Octagon of Doom?
by Owen on Jan 29, 2010 10:03 AM CST
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PrintWell, it is supposed to be a hate filled rivalry. I guess I'll take my jabs now, but please don't take this too seriously. All due respect to the people of Kansas State, I think you have a good team, a good coach and maybe one day you will truly earn the claim of playing in "the OCTAGON of DOOOOOOOOMMM." I'll be here to eat crow on Sunday if necessary, best of luck and glad to have a rival to the west again.
Are you looking for a way to identify yourself? Something that makes you unique from others out there? How about a nickname that points out a quality, skill or ability that only you can lay claim to? If that's what you're after, don't approach Kansas State University for advice.
Several seasons ago, with the hiring of Bob Huggins the Kansas State fanbase sought to take back their arena. An arena that many view as just another arena. They definitely brought back a bit of the atmosphere. There's even that guy with floor seats on the far left if viewing on TV that barks at EVERY SINGLE CALL(seriously, look for this guy). The students came back, people bought tickets and they've started to win a few games.
Now apparently the only thing missing was a nickname. Kansas State students and fans thought long and hard, what can we call our arena? Surely we deserve a name after all the history we've witnessed in this building...our arena...our arena with a renewed sense of hope. An arena that now imposes just a little bit of fear in it's opponents. An arena that must have one of the best home court advantages in the Big 12. I've got it!!! The Octagon of DOOM!!!
What's that...what's that you say...there are others? Others in the same conference with better home court records? Others in the conference that play in an even more dooming octagon? SHOCKING!!! I don't know, I'd say the Phog has earned it's name. When you're homecourt record is below such basketball powerhouses as Nebraska and Texas Tech, it might be good to wait just a little longer before declaring doom on the world. Don't let technically right and unbiased facts get in the way. I think for now, I'll just call it the Octagon.
- OU at Lloyd Noble 440-73 (.858)
- Kansas in Allen Fieldhouse 632-106 (.856)
- Texas at Erwin Center 376-91 (.805)
- Missouri in Paige Sports Arena 71-18 (.798) (It's rivalry week)
- OSU at Gallagher Iba Arena 686-193 (.780)
- Nebraska in Devaney Center 399-125 (.761)
- Tech at United Spirit 121-41 (.747)
- Iowa State in Hilton Coliseum 422-149 (.739)
- Kansas State in Bramlage 245-88 (.736) (Granted almost a quarter of the losses are to KANSAS)
- A&M at Reed Center 124-53 (.701)
- Colorado in Coors Event Center 301-148 (.670)
- Baylor in the Ferrell Center 195-128 (.604)
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Turner Gill is introduced to the Kansas Athletic dept:
Gill, I'm Bill and this is Phil. Gill, I'm Phil and this is Jill. Gill, I'm Jill, you know Bill, Phil...
Hopefully my hint in the fanshot...
didn’t get your hopes up too much. I probably had you thinking football commits when it was just a jab at the Octagon.
52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
It did actually...
but that’s okay, I thought, in order of hoping:
1) Tevin Jackson decomitted from Texas and is coming to KU
or
2) Denver’s going to have something on the OoD
Either way is good, but yeah, me likey football.
Turner Gill is introduced to the Kansas Athletic dept:
Gill, I'm Bill and this is Phil. Gill, I'm Phil and this is Jill. Gill, I'm Jill, you know Bill, Phil...
I've heard of 4 so far...
2 are our recent commitments. 1 is an OT Fabbians Ebbelle and then a 4th is a DB out of the Houston area and that’s all for now.
52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
I should get a confirmation on any other visitors here very shortly...
52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
not too many spots left at this point...
anyway and most guys have made their choices…just a wrap up final push weekend as needed.
Brandon Bourbon did cancel his Notre Dame visit. Looking like us or Stanford on that one. I think we’ve got a pretty good shot.
52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Seriously, this is almost as bad
as Sam Mellinger’s push to start calling Kauffman Stadium the “Kougar”
K – for Kauffman
and
Cougar since its an older stadium that has had a facelift and is now appealing again to fans, presumably younger fans since it has all those new-fangled amenities.
Lame. Definitely in the same discussion as the OoD.
OT – Speaking of Ood, do we have any Dr. Who fans here?
Turner Gill is introduced to the Kansas Athletic dept:
Gill, I'm Bill and this is Phil. Gill, I'm Phil and this is Jill. Gill, I'm Jill, you know Bill, Phil...
Oh come on now...
this is MUCH worse than the Kougar. That’s at least thought out with a line of reason…and who among us doesn’t love to encounter a drunken cougar? That said, I won’t be referring the K as the Kougar anytime soon, but it’s a lot less ridiculous than the Octagon of Doom.
by hiphopopotamus on Jan 29, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
The Octagon of Doom
(I think) does have a little bit of meaning and reason.
1. If you look at the actual building itself – it’s actually an octagon.
2. Due to the more physical level of play (increase amount of fouls that you’ve already documented), people jokingly compared it to a MMA match – which again takes place in an octagon.
Where did the Doom come from? Beats me. I think it’s a little corny and would have been perfectly OK with it just being called “The Octagon.” I’m guessing whoever coined it wasn’t being too creative.
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
actually...
the MMA reference and the physical play is about the best reasoning I’ve heard for this so far.
52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
The Octagon
That sounds infinitely more acceptable than throwing the Doom part in there. It’s still distinctive, but not corny.
I agree
I’m just hoping the “doom” doesn’t stick….
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
Glad to hear that...
…mostly becuase it’s exactly what I suggested over at OBK as well. But glad to know that this isn’t being fully embraced by everyone.
by hiphopopotamus on Jan 29, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Disagrees:
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 29, 2010 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
Obscure?
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 29, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
Personally,
I’m still kind of partial to Allen Field House West. Time to reclaim that.
Reclaim?
It’s still 25 out of 26. I’m not willing to concede that we’ve lost it….
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Jan 29, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
Good point.
Guess what I meant is that you used to even hear announcers saying AFH West. Even if it was only jokingly. God help all of us if we hear Octagon of Doom tomorrow.
I bet it is said 20 times before the game even starts tomorrow night.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
You're probably right
But, as was discussed yesterday, it’s nice that it has some hype and is even being promoted. Makes it more fun.
Indeed....
much better when the meaning of the game comes from quality instead of just geography.
by hiphopopotamus on Jan 29, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
When K-State became relevant again
and their fans decided to start attending basketball games. So like, a couple weeks ago?
by knayte on Jan 29, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
What I think its funny about the Octagon of Doom BS
Is that people I know who are KSU fans/alums etc HATE Bramledge. All they talk about is how Ahearn was loud and awesome and how Bramledge sucks, you’re too fare from the court etc.
fare?
is the name of your favorite drinking establishment called Ye Old Pube?
j/k of course…
Just saw an opportunity to get an old-school Family Guy reference in there.
Turner Gill is introduced to the Kansas Athletic dept:
Gill, I'm Bill and this is Phil. Gill, I'm Phil and this is Jill. Gill, I'm Jill, you know Bill, Phil...
FAR
Damn I make one typo and labba is all over my ass three minutes later. Thanks a lot DICK tracy
by Andrew Clark on Jan 29, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
Also was surprised to see Nebraska ahead of ISU
Nebraska must loose every single road game they ever play ever
loose?
srsly man, ur slipping.
Turner Gill is introduced to the Kansas Athletic dept:
Gill, I'm Bill and this is Phil. Gill, I'm Phil and this is Jill. Gill, I'm Jill, you know Bill, Phil...
At work my mind is hella fried
Getting proposals out all day, making databases and now I’m trying to make electronic signatures for everyone. As a result, me no longer speaka well
by Andrew Clark on Jan 29, 2010 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
The term was actually first mentioned
by a KSU message boarder (A legend in our circles :-)) in early 2007. It was mainly meant to just have fun with. As time went on, it got bigger and bigger. Soon “DOOM” signs were showing up at games. Then this year, a KSU fan ran into Gottlieb before one of our games and mentioned OoD. Then Gottlieb named dropped it during a telecast and ESPN ran with it. Kinda funny to see how it started as a running joke to being put on promos for ESPN.
I can see how an opposing fanbase would not like it. But i guess that makes it all the more better :-)
Well thanks for....
giving us the full story. I guess I always assumed it was probably an inside joke that had more recently surfaced on the national stage. I’m sure with time and persistence…opposing fans will embrace it a little as well.
52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
There’s even that guy with floor seats on the far left if viewing on TV that barks at EVERY SINGLE CALL.
This guys is the biggest douche I’ve ever seen. He seems to think that he is a coach or something and if I were a K-State administrator I would not let him sit on the front row and embarrass my fan base.
by I need more Esteban on Jan 29, 2010 12:07 PM CST reply actions
barks at EVERY SINGLE CALL.
This is normal in Manhattan though.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
woof.
Turner Gill is introduced to the Kansas Athletic dept:
Gill, I'm Bill and this is Phil. Gill, I'm Phil and this is Jill. Gill, I'm Jill, you know Bill, Phil...
"Octagon" is too short
I think it is honorable that the kitties in Manhattan have started to take interest in BB again, and that the teams have given them half a reason to be optimistic.
I propose that, in honor of their optimistic students – especially the blogger that ragged on Denver yesterday, we call it the “Octagon of Optimism”. That’s OO, for short.
Seems appropriate with KU coming in with our 25-1 record in AFH-W. Gotta love that even NU has a better home court record.
by dagger108 on Jan 29, 2010 1:31 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
and I will point out
that KSU is 43-6 (87%) at home since the nickname was born. Nothing compared to the 54-0 streak or w/e KU is on right now. But that’s splitting hairs.
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If I knew how to put the picture in here, I’d do it. You’ll have to settle for the link.
Operation 39-1 is a go. Proceed to target.
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Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "In the game of chess you can never let your opponent see your pieces"
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 29, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Man I hope we win saturday
This picture will be my profile pic for the next week
by Andrew Clark on Jan 29, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
want to rec the link, but you lose points for not knowing how to use the tree button.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Well, considering it took you tries to I like them just fine.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
I’m calling it the Octagon of Dumb myself.
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 29, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
So when the hell do we catch Oklahoma? It’s embarrassing to not be #1 on this list—even if we’ve played a lot more home games in our place than they have in theirs.
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 29, 2010 2:40 PM CST reply actions
Obviously we catch/pass them soon.
Since we have so many more games, our overall percentage can’t really shift that much. The way they’ve played all year they are def going to drop some more home games, I’d argue its impossible we lose more than two at the max max.
How about the Octagon of . . .
ineptitude
failure
rednecks
sheep
sadness
humor
incompetence
strife
faith (look at definition #2)
bricks
laughter
suffering
abuse
Errata: TAMU is Reed Arena, not Center; Catching OU
“Center” is what they call that ugly tsip thing in Austin.
Re: Catching OU:
Both OU and KU have 5 home games left this season.
It is true that changes to KU’s % come harder because of the large # of games already played in AFH.
BUT — OU’s significantly smaller number of games played in Lloyd Noble means that its % fluctuates more widely with each win and loss than ours does.
So, assuming that we hold court in AFH and OU loses just 1 of its remaining home games this season, we get:
KU 637-106, .8573.
OU 444- 71, .8571.
Welcome to the site Lieutenant Colonel
52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
And thanks for the math! Definitely not my strong suit…
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 29, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
Well looks like we just got the Kiss of DOOM
Bilas favors the Hawks to squeak it out in the Octagon Doom (heheh, just can’t say that with a straight face)
by MichiganJayHawk on Jan 29, 2010 4:04 PM CST reply actions
I have to say.
whether the nickname is justified or not it sounds pretty badass.
Great Oden's Raven I love Mike "The Predator" Dixon!
really? I think the Octagon sounds much better than Octagon of Doom.
Throwing “doom” in there is very cheesy.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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