Early Thoughts on the Baylor Bears
Saturday's game against Texas Tech was fun and all, but the current goal is and will always will be one thing: Big 12 Championship. Wednesday the Jayhawks take their next step towards what we all hope will be their sixth straight regular season Big 12 title. They do so by welcoming into the (not so) friendly confines of Allen Fieldhouse, the Baylor Bears. So let's do just as head coach Bill Self's boys and continue full steam ahead through this sixteen game marathon that we call the Big 12 conference schedule.
Would you believe me if I told you that Baylor has size this year? Not just a tall guy, but depth, too? It's definitely not what they are known for. Two years ago, they had the ump-teen headed monster of guards (Bruce, Jerrells, Dunn, Dugat and Carter) Last year, it was the same group sans Bruce. This year, Dugat is graduated and gone. Slowly but surely, they have shifted from fun-and-gun team that runs up and down on you all day shooting threes at an alarming rate, to a more regular style of play. A style of play more on par with the general philosophy of basketball.
- A point guard with a high assist-turnover ratio.
- A 6'4" two guard that can hit shots from anywhere on the floor.
- A swingman that can not only score, but rebound.
- Three 6'10"+ big bodies to rotate in and out.
Check. Check. Check. And, check.
After taking a closer look at them, Baylor really does look to be a "contender" and not so much a "pretender" anymore. Scott Drew deserves some sort of special award for what he has done with that program since taking over after the atrocity that Dave Bliss had turned it into. Baylor is just one of those teams that I can't help but root for when I see them playing anybody not named Kansas. They certainly look to be a tournament team. Hopefully they can make it to 10-6 or 11-5 and help us by knocking off Texas in Waco. Wishful thinking, I know, but it could happen.
Record: 14-2 (2-1)
Best Win(s): Xavier, @Arizona State, @South Carolina
Worst Loss(es): @Colorado
Informative Baylor Links
- KenPom Page
- Oklahoma @ Baylor Recap
- Baylor @ Colorado Recap
- Oklahoma State @ Baylor Recap
- Also, this blurb from their Yahoo! Sports team page, titled Strategy and Personnel
Season Recap: The impression made by Baylor has not been something achieved exclusively at home. The Bears sent a message to the rest of the Big 12 with back-to-back road wins in the SEC at Arkansas and at South Carolina. By opening with a decisive 31-point romp against Oklahoma, the Bears look for real, with strength at all positions thanks to the addition of F Ekpe Udoh, a Michigan transfer who’s been a force at both ends.
Player Rotation: Usual Starters—F Ekpe Udoh, F Anthony Jones, C Josh Lomers, G LaceDarius Dunn, G Tweety Carter. Key Subs—F Quincy Acy, G A.J. Walton.
More Baylor preview coverage to come within the week.
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I'm happy that this game is at home.
Not that I’d be scared of going to Baylor to play but a little more seasoning before they head on the road for these opponents can only help.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Absolutely...
Ames can be tough so I was happy to see we got both Tech and Baylor at home before heading to Hilton
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Just a heads up...
There will be an OGT for the Texas-kstate game tonight. 8 pm CST. Big one in our quest for the title.
lol can't have a CKC without KC - Nicholai Khabibulin (LN21)
TO
They don’t force anyone to turn it over, and turn it over just enough to where I’m not too worried.
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The Olympics are coming!
Texas Tech really didn't us to turn it over either, it happened anyway.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
We were only like 1% over our season avg. in that game
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The Olympics are coming!
true, but weren't a whole lot of the TO's in the first half?
Really should start grabbing stats at halftimes of games when I’m around my computer.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
not sure
probably, but I would argue that a lot of that had to do with the pace of the game.
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The Olympics are coming!
I'm scared about this game
Has all the makings of longest home streak snapped, etc.
Although they lost to Colorado (who is better this year) so I dunno
Any team
that has a guy that can make eight or ten threes in a game (Dunn) seems to be able to beat us.
They are very good this year.
lol can't have a CKC without KC - Nicholai Khabibulin (LN21)
by Andy Edwards on Jan 18, 2010 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
Three Pointers = KU Loss
I agree with KCsince88. It seems that teams who are very good at shooting three pointers have been able to compete with and or beat us, ergo Tennessee, Cornell, Nebraska. All three of those teams had a lot of success from behind the arc, and because of that were able to take us on. KU’s defense allowed those teams a lot of open looks from three point range. If KU is to compete, they are going to have to clamp it down on the perimeter. They got enough size and strength inside to not worry about. But the guys who are defending the perimeter have allowed for too many easy shots. It’s clear that is how Baylor will attack and if KU can not defend the perimeter they might be in trouble.
I agree to a point.
Baylor has great size. They actualy have three key players 6’10" and over. They actually have more size than we do this year. Now, I’d take Cole over any of those three. But, I might say that I’d take Udoh over both Morri. He’s a stud. Lomers is a true 7-footer and can bang inside (276 lbs.).
Dunn and Carter do scare me quite a bit from the outside, though. I say all the above about their size not to disagree with that you said, obviously, because you were echoing my sentiments, but to credit Baylor where credit is due – their bigs are good, too. They are a complete team.
Also, welcome to the site, JFOX. Hope to see more valuable comments from you in the future.
lol can't have a CKC without KC - Nicholai Khabibulin (LN21)
by Andy Edwards on Jan 19, 2010 3:07 AM CST up reply actions
Cole better
A point of concern for me is the performance of Cole Aldrich, in the past four games, Cole has struggled. He is not living up to the performance we all expect of him. True our expectations in Jayhawk nation are typically high, but I feel Cole just isn’t playing as good as he is capable of. The games he has played well in, he has not had to deal with anyone inside, but whenever there was someone who could match up with him in size, he struggled. If he’s to hold his own, he will have to be able to beat other bigs convincingly.
Defensively,
Cole has probably been better than expected. I’ll take that trade off any day. I’m sure HCBS would, too. I do agree, though, that we need more form him offensively. It’s frustrating. I do think that opponents have truly gameplanned to take him out of things offensively, so he hasn’t been able to score as often as he would like. That just frees up the other guys, so fair trade. He needs a go-to move. It’s as simple as that. And, the ROAR doesn’t count as a signature move :)
lol can't have a CKC without KC - Nicholai Khabibulin (LN21)
by Andy Edwards on Jan 19, 2010 3:09 AM CST up reply actions
Yep, Cole has been a monster all year.
Just not a scorer.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Zone Defense
Remember that Baylor zone defense that gave KU (and other teams) trouble in the Big 12 tournament last year? I believe that is now their main defense.
KU better be hitting its outside shots because it could be a tough night going inside or getting offensive rebounds against 3 players 6’10" or taller.
by KU_Lew on Jan 19, 2010 7:21 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
he's back!!!
Lew, return from you Mangino fueled hiatus I see.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Owen on Jan 19, 2010 8:46 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Leeeeeeeewwwwww!!!!
You and Coach Gill seem to have put together an excellent staff for the football program. Kudos, good sir.
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 19, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
last coaching profile will be up tomorrow by the way.
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