Big 12 Power Rankings
It's funny how the Big 12 typically has a way of dividing itself into three tiers. It has that feel in a lot of ways again in 2010 although you could probably make the argument that there are five, or your middle tier would need to include 6 teams perhaps. Either way it feels like the league is a little more balanced this year, but still a few teams separating themselves at the top.
1. Oklahoma
How They Fared: 43-10 win over Colorado
Week Ten: Texas A&M
Previous Ranking #2
Yes they lost on the road in Columbia so you could argue they deserve to be below Mizzou, but I can't do it. Oklahoma went into what was probably the most hostile environment in the Big 12 this year and faced and amped up Mizzou team that played at a very high level. I guess I'm of the opinion that if those two squared of on a neutral field to decide the conference, Oklahoma would win that one. Still, there is no denying that the top 3 in the power poll are most likely the most legit contenders in the conference.
2. Nebraska
How They Fared: 31-17 win over Mizzou
Week Ten: Iowa State
Previous Ranking #3
Roy Helu looked like he might run for 1000 yards at the start of this one. He ended up at just 300 but either way it was an impressive game for the Huskers. They did it in a different way. Rather than ride the legs of Taylor Martinez to explosive plays all over the field, they jumped on the back of Helu and got it done early. Impressive work against the Tiger offense by the blackshirts and right now the path seems paved for a Big 12 conference title game.
3. Missouri
How They Fared: 31-17 loss to Nebraska
Week Ten: Texas Tech
Previous Ranking #1
The Tigers took a major punch early and did recover to make the game in Lincoln respectable. It's hard to play in such an emotionally charged game one week only to have to turn around and do it again. That's what this game showed. Right now I think MIzzou definitely belongs in the contender talk, one mistep by the Huskers and they have a great shot at the Big 12 title game. But for this week a drop to three based on performance.
4. Baylor
How They Fared: 30-22 victory over Texas
Week Ten: Oklahoma State
Previous Ranking #5
Tough call between the Bears and the Cowboys. This week I'm more impressed by the win in Austin than the win in Manhattan and even when I start looking at the overall w's and l's the Bears seem to be a little more versatile in the way they can play and the ways they can beat you. It'll be settled on the field this week when the Bears go to Stillwater, but if they get a win there we're seriously talking about the Bears vying for a Big 12 title game. Anyone see that coming when they were screaming for Turner Gill's head after the loss in Waco?
5. Oklahoma State
How They Fared: 24-14 win over Kansas State
Week Ten: Baylor
Previous Ranking #4
A win is a win on the road in the Big 12 but this game was ugly for the Cowboy offense. Yes they put up yardage but they weren't as crisp as they sometimes look and they weren't able to punch it in as much as they'd like. Oklahoma State is still a tough team to get a good read on, but they are certainly top half to top third in the conference at this point.
6. Iowa State
How They Fared: 28-16 win over Kansas
Week Ten: Nebraska
Previous Ranking #6
Some think this is a bad team, I think they're mediocre which puts them right in the middle of a logjam from 6-10 in the Big 12. Iowa State has three bad losses. One to Iowa, one to Utah and one to Oklahoma. All three of those teams were viewed as top 10 teams at the time Iowa State played them and all three are still in the top 25 rather easily. The Cyclones now sit with 5 wins and 4 losses. They are just one win a way from a second straight bowl game. Nebraska comes to town with revenge on their minds. What awaits ISU is a chance to show a few doubters. We'll know plenty about Iowa State after this one.
7. Kansas State
How They Fared: 24-14 loss to Oklahoma State
Week Ten: Texas
Previous Ranking #8
Back and forth, back and forth, who to put at #7? Kansas State or Texas A&M. Because I think A&M plays slightly undisciplined at times and because K-State does not, I have to give the nod to the Wildcats. Bill Snyder is a better coach than Mike Sherman, A&M probably has better talent, but head to head with what I know today I'll say K-State at #7.
8. Texas A&M
How They Fared:45-27 win over Texas Tech
Week Ten: Oklahoma
Previous Ranking #9
The Aggies seems to be getting on a bit of a role lately but it's come at the expense of two teams in a bit of transitional turmoil. Oklahoma awaits the Aggies this week so it's another chance for A&M to show they can be for real. A win against the Sooners speaks volumes, plus it puts Baylor in the Big 12 South drivers seat. Wouldn't that be interesting.
9. Texas
How They Fared: 30-22 loss to Baylor
Week Ten: Kansas State
Previous Ranking #7
Four out of the last five have ended in losses. The drop off due to the departure of Colt McCoy and Jordan Shipley appears to be HUGE. I'm sure there are other reasons, but it seems like it's leadership that this team is lacking? The Longhorns will looks to get back on track against the Wildcats in Manhattan but K-State hasn't been a kind opponent to the Longhorns in recent years so it could be a sub .500 record that awaits. Karma for the Big 12 realignment bullying?
10. Texas Tech
How They Fared: 45-27 loss to Texas A&M
Week Ten: Missouri
Previous Ranking #10
A transitional year in Lubbock. The biggest difference between the Tech transition and the Kansas transition is competitiveness. Tech tends to be more competitive in nature week to week they just lack consistency and that's acceptable in a lot of ways.
11. Colorado
How They Fared: 43-10 loss to Oklahoma
Week Ten: Kansas
Previous Ranking#11
No fault losing at Oklahoma. Toilet bowl this week against the Jayhawks and if Colorado doesn't manage a win in Lawrence that will most certainly be the nail in the coffin for Dan Hawkins.
12. Kansas
How They Fared: 28-16 loss to Iowa State
Week Ten: Colorado
Previous Ranking #12
A PULSE!! we have a pulse in Lawrence. The Jayhawks played a strong half of football, the merits of which are still debatable as the Cyclones merits are still debatable. That said the final "winnable" game on the schedule is this week against the Buffaloes. With a strong effort for four quarters Kansas has a chance, but Colorado's D should present a stiffer test than many expect.
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I'd still put KSU above ISU
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That was my initial thought also
then started wondering if maybe it should be A&M that switches places with ISU. Most of that has to do with ISU losing to KSU, and the scores vs. KU. Haven’t checked the rest of the schedule/results.
If K-State can beat Texas, I'll agree with you.
Right now, I’m undecided.
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Why undecided?
KSU beat ISU. On a neutral field.
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Because with this being a Power Ranking, I think ISU has done more lately.
That was a close game and I’m not convinced that KSU would win again if they played. If K-State can beat Texas, I’ll swing to their side.
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I see what you're saying, and I can't argue with it.
I guess I’m just not a believer in ISU. Sure, they beat Texas. But that was more Texas beating themselves. Iowa State didn’t necessarily look good in that game, but didn’t have to as long as Texas made mistakes and ISU didn’t.
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Understand its a power ranking
and can say Iowa State done more lately with win at Texas but I still think if they played again KSU wins. Plus in one common oppenent here in Big 12 play Iowa St beat KU by 12 at home and KSU won by quite a bit more on the road.
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I agree with you this week
Last week I had a problem with your putting ISU above us, but it makes sense this week, because now ISU has a better conference record. Head to head doesn’t matter when the records are different.
I do think KSU is better, but we have to beat Texas next week to prove it. Though as long as they play close, and ISU loses, I’d put KSU above them anyway.
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by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 2, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
the smart money would probably be on Oklahoma
to win the South. But I’m not that smart, so I’m saying the winner of the Baylor-OSU game this weekend goes to the Big 12 title game, especially if it’s Baylor.
by PenguinHawk on Nov 1, 2010 3:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
CU is our bowl game.
Let’s hope we fair better than USC’s “bowl game” against Oregon.
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
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OT: How do you watch KU bball games that aren’t nationally televised in Denver? Do satellites pick up Jayhawk TV or are you relegated to getting an online feed? Thanks dude.
by I need more Esteban on Nov 1, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions
there will definitely be online feeds available...
but I’ve also got a sports package w/DirecTV that really picks up almost every game as is. When I put an open thread up for games, I usually try to put a link for a place to find it online.
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Sagarin's rankings for the Big 12
Again, for those interested – jives with Denver’s bunched top 3, middle pack, and bottom feeders (though I might contend there’s a fourth tier reserved for KU).
6 Missouri
8 Oklahoma
9 Nebraska
24 Oklahoma State
30 Texas A&M
36 Baylor
43 Kansas State
45 Texas
61 Texas Tech
69 Colorado
70 Iowa State
160 Kansas
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Nov 1, 2010 4:03 PM CDT reply actions
40 FCS teams higher than us? Ouch.
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Ouch is right
I should have mentioned that this is Sagarin’s ranking based on Win Margin (slightly different that his W/L Only or the Combined rankings)
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc10.htm
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Nov 1, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Though that ranking is not a fan of Iowa State.
Their stat profile and rough margins must be killing them.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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We sort of discount their big losses to NU and OU
but this ranking doesn’t. 68-27 and 52-0 is the reason they’re 11th, I would guess. Sagarin’s BCS/ELO_CHESS/Win-Loss-Only ranking, which ignores the score, has ISU at #25. The Combined ranking is #45, which seems about right – depending on how much credence we should give to the win margin in a blowout.
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Nov 1, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
and which one is used in the BCS?
The one that has them at 25.
I don't know why people aren't fans of the BCS
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Yes, and there's a very easy solution to this,
which is allow the BCS formulas (or formulae, if you’d rather) to use Win Margin, but only up to a certain amount (say, winning by 20 points). That way a two-score win counts more than a 3 point win, but teams aren’t encouraged to run up the score to alter the computer results.
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Nov 1, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Missouri ahead of Nebraska?!?!?!
OUTRAGE!!!!!!
by WillieWannabe on Nov 1, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
You'll have to take it up with
the computers
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Nov 1, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions

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