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Catching up to Carolina in all-time wins

Front paged because the people have spoken and the race to 2000 is on...Denver

Considering North Carolina's faltering season, the race to 2000 victories, and an insurgent Big XII outside of KU and UT, I thought I'd take a look at reasonable scenarios where KU could overtake UNC for 2nd in all-time wins.  (Clearly, the easiest way for us to overtake Kentucky will be when at least one season is forfeited because of dirty tricks).

As it stands before the Mizzou game, KU has 1,988 all-time wins.  North Carolina sits at 1,996 career wins.  It would take a collapse of breathtaking proportions for KU to win 12 games before UNC wins four, but it might be close.

Star-divide

I'm going to lay out what I believe to be reasonable scenarios:

KU:

MU-W

@KSU-?

@CU-W

NU-W

@UT-?

ISU-W

@TAMU-W

CU-W

OU-W

@OSU-W

KSU-W

@MU-?

That leaves KU with a record of 27-1 with possible losses at Texas, K-State and Mizzou.  That adds nine games to KU's all-time total, putting us at 1,997.  If we win at both K-State and Texas and don't have any surprising losses, KU will be looking for all-time win 2,000 @ Mizzou the last game of the regular season.

North Carolina, however, is in an entirely different situation.  The Tarheels currently sit at 12-7, with losses to Syracuse, Kentucky, Texas, Charleston, Clemson, Georgia Tech and Wake Forest.

Here's how the rest of their season looks:

@NCSU-W

UVa-W

@VTech-L

@MD-L

Duke-L

NCSU-W

@GTech-L

@BC-W

FSU-W

@Wake-L

Miami-W

@Duke-L

I'm giving Carolina the benefit of the doubt for home games, with the exception of Duke.  Nonetheless, a reasonable estimation puts Carolina ending the season at 18-13 and likely not qualifying for the NCAA tournament.  That 6-6 record to end the season puts Carolina at 2,002 all-time wins.

So, at the end of the regular season, KU will likely be 2 or 3 games behind North Carolina for all-time wins.  If Carolina wins one and then loses in the ACC tournament, they head to the NITs with 2,003 wins.  For argument's sake, let's say that KU loses in Manhattan and wins in Austin, finishing the regular season with 1,999 wins.  If KU wins the Big XII tournament, they head to the NCAAs as a #1 seed with 2,002 career wins, just one shy of North Carolina.

If both teams play to form, it's likely KU will overtake North Carolina for 2nd on the all-time wins list with a win in the Sweet Sixteen.

And, as a homer of EPIC proportions, I predict that North Carolina will finish the 2009-2010 season with 2,004 all-time wins, after losing in the second round of the ACC tournament and winning one game in the NITs.

KU, on the other hand, will finish the 2009-2010 regular season at 29-2 (1,999 career wins), pick up the 2,000th win in the first round of the Big XII tournament, head to the NCAAs at 2,002 wins, and finish the season with a national championship and 2,008 career wins.

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Not even going to check the math

or worry about the fact that I believe NC will get into the tourney (8 or 9 seed). I still love this post and think it is genius.

by I need more Esteban on Jan 25, 2010 1:11 PM CST reply actions  

As much as I dislike UNC...

…I can’t begin to fathom an NCAA tourney without them in it somwhere. Wow.

Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...

by tequilaprophet on Jan 25, 2010 1:15 PM CST reply actions  

well, they will be...

…if you count Roy with a Jayhawk sticker.

by PDXJayhawk on Jan 25, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I have to say...

I’m surprised by the Carolina struggles to the extent that they’ve occurred. It’s actually about what I expected us to go through last year and then we ended up doing pretty well. Another example that everything worked out for the better in the end as far as our coach goes?

52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jan 25, 2010 1:25 PM CST reply actions  

agreed

They have been hit pretty hard by injuries, but we lost more after the ’08 season, in my opinion.

I have the worst memory of Roy leaving…I was working in North Carolina at the time, and my office-mates were pretty obnoxious.

by PDXJayhawk on Jan 25, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

that was the first time my parents let me swear

 I was in 9th grade when he left, and I was piiiiiiisssed

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by fetch9 on Jan 25, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

As good a coaching transition

as we could hope for. Roy really seemed to be getting tired of the rigors of recruiting and if the NC job had not opened up, it would not have surprised me if he had retired within another couple of years.

Self left a good job at Illinois(with players that went to the NCAA championship game later) to come here, and turned down his alma mater to stay here. He clearly believes this is the best job in the country for him. Worked out great for both coaches really. Roy has been reenergized by going home and Self brought us a National Championship and the probability of another one or two if he finishes his career here.

by hunter s. royal on Jan 25, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I've never thought of it that way...

but I think you might be right that both Kansas and Roy Williams benefited tremendously from the move.

and as a reply to DCJayhawk and his “where was I” memory…I can recall being on campus and learning the news. I don’t remember if the sun came out or not over the next few days but it sure seemed gray.

52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jan 25, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I had it bad

But man, I don’t if I could have dealt with being on campus.

by PDXJayhawk on Jan 25, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Lets not forget too

How damaging that title game loss may have been for Roy at KU. He would have then been in Lawrence for what, 15 years with no title (and two title game appearances, one or two additional final four appearances, etc). Had the UNC job not opened up, how much of an impact would that have left on his psyche, drive, etc (maybe he goes even harder, maybe he says screw it, who knows).

Compare that situation to Self, who wins a title in his 5th year and is now pretty much playing with house money for a while. Interesting comparison IMHO

by Andrew Clark on Jan 25, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Definitely.

Also, Sherron missed quite a few games his first couple of years, but stayed healthy last year. That was huge.

by hunter s. royal on Jan 25, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Cool post DC

I still don’t know what to make of UNC, and the ACC as a whole is pretty nutts. I could see UNC getting hot and rattling off some games, going .500 the rest of the way, or just getting wiped clean. If we have the type of season we expect and UNC keeps losing, we will definitely narrow the gap and it will almost be a tossup from then on out

by Andrew Clark on Jan 25, 2010 1:44 PM CST reply actions  

very true

I’d been trying not to pay attention to the ACC since it’s crammed down my throat every day, but looking at the overall and conference records, any of these three scenarios seem possible:

I could see UNC getting hot and rattling off some games, going .500 the rest of the way, or just getting wiped clean.

And how freaking hilarious would it be if we DID get to 2,000 before them? The Tarheel board would go into full meltdown.

by PDXJayhawk on Jan 25, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

According to the latest Bracketology

We will be playing UNC in the second round of the tournament. I don’t care how bad their season has been, I don’t like that at all. Glad there’s still tons of games to play so that something might shake that projection up a little.

by knayte on Jan 26, 2010 11:55 AM CST reply actions  

Why not?

I didn’t mind it in 2008, won’t mind it this year either.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

by Warden11 on Jan 26, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

and Esteban is VERY sure of that

Which is why he posted twice! :)

Seriously, though, I don’t care if UNC is playing all walk-ons, I get nervous playing them. Avenging that loss is probably going to be high in the minds of those playing the game.

That being said, if we’re forced to play them and own them again, I’ll be thrilled. As much as I’ve “moved on” from Roy leaving the way he did, I thoroughly enjoy pounding UNC.

Although, frankly, I get those same jittery feelings anytime we play any of the bluebloods.

By the way, what do you think about Syracuse? I would NOT be surprised at all if we ended up playing them in the FF or NC games.

by PDXJayhawk on Jan 26, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

That would be sweet.

How about beating UNC, Syracuse in the Final 4, and then Calipari in the championship? Best tournament ever.

by knayte on Jan 26, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Won't see kentucky in the final game

They are good, but not that good. They were getting love because they were the last undefeated team. This is a result of playing almost no one. With tonight’s loss they are 2-0 against the RPI top fifty and 5-1 against the top 100. Watch them drop down in the polls on Monday. They are an elite eight team, final four if they are lucky (until that the season is vacated by the NCAA).

Of course now the K-State game is even bigger. #1 ranking on the line.

by bt01 on Jan 26, 2010 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I don’t know about beating them to 2,000, but passing them on the all-time wins list would be awesome and is doable. When they eventually wipe out all of Cal’s wins at UK, we could be looking at the top of the mountain!

"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 26, 2010 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

quick update

So UNC lost to UVa. at home, a game I credited them with winning in my estimate, and they beat NC State as expected.

UNC: 1997
KU: 1990

Is it possible UNC could run off three more losses in a row (@VTech, @MD and Duke at home)? I find it hard to believe UNC will lose four in a row, but their next four games will be incredibly difficult.

If UNC plays to form, they finish the regular season with 2,001 wins. But neither home game against the state of Florida is a gimme (FSU and Miami both sit at 16-5). If they lose both, they end the regular season at 1,999 wins.

Beat Texas, and with a little luck, KU surpasses UNC for all-time wins in the regular season at beats them to 2,000 wins.

Pretty incredible considering where things stood at the beginning of the season.

by PDXJayhawk on Feb 1, 2010 6:07 AM CST reply actions  

Things aren't so good in Carolina Blue right now

Check this out from the front page of ESPN.com:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4876609

Money quote from Roy Williams:

“How can you go any lower? How can it be any worse than it is right now?”

Jeeze Roy- get some perspective. People in the world have real problems. Watch a video on Haiti or something.

"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 1, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Hahahaha

Another great quote:

“We’ve got a lot of problems, and staying in front of the basketball has been one from Day 1 with this team,” Williams said after Sunday’s game as he teared up in frustration, according to The Observer. “And I really thought we could be a good defensive team, and we haven’t shown that. Two or three games I thought we were really good defensively. Last game, I thought we were really good defensively … but we’re not really good defensively on a consistent basis.”

Any other Jayhawk fans getting flashbacks right now? Ahhh, the good old days…

"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 1, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey Roy,

YOU WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP LAST YEAR! Quit whining. I’m surprised they’re having this bad of a year, but their guard play is not very good, which negates the effect of their 97 big guys. This looks like a replay of KU’s 1989 year, when we weren’t very good as we transitioned from Larry Brown to Roy and teams got some revenge from past thumpings. They do have some incredible recruits coming next year, so ACC teams better get them while they can.

by hunter s. royal on Feb 1, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Kentucky update

Kentucky sits at 2,008 all-time wins. It’s impossible to beat them for the wins record (best case scenario, KU ends the season with 2,008 wins). But, assuming they win out except for @Tennessee and @Vandy, they’ll sit at 2,016 wins at the end of the season, 2,019 if they win the conference tournament. I think they’ll lose in the Elite Eight, leaving them at 2,022 all-time wins.

by PDXJayhawk on Feb 1, 2010 6:12 AM CST reply actions  

never, never!!!!!

no matter how hard the Gayhawks try, they will never, never, never be what kentucky is in the basketball world. maybe KU “invented” basketball but Kentucky perfected it. talk all the trash you like if it makes you feel better. But the truth hurts, doesn’t it? Kentucky had a bad season when someone there got a wild hair up their A@% and decided to hire that big12 douche billy gillespie as head coach. we shoulda known better than to get some has been from the big12. we would have reached 2000 wins last year. UK-7 titles / KU-3 titles. enough said!!

by jbailey555 on Feb 1, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty sure we have

(at least) a three game winning streak against you head to head. A home and home in ‘04/’05-ish and then the tourney win in ‘07(?) without looking it up. The years may be off, but we own you recently. We’d love to get you in another home and home series and show you who’s the boss. Maybe we’ll get you in the tourney and do you like we did Carolina two years ago.

What has Kentucky done lately?

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Feb 1, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Gayhawks? Wow

I’d bet money you are a virgin

by Andrew Clark on Feb 1, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

You'd lose that bet...

He fucks his sister

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Feb 22, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey tell your sister I say hi

and your daughter while you’re at it. Oh wait, you’ll only have to tell one person.

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by fetch9 on Feb 2, 2010 12:49 AM CST up reply actions  

whatever

K WHO? Kentucky has already been there. I’m so tired of hearing about the Jayhawks. who has ku played this year? NO RANKED TEAMS except k-state. kentucky has beat 3 top 25 teams, they have 7 National Titles. KU’s not even half way there. UK has more wins, more ncaa tourney wins and more ncaa tourney appearances. There’s a great big difference between a Dynasty and a Wannabe.

by jbailey555 on Feb 1, 2010 6:44 PM CST reply actions  

Don't do it, guys....

Do. Not. Do. It.

Don’t mention the fact that without Kansas, Kentucky doesn’t exist in the capacity that it does (coughwemadeRuppcough)

No more need be said here.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Feb 1, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

facts are facts.

if KU was worth a sh@% why didn’t Adolph stay? facts are facts. there were other great coaches. Joe Hall, Rick Pitino, and Tubby was a gliche that inherited Rick’s program. KU, mathmatically speaking, would have to go to another championship and LOSE before thery were even with UK.

by jbailey555 on Feb 1, 2010 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

You must be the guy that bought that

Back at #1 shirt and they won’t give you your money back. I’d be bitter, too.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Feb 1, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Rupp left

Because there was no room? Phog Allen was the head coach from when Rupp was there until the fifties. Without the coach that learned at the knees of the coach who invented the game and the coach who invented the modern game, there wouldn’t be much of a Kentucky “program.”

by PDXJayhawk on Feb 2, 2010 6:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Might want to check your facts...

Kansas has beaten Temple, Baylor and Kansas State all ranked teams when they played and still are. Oh…and what’s that I hear, Cornell slipped in at #25 today in the ESPN Poll? Interesting that’s 4 teams Kansas has beaten this year that are currently in the top 25 of one poll or another. So your statement that Kansas has played “NO RANKED TEAMS except K-State” is completely ignorant.

Furthermore, my assumption is that your three “top 25 wins” come against UNC, UConn and Vandy. Hats of for the Vandy win, that one looks good. UNC and UConn however aren’t even in the “others receiving votes” category anymore my friend. That little accomplishment is looking less and less impressive as both of those teams are proving to be a farce this year. Perhaps a small example of teams getting credit for name alone and not what they’ve accomplished today. Sounds familiar for some reason.

52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Feb 1, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

You aren't inferring that

Kentucky is getting publicity for just being Kentucky, are you now, Denver? That would be awfully presumptuous of you.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Feb 1, 2010 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

And that's without mentioning the SOS

I believe KenPom lists KU at 38th (145th non-con) and UK at 85th (171st non-con).

The numbers would appear to have different opinion of who has played who.

by dagger108 on Feb 8, 2010 4:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I would like to further add to this comment...

A&M and Texas on the road. Both ranked teams. Furthermore, #1 in RPI = Kansas, #20 strength of schedule = Kansas.

Kentucky #60 in RPI, Strength of Schedule #36…just sayin.

and yes it all gets settled on the court, but Kentucky fan who probably isn’t listening anyway…your comment is dumb.

52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Feb 22, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I've got Kentucky

at #3 in the RPI. Where are you getting 60 from? Their SOS is much worse than KU, but I’m not sure where you got their RPI at 60 from?

Operation 39-1 is a go. Proceed to target.

by Bensa on Feb 22, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

you are correct...

they are #3…I accidentally snagged an opponents RPI instead. Damnit!!!

52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Feb 22, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Ummmm...

If you’re so tired of hearing about the Jayhawks, why did you come to Rock Chalk Talk, a website that describes itself with this:


Here it is, your unofficial home for the Kansas Jayhawks. We cover Jayhawk Basketball. We cover Jayhawk Football. We cover Jayhawk Baseball. All unofficially, of course.

I know you’re from Kentucky and aren’t too bright and all, but how could you not figure out that you would hear about the Jayhawks on a Jayhawk website?

Here’s hoping John Wall doesn’t become a team cancer and destroy your season!

"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 2, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I think

you forgot the sarcasm font

Here's hoping John Wall doesn't become a team cancer and destroy your season!

Operation 39-1 is a go. Proceed to target.

by Bensa on Feb 2, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

BECOME a team cancer?

Didn’t he already take the ACT’s/SAT’s? Seems like just a matter of time to me.

UK – first team to 2000 wins, twice.

by dagger108 on Feb 8, 2010 4:35 AM CST up reply actions  

jbailey555

has one of the more hilarious blogging histories i have seen:

Posted so tired of KU!! on A Sea Of Blue – 02/01/10 8:13 PM EST

 Joined A Sea Of Blue – 02/01/10 8:04 PM EST

 Commented facts are facts. on Catching up to Carolina in all-time wins on Rock Chalk Talk – 02/01/10 7:58 PM EST (3 replies)

 Commented never, never!!!!! on Catching up to Carolina in all-time wins on Rock Chalk Talk – 02/01/10 7:53 PM EST (3 replies)

 Commented whatever on Catching up to Carolina in all-time wins on Rock Chalk Talk – 02/01/10 7:44 PM EST (3 replies)

 Joined Rock Chalk Talk – 02/01/10 7:39 PM EST

The punchline is what he posted on A Sea of Blue after coming here and posting the, ahem, opinionated and gramatically offensive comments above:

I unfortunately live in the middle of KU country NE kansas due to prior military. UK fan since 5 years old. there are so many uneducated basketball fans there and they don’t realize the history and dynatsy of kentucky. it’s like arguing with a retarded brick wall. I get tired of being told Adolph Rupp is from kansas. I get tired of hearing about their measley 3 titles. and after today’s new rankings, how UK hasn’t play “anybody” all year. Who the hell has KU played that was ranked? besides and OT win at k-state. they don’t look like #1 to me. I’d been more content to see Syracuse bumped up than KU. musta made a deal with the devil. just like our big12 mistake named Billy G. HELP!!!!!

So, basically he joined SB nation to babble like an idiot on this thread and then go out in a ball of flames on his own website. There is no arguing with idiots, ladies and gentlemen. Facts are facts.

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Feb 2, 2010 1:36 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Even funnier?

All of the replies on the Kentucky board are supportive….

by PDXJayhawk on Feb 3, 2010 6:24 AM CST up reply actions  

What will be really funny

is the impending Calipari implosion.

I realize that UK has a rivalry without IU, but it’s amazing that the kitties are trying to out do the hoosiers. How long did Sampson last?

by dagger108 on Feb 8, 2010 4:41 AM CST up reply actions  

20 days later

And he has not been heard from since…

by PDXJayhawk on Feb 22, 2010 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Update- 2/11/10

Kansas is now at 1993 wins. North Carolina is at 1997, by my count.

So far this year, KU has picked up 10 wins on the Tar Heels. Assuming UNC wins on Saturday, can they get two more wins this regular season to get to 2,000? Or will it come in the ACC tournament/ NIT?

While it’s a meaningless milestone, suddenly this is turning into a great pennant race!

"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 10, 2010 11:57 PM CST reply actions  

Oh yeah, rec this please!

Let’s get this back on the front page so we can enjoy the race!

"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 10, 2010 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

KU at 1994, Heels at 1998, each with 6 regular season games to go

BLUF: KU has an outside chance of beating UNC to 2000 on the last day of the season.

REMAINING 6 GAMES FOR KU (need 6 Ws for 2000)
Mon. Feb. 15 @Texas A&M*
Sat. Feb. 20 COLORADO+
Mon. Feb. 22 OKLAHOMA+!
Sat. Feb. 27 @Oklahoma State*
Wed. Mar. 03 KANSAS STATE*
Sat. Mar. 06 @Missouri 1pm CT*
+Trap games
*Most likely remaining chances for KU to lose
!Clinch at least a share of a 6th straight conference title AT HOME if win next 3 games.

REMAINING 6 GAMES FOR TARRED HEELS (need 2 Ws for 2000)
Tue. Feb. 16 @Georgia Tech
Sat. Feb. 20 @Boston College
Wed. Feb. 24 FLORIDA STATE*
Sat. Feb. 27 @Wake Forest
Tue. Mar. 02 MIAMI*
Sat. Mar. 06 @Duke 8pm CT
*home games, best chance of tarred heels wins

The odds are against KU beating the tarred heels to 2000, as the heels have two home games left (one of those against lowly Miami) and are playing ever more lowly BC in Boston on Saturday. Should the tarred heels only win 1 of their remaining games before their night time season finale at Duke, KU could beat them to 2000 by running the table and beating Missouri earlier that same day.

"So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late."

by LTCUSARet on Feb 15, 2010 4:19 AM CST reply actions  

well well well

KU has added two wins since your post, and UNC has lost two, including the unexpected loss to BC yesterday.


KU: 1996

UNC: 1998

With four games to go, if UNC plays to form, losing to Wake and Duke and then is upset at home by either Florida State or Miami, they’ll finish the regular season with 1,999 wins.

And, at 14-13 right now, if they do indeed go 2-2, they’ll finish the season at 16-15 and will need a win in the ACC tournament to qualify for the NIT.

If they go 2-2 and NC-State goes 0-3, they’ll be the #11 seed in the ACC tournament, likely playing Florida State in the first round. If, however, they go 1-3 and NC-State goes 2-1 in their remaining games (@Miami, @VTech, BC) (or 2-2 and NC-State goes 3-0), UNC will be the 12 seed and likely face Clemson in the 1st round of the tournament.

With the way this team is playing, we could possibly now beat them to 2,000 AND have them end the season with a 1st Round loss in the ACC tournament, finishing the season with 1,999 wins.

by PDXJayhawk on Feb 21, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

REC THIS PLEASE

Let’s get it back up to the front page as we come down to the wire!

"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 22, 2010 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

I would

but I wrote the darn thing.

And I don’t have time to write another one.

by PDXJayhawk on Feb 22, 2010 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

wasn't Kendall Gill...

a force in NBA Jam?

52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Feb 22, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

he was.

And Cuttino Mobley was unstoppable from behind the arc. That bastard.

by PDXJayhawk on Feb 22, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw something about a wii version...

so glad I just bought a wii. Mario Bros. and Punch out sold me.

52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Feb 22, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I love Madden on the Wii

It’s a lot of fun to actually play the games.

Sports Resort is also a lot of fun, with basketball and sword fighting.

by PDXJayhawk on Feb 22, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Also, completly missed the flame war above when it happened

a shame really. Sometimes it’s fun to feed the trolls.

Me no likey T2.

by labbadabba on Feb 22, 2010 4:02 PM CST reply actions  

That guy was something else

What a douche.

Operation 39-1 is a go. Proceed to target.

by Bensa on Feb 22, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

As of Monday, February 22, 2010:

Kansas: 1,996 wins
North Carolina: 1,998 wins

Kansas Remaining Schedule:

1. Oklahoma
2. @ Okie Light
3. #6 KSU
4. @Misery

North Carolina Remaining Schedule:

1. Florida State
2. @ Wake
3. Miami
4. @ #5 Duke

Roy Williams’ Current Mood:

Constipated.

"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 22, 2010 5:08 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I haven't followed the ACC much...

what are the likely wins on that list for UNC?

52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Feb 22, 2010 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

From what I’ve heard, they’ve got a decent shot at the home games, and basically no shot at the roadies. It’s hard to tell, though- UNC has been downright awful this year. 0-4 isn’t totally out of the question, IMO. As Kansas fans know well, even in a down year, teams always bring their “A” games for the traditional powerhouses.

"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 22, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

before BC

So would that be BBC???

But anyway, before UNC lost to BC, I thought they had a good shot of winning their two home games (Florida State and Miami). Now, I think there’s a decent chance they lose one or both.

by PDXJayhawk on Feb 22, 2010 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Kenpom

% chance of winning
Wed Feb 24 (16) Florida St. L, 70-68 73 41% Home
Sat Feb 27 (37) Wake Forest L, 78-71 76 24% Away
Tue Mar 2 (55) Miami FL W, 75-71 71 63% Home
Sat Mar 6 (1) Duke L, 85-66 72 5% Away

Only one down after tonight’s win vs. OU

by bt01 on Feb 22, 2010 11:56 PM CST up reply actions  

rec'd for
constipated

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Feb 22, 2010 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW

Here’s an interesting link on the race to 1,000 wins, which was actually between Kentucky, Kansas, and Oregon State (?). Apparently KU led 997-995, but then went on a losing streak.

http://bigbluehistory.net/bb/dateline.html#raceto1000

"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 22, 2010 5:19 PM CST reply actions  

another blow-out

So, with UNC giving up tonight, they are 14-14 with three games left and 1,998 total wins.

Barring the extremely unlikely, UNC will finish the regular season 15-16 at best. They will almost definitely end up as the 12 seed in the ACC tournament. Which means that, even if they were to win the first game of the tournament, getting them to 2,000 wins, they would have to play Duke in round two.

All of that being said, i would not be surprised at all if UNC goose-egged the remainder of the season, finishing up 14-17, 14-18 after losing in the first round of the conference tournament.

If Kansas runs the table, we finish the season with 2,0009 total wins and around a 10 game lead on North Carolina. That’s pretty crazy to think about considering we were down by around 14 games at the beginning of the season.

by PDXJayhawk on Feb 24, 2010 8:52 PM CST reply actions  

Roy Williams' Current Mood:

Perplexed

"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 24, 2010 11:08 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Maybe it should be:

Treasonous?

Is ’Ol Roy still playing for Kansas?

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Feb 24, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude.

Don’t you know that suggestions like this are, like, a thousand times worse than Haiti + the AIDS epidemic + 9/11 for Roy Williams.

Show some respect for this horrible national tragedy, please.

"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 24, 2010 11:24 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, as predicted, UNC reached 2,000 all-time wins last night

In their defeat of Miami.

That being said, they have one game left, a loss against Duke, to finish the regular season, and then head into the ACC Tournament as the likely 10 seed, given their records against BC (the team above them) and NCSU and Miami (the teams below them).

That sets up a game against Georgia Tech with their record standing at 16-15. Lose that game, they finish the season with a .500 record and 2,000 career wins. They’ll probably be invited to the NIT (which I believe you can with a .500 record).

Kansas is three games behind them with a possible eleven games remaining. If Kansas wins out, we’ll finish the season with 2,008 all-time wins and will have opened up a decent lead on North Carolina.

If you’re interested, Kentucky has 2,015 wins right now, with games remaining at Georgia and against Florida before heading into the conference tournament.

by PDXJayhawk on Mar 3, 2010 9:12 AM CST reply actions  

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