Know Your Role: Tyshawn Taylor's Impact Felt
In this space was supposed to be an in-depth breakdown of Tyshawn Taylor, similar to that of my work after the Tennessee game. However, being at home to watch the game live for the first time in forever caused me to forget to set my DVR to record the game, so this space is now filled with a lovely fluff piece about our favorite enigmatic guard.
Guard play is key once March Madness rolls around. The Kansas Jayhawks already have one of the most experienced, clutch and big game guards in the country in Sherron Collins. Collins willed the Jayhawks to a win one week ago against Cornell and nearly did the same thing Sunday during Kansas' first loss of the season at Tennessee. And, once again, when the third ranked 'Hawks needed a spark and a shot in the pan in the first half to get over the hump against Nebraska Wednesday night, it was again Collins who drained three pointer after three pointer. He was four-of-five overall from three point range.
77 points in the last three games, and this team obviously belongs to Collins. However, as Kansas fans know, you can't get by in the NCAA tournament with stellar guard play from one player. The 2008 Championship team had the likes of Robinson, Chalmers and Collins - and it still took everything they had to beat Memphis - not to mention a far more consistent frontline of Jackson, Kaun and Arthur. The collective defense from those guards was the staple of that team. Solid leadership, good decision making and knowing their role made for a dangerous three-headed monster.
For this current team of Jayhawks to reach the ultimate goal and to cut down the nets in Indianapolis in March, Collins is going to need some help. Tyshawn Taylor would be best suited to fill that role. Having a second guard who can bring the ball up the court or allow Collins a seat on the bench for an extended period of time is an absolute necessity. Elijah Johnson has a bright, bright future - there's no doubt about that - but he's a freshman, and only a select few freshman guards come in and make that sort of impact. Many people, myself included, would like to see more of C.J. Henry, but Bill Self is the coach for a reason, as we are not. Xavier Henry has the highest ceiling of anyone on the team, probably, but isn't a "guard type" to handle the ball confidently (or do anything confidently at the present moment, let alone lead the team).
So, the burden falls squarely on the shoulders of Taylor, only a sophomore, but asked to step up into a more prominent, consistent role. He took a great first step in that direction Wednesday night.
vs. Tennessee: 13 points, 1 rebound, 3 assists, 4-11 field goals, 2-4 three point field goals, 3-4 free throws, 4 turnovers in 30 minutes
vs. Nebraska: 11 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, 2-4 field goals, 1-2 three point field goals, 6-8 free throws, 3 turnovers in 31 minutes
A nice two game up-swing after his abysmal zero point, one shot performance against Cornell. Better decision making, less one-handed passes, less out of control drives and more aware perimeter defense. That's what the team needs from Taylor. He doesn't have to score fifteen points a game. There's enough other players on the team that can do that on any given night. The thing that made the Robinson-Chamlers backcourt so dangerous wasn't their scoring ability. It was:
- getting themselves in the right position to make the correct pass on offense and knowing where they were supposed to be.
- picking and choosing their spots to take shots and hitting them.
- turning the ball over rarely.
- their collective perimeter defense - not a pass could be made laterally on the perimeter without being tipped into the backcourt and run out for an easy layup.
- hitting the biggest shot in Kansas basketball history (anytime you get a chance to post that, you do it.)
For your money, Robinson was the best role player at Kansas in a long, long time. He understood what his role was on the team and fulfilled it. Maybe Russell should stop by practice one day and just talk to Taylor about what it means to not know his role on the team and how you go about finding it. After all, Russell did nearly leave during his freshman year when he was going through the exact same thing as Taylor claims to be currently.
I will say this, though: If that is Tyshawn playing and not knowing what his role is within the team, opposing guards are going to hate facing him once he figures it out.
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For your money, Robinson was the best role player at Kansas in a long, long time. He understood what his role was on the team and fulfilled it. Maybe Russell should stop by practice one day and just talk to Taylor about what it means to not know his role on the team and how you go about finding it. After all, Russell did nearly leave during his freshman year when he was going through the exact same thing as Taylor claims to be currently.
Great paragraph. Robinson was the man.
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Or something like that.
Fo sho.
by PDXJayhawk on Jan 14, 2010 7:25 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I had the same thought the other night walking home.
Both are from the New York area and both came in with the reputation as scorers. RusRob figured it out and played his role and became one of the most beloved ’Hawks in his generation.
Turner Gill is introduced to the Kansas Athletic dept:
Gill, I'm Bill and this is Phil. Gill, I'm Phil and this is Jill. Gill, I'm Jill, you know Bill, Phil...
He's my 3rd favorite Jayhawk of all time
yeah he ended up learning his role offensively and all that, but he might have been the best perimeter defender ever at Kansas. He was just ridiculous.
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He was a for real klepto.
lol can't have a CKC without KC - Nicholai Khabibulin (LN21)
by Andy Edwards on Jan 14, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
I ran into him at the Union once
In line for the food checkout. I had a personal pan pizza, some cheesesticks, the works (I was hungry, shut up). Robinson had a bottle of juice. I said
“wow, looks like a filling lunch”
RussRob replied
“we aren’t allowed to eat shit. on some stupid diet.”
I said
“You don’t need to diet, you’re the skinniest one on the team”
He said
“Nah man I’ve gained 10 pounds I’m getting LEAN!”
Henceforth, I love me some RussRob!
by Andrew Clark on Jan 14, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
I'm surprised he didn't swipe your lunch with his fast hands
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by fetch9 on Jan 14, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I would have been honored for him to have
But I would have kept my food with my cat like quickness, jungle cat like instincts, and house cat love of food
by Andrew Clark on Jan 14, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I had lunch with
Jacques Vaughn in the Burge Union my freshman year… He was eating by himself and I sat down across from him not even realizing who it was. I sat down and it was kinda awkward so we kicked up a conversation. Just talked about life mostly, I don’t think we even mentioned basketball…
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Luke Axtell...
drank me under the table at the Hawk one time…prairie fire shots…ehk!!
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
So it was your fault he was disappointing as a Jayhawk. Bad Denver!
by hunter s. royal on Jan 14, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
Oh man those shots are deadly
I used to go to the hawk a lot because my house was like a block away. Awesome bar, douchtastic crowd though.
by Andrew Clark on Jan 14, 2010 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
It’s a small sample size, but the thing that stands out to me between those two games is the FGAs. I’m wondering if there’s an ideal number of FGAs Taylor should be taking that gives the team the best chance at success.
With only one loss on the season, you can’t really just look at the win/loss record to find out what Taylor’s prime attempts number would be. But maybe if you did some sort of analysis where you measured the “quality” of each game so far this year (maybe using Warden’s plus/minus?), and then ranked them, and compared that to Taylor’s FGAs in each game, I’m wondering if any kind of trend would appear- maybe something like, “when TT takes X or less attempts in a game, KU plays its best basketball.”
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by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 14, 2010 1:45 AM CST reply actions
Yeah, but shooting 4 of 11 isn't that terrible
Especially for a guard (his stats for the tennesse game) and against Nebraska one of his turnovers was Henry’s fault for not catching the ball when it hit his hands.
Really Taylor needs to focus on defense, he will get a few baskets via fast breaks and overall needs to pick his spots. Against NU last night, there was one example of him finding daylight and getting into the lane for a layup (although he missed)
by Andrew Clark on Jan 14, 2010 8:22 AM CST up reply actions
4 for 11 isn't good, either.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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36%
Not good, but people have shot far worse (i.e. me in basketball)
by Andrew Clark on Jan 14, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
I look for those tendencies.
Couldn’t really see anything just looking at the stat sheet. I’m going to try and watch a couple of games that I still have on the DVR the next couple days and see if there’s anything of note.
lol can't have a CKC without KC - Nicholai Khabibulin (LN21)
by Andy Edwards on Jan 14, 2010 9:28 AM CST up reply actions
Are you forgetting someone?
The 2008 Championship team had the likes of Robinson, Chalmers and Collins – and it still took everything they had to beat Memphis – not to mention a far more consistent frontline of Jackson, Kaun and Arthur.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Pete Carroll's biggest problem in joining the NFL ranks? Obeying a salary cap...
Not forgetting him.
I just grouped RR, MC and SC together because they fill the same role as what we need T2 to do.
lol can't have a CKC without KC - Nicholai Khabibulin (LN21)
by Andy Edwards on Jan 14, 2010 9:29 AM CST up reply actions
Ok, just had me confused because you added in the bigs too.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Pete Carroll's biggest problem in joining the NFL ranks? Obeying a salary cap...
Get that DVR qeued up my man...
I would have loved the full breakdown. Tech, Baylor, @ISU and MU to come though so I’m sure you’ll have plenty of opportunities in the near future.
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Texas
Thinking about Texas and how we stack up against them. This is what I’ve come up with:
Texas has struggled a couple times to win, playing their style of ball – high scoring, fast paced, no defense. That’s playing their style. Kansas has struggled a few times this past week playing the opponent’s style, but still pulling the win out 2 of 3 times. If anything, I think this gives us a leg up, because we can and have won playing different ways.
Maybe I’m reaching….
lol can't have a CKC without KC - Nicholai Khabibulin (LN21)
I think we'll lose to Texas because we never win in Austin... well ever
Then we’ll beat them in the tourny because we never lose to them in the tourny…. well ever.
JUST LIKE 2008 BABY! THE YEAR WE WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.
by Andrew Clark on Jan 14, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't say Texas plays "no defense"
by hiphopopotamus on Jan 14, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
In fairness,
I’ve only seen them play for about a half this year. Is there a reason they give up so many points to much lesser teams?
lol can't have a CKC without KC - Nicholai Khabibulin (LN21)
by Andy Edwards on Jan 14, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
I think it's because of how fast they're playing...
because they do give up points and team usually shoot a decent percent against them too. But they’re playing 10-11 deep – some of whom (Jai Lucas and Jordan Hamilton) are shitty defenders – but halfway through the second half, teams are wiped out against them and they end up coasting to victory.
They’ve got a few guys that really pressure the ball (Doge, Bradley) and some athletic guys inside (James, Pittman, Wangmene), so they can make life difficult. What I’ve yet to see them do (and really, I have the same question about us) is be able to get a stop when they need it. they’ve got a good “40 minute defense”, but I’m not sure if they have a great “big possession” defense.
by hiphopopotamus on Jan 14, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
they won't wear us down.
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by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 14, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
also
we can win when our best 2 players have off games. I can’t think of another team who can do that.
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Yes.
The best thing about last night, to me, was that we went on the knockout run with both Sherron and Cole on the bench for a short stretch, but more importantly, Sherron for even longer. The machine ran smooth without the master operator and took us to the victory. Sherron can do his thing, but he can’t make the other guys do theirs. That was huge.
lol can't have a CKC without KC - Nicholai Khabibulin (LN21)
by Andy Edwards on Jan 14, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
not to commit treason or anything,
but I sometimes wonder how much Sherron helps to elevate the play of his teammates.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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from what I see, it's that certain teammates fit as pieces with Sherron
and others don’t. Morningstar and Reed are the perfect wingmen, making defenses account for them on the perimeter. TT’s lack of spot-up shooting proficiency makes him a liability when Sherron’s on the floor; TT creates best with the ball in his hands and attacking, which is rare unless he’s the primary PG. And even Henry has seemed to play better when he’s the #1 scoring option: seems like he’s had trouble adjusting to being #2 (instead of being #1 for the first half-dozen games).
It’s just Sherron’s style, neither good nor bad. And if TT is better in a role backing up Sherron at PG than playing a mis-fit starting SG.
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 14, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah I've always thought this way too
That Tyshawn will be better after Sherron leaves playing more in a pure point guard role. Being able to get in the lane, dish, finish if its there, etc. Surround him with sharp shooters.
by Andrew Clark on Jan 14, 2010 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
You really think...
that if Cole and Sherron have a bad game that we can beat a good team? I’d like to think so, but I’m just not sure I’ve seen anything to make me believe that at this point.
by hiphopopotamus on Jan 14, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
maybe not Texas or Kentucky or someone like that
but if Wall and Cousins have bad games, Kentucky could lose in the 1st round of the tourney. If James and Bradley have bad games, Texas could get upset. I think it would be much tougher for us
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If Cole has a bad game we can
Its happened a lot. Sherron and Cole is tricky. I think if you had to pick which Hawk to play like animal stool, you’d have to pick Cole, Sherron bad can really stall the O and when he is on we are really tough to stop
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