Kansas at Tennessee Open Game Thread
by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2010 3:00 PM CST
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Kansas Jayhawks at Tennessee Volunteers, Jan 10, 2010 3:30 PM CST
This is it, the non conference wrap up for the Jayhawks. Once again however, a game that looked to be a stiff test a few months back takes a turn due to some player suspensions in key spots for the Vols. This will still be a good game. This will still be a decent test. Top 15 road opponent tough? maybe not quite. Make no mistake though, Vols fans will be ready and Bruce Pearl can still put a solid squad on the court.
CBS carries the game today so no need for any online feeds as I would certainly hope most out there will be able to find CBS. Even if it means taking your date to Buffalo Wild Wings with your laptop. Should be a good Open Game Thread as well after RCT seemed to step it up for Cornell. Big road games, bring out the best in the OGT's.
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7 assists too.
Seems like it’s been a long time since he’s had a good game.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
OHhh Kc burn on the front page
love it
by I need more Esteban on Jan 10, 2010 3:23 PM CST reply actions
I think Denver may be jealous.
I doubt Mrs. D lets him take a laptop out to the bar. :)
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
hurt really isn't the word you are looking for
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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Never gets old....
seeing Mario Chalmers with the championship hat and T on.
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Light crowd for this OGT, huh?
No KC, KU Grad, Slam, KGRTC, Labba?
Hmm…
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looks pretty quiet....
game lost some of it’s luster with the suspensions I suppose….I still think it’s going to be a tough one.
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Verne Lundquist
botches X’s first name. It’s “Za-vee-ay.”
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Missing a bunny by T2 is not a way
for him to get playing time.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 3:41 PM CST reply actions
Great article on Sherron in the Tribune...
I’ll have to get a fanshot up after the game.
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I'm hoping this one will...
give us some good prep work for MU. Similar pestering D style from the Vols…although not quite to the same level.
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I definitely did...
fun game but a little ugly. Had some whistle happy refs out there yesterday, felt like it kind of disrupted the flow at times. I think Kansas has it’s hand full with both those teams in their respective arenas. I
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Don't most losing teams' fans, though?
Especially in a close game like that…
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mmmm...I don't think it helped one team over the other really...
I just thought there were a lot of whistles. Definitely a high intensity, dive on the floor, fight for every bucket type game.
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felt like a late season Big 12 contest already....
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Judging by the way Marcus whacked
the UT player, I think he watched the MU-KSU game.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
did that once last week too...
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Its kinda like Brett Favre with interceptions..
A whole lot of upside, but you gotta take the good with the bad… I wish we had a “true” bigman
can't imagine a guy like Cole...
in Anderson’s system though.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
We really dont have that big of a problem rebounding
we outrebounded KSU and Georgia, both of which are longer and more athletic than us..
you guys have some good athletic big men....
they fit the system well. As long as you get a team to play your game you’ll be fine. I’d say the only place a true big man hurts you guys bad is if someone really manages to slow things down into a half court contest.
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well we still haven't found...
a real good way to incorporate him into the offense consistently. His biggest asset right now is on the defensive end and his board work(dominating these areas). Both of those can be neutralized if you guys get it into an up and down game.
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lot of standing around...
we’re going to have some growing pains on the offensive end as we adjust to better competition.
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We need to get X involved a little more
or we may need 30 from Sherron again to win. We’re getting it inside some, but missing some easy shots again.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 3:48 PM CST reply actions
I thought Cole got dinged on that or something...
looked pretty awkward on that jump
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I think he just kinda mis-timed it
It did look awkward, though.
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At least Tennessee is missing bunnies too.
T2 has recovered nicely from a poor start.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 3:53 PM CST reply actions
6 scholarship players
will force walk-ons in early, it seems.
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yep...4 players suspended...
cruising around with firearms in the car or something like that.
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Since the football game stinks, you guys don’t mind if I join you watching this game?
"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby
not in the least...
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not many good football games this weekend...
pretty disappointing Wild Card weekend
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I'm guessing that's where KUGrad is..
he’s a pack fan and probably not a happy one right now.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
How's Arizona get up 14 already? Wow.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
X needed that 3.
He’s looking a little timid.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 4:03 PM CST reply actions
hot opponent from three...
our offense looks relatively poor again. I’m really thinking this team is got to stumble to a loss soon.
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It's maddening when we do the right things on O
like driving it to the basket but then blow the layup.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
just feels like...
this team is a little lacking in the confidence department at the moment.
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couldn't agree more
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no joke... I dont like playing on the road
We lost to Oral Roberts on the road :O If that would have been at home, i think we would have won by 20
So guys...
Not to be off-topic, but if the cornell game was on the road, do you think you would have lost?
certainly possible....
I think the sandwich game effect was the biggest factor on that one.
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Just thought it would have been interesting
Because KU looked asleep until the last 5 or so… And its hard to beat a team that has won 51 in a row at home
CJ makes an appearance
as T2 blunders on consecutive plays.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 4:13 PM CST reply actions
make that an awful month...even season almost
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Not thrilled here
We look very out of sorts on offense, and they’re picking us apart currently.
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Blew our chance early to get a huge lead
and now we’ve let Tennessee get some confidence. Not good.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
ti'll be interesting to see...
how bench of 2 holds up over the course of the game.
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they only have two bench players due to the suspension...
6 regular players and one walk on. I’d think they’ll begin to tire in the 2nd half…and yes Anderson would really enjoy that opportunity.
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It might not matter if we don't score
for the remainder of this half.
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crazier things have happened....
I dont think the #1 team in the nation is “on the ropes” trailing by 6 in the first half lol… I think Kellogg is doin some quin snyder behind the mic
McMorris from the corner isn’t really the shot we need to be going for.
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It is not good right now.
passing it around the perimeter ad nauseum is not really stumping their D.
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right?
you can see they’re trying to post up cole, but he’s not getting good position… how dare he be pushed around like that
You don't beat a zone...
by setting four on the perimeter and throwing skip passes from one half of the court to another. Where’s the guy in the middle of that thing?
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I think we should have redshirted T2
also as he blunders some more. He’s getting painful to watch.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
i've seen T2 make too many huge plays to think he should sit a season.
but damn is he playing like shit or what?
Mostly joking about the RS.
We need him to play well so Sherron doesn’t have to play 35 minutes every game, but he’s been poor lately.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
Refs bailed us out there.
Sherron seems to be lacking vision today. Tyrel was wide open and begging for the ball and is ignored.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 4:19 PM CST reply actions
disappointing is the word I would use...
the lack of quality opponents this season is really becoming a concern as we just look lost when we get somebody that plays us tough.
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Poor stuff.
I’m surprised we’re this sloppy after the Cornell game. I would have thought that would wake us up. Self is going to go ballistic at halftime I’d think.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
I'd have to assume the treadmills...
aren’t going away anytime soon
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Penetration defense needs to improve
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Xavier....
misses a lot of bunnies if he gets bumped even a little.
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Horrible decision there
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T2 is not playing well today.
Hit that early 3, but hasn’t done much good since…
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That's where Taylor can make an impact
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PUT. IN. ELIJAH.
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 10, 2010 4:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions
seriously...
what happened to that guy. I never saw anything in his play that would warrant his lack of PT.
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I guess...
just wish Brady had more ways to score. I know Self is a big believer in him but….eh…
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Collins
with a huge play. Gets Chism’s 3rd foul and an and-one. Wow.
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BOOM!!
just like last year…never end a half with out a Tyrel Three!!
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Badly needed.
We escaped with a tie game when we were awful the last 10 minutes. Lucky. Chism just got his 3rd foul too. Huge.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
I think that was expected from them this year.
"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby
they did...
and quickly fell out. That was one of those games we were all hoping would help prepare us and ended up a pretty easy opponent.
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By the way, Slamdunk apparently wants me to say that he fucking loves whales.
I am easily satisfied with the very best
Thanks for the message.
We need it. We could also use Slam.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
Kinda difficult
for a back-to-the-basket big man to create his own offense.
Not all his fault, is what I’m saying.
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he isn't even being given a chance...
we’re just passing around the perimeter waiting for someone to take a bad shot.
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Chism got his 3rd foul right at the end of the half.
Cole should have his opportunities.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
he's been getting pushed around by much smaller defenders.
you could see on a few possessions they wanted to get it inside but Cole was busy arm-wrestling with weaker men
He needs to get on the Morri's weight program.
Bit disappointing he seems unchanged strength wise from last year.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
I miss Kaun, Jackson and Arthur on the alley oop pass.
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Feels like Cornell all over again right now
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he can't with any consistency...
which is why they ignore him.
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This just doesn't look or feel like a top team in the country
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and it keeps getting worse
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among others if this play continues...
the team was better at the end of last season than we’ve been recently. The fact that we don’t have a better option than Brady at this point is a little bit ridiculous. Top to bottom there aren’t people stepping up ever.
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I hate say it
but Texas may be the best team right now.
"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby
maybe...but we aren't
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yep...I'd say a lot of very good teams...
but no great ones head and shoulders above. We were billed as a Great team but that clearly isn’t the case. Minus games against weak opponents there appears to be marginal improvement in this group year over year.
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We needed Memphis to be Memphis...
UCLA to be UCLA, and Cal and Michigan to live up to their rankings. I know I have been stuck on this for a while but going have a year without much competition at all is killing us. While everyone else was getting better, we were getting complacent.
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Or at least take his t-shirt off.
Sleeves Brady ain’t working today.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
Trying to blow your sig line it looks like. :(
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
Better a loss now than in the Big 12,
but it was a noble goal. But, you’re right, it isn’t over yet.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
A team with 4 meaninful contributors suspended...
is looking like they could very easily beat us here. We barely took out an Ivy league team at home. Something has to improve drastically soon or Bill Self will be lucky to win the Big 12 let alone get to the final four.
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Let's not jump off the deep end just yet...
Really good teams struggle from time to time. This is all good experience for our guys, win or lose.
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I hear ya...
Kansas basketball is probably the one thing I truly get pissed about when the team doesn’t play how they should.
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I have to say
I am disappointed. One bad game shooting the 3 and the world is ending? Cmon now, we’re still fine.
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But panicking on the OGT is fun Fetch! :) Join us on the dark side!
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
I dont panic until March
we’re going to be a 1 or 2 seed going into the tourney, so a non conference loss doesn’t hurt my feelings
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also
maybe we need to lose one. This “play like shit but still win” thing probably makes them think they can just show up and win
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self even said as much in a recent article on ESPN
he said somethin like, “these guys think they can just show up and outscore everybody, but that can’t” or somethin like that
Disagree
By all accounts, in boot camp, nobody has outsprinted Tyrel in his 3 years at KU.
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That's what they always claim.
Though that may be an endurance thing rather than pure speed.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
or an effort thing...
coaches son, overachiever…he probably goes balls out in everything. A lot of guys probably give it enough to look like they are working hard during conditioning but are leaving a little something in the tank.
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Damn. Our skinny white boy shooters have not been good.
Brick by Tyrel then a hack foul.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 5:05 PM CST reply actions
Did the coaches son just outrebound three of our scholarship players??
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So...
been out and just got back in. Looks like a continuation of the Cornell game.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
pretty much
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seriously??
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Mori & X ...
need to step up. Can’t ask Sherron to do everything…
by MichiganJayHawk on Jan 10, 2010 5:12 PM CST reply actions
glad to have ya
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it's be nice if one of these times X would be the guy wide open for a 3
and not ice-cold morningstar or relly
that's been the biggest thing missing these last two games...
the Morri and X have dropped off from their early offensive outputs.
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tough to score
when you dont get it passed to you, eh?
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Cole wasn't a big part offensively ever this year
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that's what i'm sayin
he hasn’t shown any improvement in his game since last year. most disappointing 11 ppg ever
Man what a bullshit game
This team is starting to get massively exposed. Should have lost last game, now the daggers dropping
Dodged a bullet there
Lucky they gave us the shot-clock violation instead of a foul down there.
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This is the worst day of my life
Packers are getting raped and it looks like KU is going down (unless we pull our head out of our ass).
Its last year’s team. We have Sherron Collins, Cole every now and then, and thats it. Other dudes need to step the fuck up. Now. You’re all 5 star guys and you all have at least one year of pt under your belt (except X). Start playing like Kansas Basketball players or get the freak out
Honestly
This team needs a wake-up call. I’d rather lose this than lose in conference.
by MichiganJayHawk on Jan 10, 2010 5:18 PM CST reply actions
I hear ya...
but I don’t know that this means we get a wake up call or if it means we aren’t as good as we’d like to believe.
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We haven't been number one good all year
Save beating an overrated Temple team, has this team wowed you all year? Its last year’s team, everyone is slightly better and we added a good frosh.
In some aspects not sure how that warrants you from going to picked 4th in the league one year to national title favorites the next but I sure bit into it haha
Maybe we should just start hacking.
They can’t hit free throws.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 5:18 PM CST reply actions
Wish we'd make those layups
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No need to freak out
Lot of game left and Chism has 4 fouls
"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby
you've been telling us that for the last 20 minutes of game time and we're still losing : )
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Seriously?
Give up a basket and then throw it to press row.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
to steal a line from Jay Bilas (I think)
we need to value the basketball
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Danny needs to work with them
on getting that ‘dunk’ thing down.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
he must have decided to save his energy again and stop dunking
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they just can't miss from three. No shame in that
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It is a shame
that we had to go to a zone because our man to man D has been so poor. That’s more troubling.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
I'm feeling the same way...
I was confident with Cornell, not feeling it coming today.
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no D
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Have to agree with Denver about today.
We had a nice first 8 minutes, (albeit a bit sloppy) but we’ve been out-hustled and out-executed ever since.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
We need 6 minutes of 5-star defending here.
we’ve not gotten it yet, but we need it now.
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back to the three man weave up top for our offense
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There you go X
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he proved me wrong there...
that’s what he was supposed to bring
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and then give up a basket and have T2 throw it away for another layup.
Bye bye momentum.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
win the final 4 and a half guys
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Didn’t I say you shouldn’t freak out:)
"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby
Those three...
just don’t run the weave like Chalmers, Rush and Robinson…
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Goodness.
that went from looking very good to looking very bad very quickly.
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still sleep walking...
Cornell game all over again.
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Poor execution there
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
That offensive possession was ugly,
coughing the ball up all over the place
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
And channeling Buddy Bell,
it gets worse as Sherron gets stripped.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
evened it up at 64 and then...
pissed it away
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we're going to lose
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Even if we find a way to win, we’re not #1. It’s just disgusting that Kentucky will take it over.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
I think Texas.
Not that it really matters.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
Guys.. I hate to say it
but if this KU squad shows up on the road in big 12 play, you guys are gonna get punched in the mouth
yes I agree but...
don’t be so quick to write Kansas off…Bill Self won a conference championship last year when no one thought they could.
Plus I’m sure the same could be said if Missouri showed up with the same team that lost to Vandy, ORU and Richmond. Your team has improved with it’s losses and I expect Self can improve his.
I think we’ll still compete for the conference but it’ll be a rollercoster ride for sure.
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Oh, dont get me wrong, i am not writing you guys off
I see this as a learning experience.. MU lost to oral roberts, and we are a better team because of it. But if you guys execute like you did today, its gonna be rough on the road.. You will win the ones at home, you always do, but poor execution on the road= doom
absolutely...
I just think we end up better on the road then what you are seeing today. MU, K-State and Texas will all be very tough road games. Then I’ll say we could drop one of A&M or Okie State but not both.
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I think MIZZOU is gonna be tough at home this year...
I think we have a chance to beat Texas at home… I say we lose at KU, and at KSU.. And possibly baylor or ISU.. the only losses at home i can think of is KU or UT.. but you never know about rivalries
So you would...
put MU at 14-2 only losing at KU and at KSU?
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We could be anywhere near 14-2
or 2-14.. the big 12 is tough this year..
I say we lose to @KU @KSU, Texas and @Baylor
Big 12 will be very tough this year...
I think you’ll drop one more somewhere that you aren’t expecting. 11-5 finish in the conference. I think Kansas is either 12-4 or 13-3.
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I honestly don’t know yet, I’ll say 5 or 6.
Kansas
Texas
Missouri
Kansas State
Baylor
and either
A&M or Okie State
but I’m just getting my basketball legs under me so that’s a gut feeling there.
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I would throw tech in the mix too
I think they are grossly overrated, but could sneak in a few road wins and make a big 12 tourney run
I'm in agreement on Tech...
I’m not sold on them yet but I think they could put something together.
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I would also put ISU on the list for the potential upset
I know they almost lost to NDSU, but, hey, you never know
I think
the kids were buying all the “Best in the Nation” hype and thought they can cruise on talent alone. They will win with Defense, which they aren’t playing most of the time.
by MichiganJayHawk on Jan 10, 2010 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
Good point.
The D was sadly lacking today, to the point we had to go to a zone against a short handed team.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
No matter how this finishes, it’s clear to me now that this isn’t a 40-0 team. Also, any talk about the second 5 doing well on its own was silly and premature.
We have got to develop an offensive threat other than Sherron against decent teams or we won’t be going anywhere in the tournament. Hopefully X or Cole can become that threat.
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 10, 2010 5:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Well, that's something.
We can blame KC and his post for our defeat!
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
Well if we can't pull this one out
At least its not a conference game. Can’t pull em all. Keep fighting boys, keep fighting/
PACKERS CUT IT TO 7!
Looks like we finally decided to play defense
by fizzle406 on Jan 10, 2010 5:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions
pretty obvious it wasn't meant to be when that crap falls
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that guy didn't even want to shoot that
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walk away guys...quit fouling and walk away
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Yeah, and now morons won't be predicting 40-0 seasons
and stuff like that.
Operation 40-0 is a go. Proceed to target.
by Bensa on Jan 10, 2010 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
Now self can rid ’em even harder! Maybe they will listen.
by MichiganJayHawk on Jan 10, 2010 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
drops us to #4....?? lower?
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I say #3.
Duke & Purdue both lost. We’re not dropping that far.
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Nova and Kentucky might jump in front of you guys.
"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby
I can see Kentucky for sure.
They’ll be #2 behind Texas. We’ll be #3, maybe #4 behind Nova.
Operation 39-1 is a go. Proceed to target.
Purdue should drop with their loss
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is Purdue not already #4 though?
if that’s the case I don’t think they remain there and we drop below them.
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#4 lost to #20
- lost to #16 … drop should be about the same.
by MichiganJayHawk on Jan 10, 2010 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
That seems rational,
but you are arguing with a Missouri fan. :)
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
to be fair he's been....
nothing but respectful today. A little dig at the end of the game but pretty tame and nothing you wouldn’t expect from a rival.
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Just agreeing with MichiganJayHawk's logic.
And pointing out the lack of logic the other poster was bringing. :)
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 6:21 PM CST up reply actions
yep...turn the page...
what’s done is done, but I do think it’s time to reevaluate the lofty expectations from the beginning of the year. I have no doubt Bill Self will coach this team up and improve quickly but I’m not sure we deserved all the hype as someone said above.
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oh I still think we're the best team
Tennessee shot really well from three, we didn’t. It happens
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I don't think this boiled down to being as simple as them hitting threes and us not
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I don't either
but it’s a huge part of why they won.
We definitely need to go inside more.
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I disagree
The expectations are the same (save the undefeated season, of course). We have a crap-ton of talent on this team, and if they play to their potential, they are the most talented team in the country. HCBS will use this effectively, rest assured.
Operation 39-1 is a go. Proceed to target.
Yes, there's plenty of time
and plenty of options for NCHCBS to work with. Lots of guys on the bench aching for more playing time.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
I'd love to see some more of those guys.
Coach obviously doesn’t.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Well, as lousy as T2, Brady, and Tyrel were,
I’d think CJ at least would get more time. He was in for a few minutes in the first half. Now we have a loss, Self may experiment a little more.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
There is a ton of talent...
but clearly not as much as we’d like to believe since our bench isn’t going very deep anymore and the ones that are in, aren’t performing to the level they should.
I know I’m overreacting a little bit but I just think this is a tougher road than many of us were anticipating. Coach Self is definitely one of the best in the business at building a team over the course of the season, I just feel like we needed more games like this earlier to grow up sooner. Now we’re just beginning that process in some respects and we’re about to dive headfirst into conference play.
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Very true
A schedule that looked rock solid & tough at the beginning of the season left a lot to be desired by how other teams underperformed so far … see UCLA & Cal.
This team is incredibly talented, but they really need to play defense for 40 minutes, not the 20 or 25 they played today.
by MichiganJayHawk on Jan 10, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
Probably the thing I love most about Coach Self over his predessesor...
is his emphasis of defense…he’ll have these guys playing forty by end o season but you are absolutely right…we weren’t even close today.
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Bensa and KC...
both made some great fanposts and topics for discussion but we were jinxed…I’ll do a write up preaching my negativity tomorrow in order to offset things.
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I think it's Sherronwhatthehellwhateverdoucheboy's fault.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
definitely another potential person to lay blame on : )
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Rather blame the negative waves his banning generated
than Bensa or KC. I guess.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
was that guy actually banned?
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yeah...he got pretty wild during the NC thread???
plus I really think it was more a joke by somebody than a real account. Entertaining at times but annoying at times as well.
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no clue why I put ??? at the end of that
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Totally missed that.
I’m not living in a world where I can watch anything on time so I always miss the OGT…
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Hmm...didn't see this coming.
Oh wait.
But you know what, fellas? You gotta go strong or you shouldn’t go at all. That’s what I say. I took my shot. I was wrong. Oh well.
Operation 39-1 is a go. Proceed to target.
No brave deed goes unpunished apparently. :)
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
It's all good.
I can take it. I’m a man! I’m 40! Actually, I’m 31, but still…
As I said in the thread from that fanpost, it’s REALLY easy to say “we’re not going undefeated,” but where’s the fun in that?
Operation 39-1 is a go. Proceed to target.
Man that sucked
Like I said earlier, we are getting a solid dose of reality. We aren’t good enough to “show up” gotta go out and beat teams.
KState guys are celebrating. Guess this is bigger to them than their loss to Mizzou
Eh, this isn't a conference loss.
So no real damage done.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 6:19 PM CST up reply actions
looks like your pack are back in it
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yes crazy game.
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Anyone else concerned that the Morri
are forgetting their lessons learned. Marcus especially has been timid around the hoop and it seems Sasha Kahn mailed his hands to them from Russia…
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Yes, definitely worried about the Morri these last couple of games.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
they have seemed to regress...midseason slump I'm hoping
plus we have to remember they are still sophs…plenty of room to grow still.
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I'm wondering
how many turnovers could have been attributed to them either kicking a ball, throwing one half court out of bounds, or letting a catchable ball slip through their hands. Just sloppy.
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Everyone was rotten today
so it’s hard to concentrate on just them. I thought T2 was probably the most damaging. His ineffectiveness led to Sherron turning into a ballhog and really stunting the offense.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
T2
was pretty bad. X was rough at times too with his decision making. First time playing in front of 21,000 opposing fans will do that.
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how big is Temples arena???
hopefully today will help us a little when we go on the road in the conference. Everyone shows up when Kansas comes to town.
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Dunno -
but Rockytop was a much more intimidating environment.
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The Liacouras Center,
Or whatever it’s called, seats about 10,200.
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The good thing about the Morri slumping
is you can always bench one and give Robinson some minutes. If T2 is bad, then Sherron is forced to do all the ball handling. Maybe CJ can fill in there, but that seems a longshot for him to contribute a lot with his injury problems and inexperience. So that seems the more serious problem long term.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
T2
was also way out of control at times. I’d be interested to see the Warden Stat on him today … suspect he is either negative or a 0 after his late rally.
by MichiganJayHawk on Jan 10, 2010 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
Really our role guys need to focus
To me it seems like the Morri, Tyshawn, etc just kinda are out there half the time. If you aren’t a main scoring option you can at least bring big energy to defense, set good screens etc.
I was a little suprised not to see more of CJ.
Reed was brutal most of the game and as much as we needed 3’s it would have been nice to see him in there.
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He got a few minutes in the first half.
I would think he’ll continue to get more, as bad as T2, Brady, and Tyrel were down the stretch.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
that was my thought.
I was pleasantly surprised to see him in the 1st half and was wondering where he was down the stretch when we needed a burst off the bench.
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Also think Tyshawn's inability to shoot the basketball hurts this offense
Teams know he has to drive to score, and he forces this which leads to out of control turnovers.
Our offense was so lethal when we had our Sherron-Mario-Brandon lineup because all three could defend, dribble drive, and more importantly shoot the three very consistently. Nightmare for opposing guards.
Not to get down a ton on Tyshawn, but not sure how he fits the two guard role with no outside shot. Might be time to explore other lineup options, especially with Brady back, and CJ hungry on the bench (Elijah too)
wow - TD
Warner does it again. What a game.
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Are you sure they haven't snuck in an Arena league game?
The lack of D on both sides is amazing for playoff teams.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
Both these QBs are playing amazing
Hard to tell by these awful, boring announcers, of course. If Joe Buck is so uninterested in football, why does he get this job??? God I hate him so much.
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 10, 2010 6:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And now Joe's whining about having to do a playoff overtime game.
F*ck that douche right in his smarmy f*cking face.
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 10, 2010 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
Kurt Warner is just toying with these guys
He just takes it to another level in the playoffs sometimes.
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 10, 2010 6:49 PM CST reply actions
There's some serious irony
in a football game with 96 points scored ended by a defensive play.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 7:02 PM CST reply actions
I just dropped in
to see how bad you were taking this loss. You played BAD! I would think the guys just overlooked the Vols. After all they had 6 scollys and a few walkons. I hail from A Sea of Blue! One thing I noticed that would get you removed QUICK! Is your language. Good luck down the road. Go Big Blue!!
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I think we all expected a loss at some point. Not the end of the world but never easy to swallow when it happens. I don’t think we overlooks the Vols as much as we are playing poorly over the past two games and something seems missing. Just need to regroup a little and get back at it. There are definitely some areas that need to be addressed.
As for the language. It wasn’t directed at anyone so no harm no foul I guess.
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Must be.
How awful! You and Kenny won't be allowed on the UK blog. You must both be heartbroken!
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
says he's 70 years old...
if that’s true his language tolerance might be lower than ours?
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Bullshit (woops, Damnit woops again)
My grandpa swears more than anyone I know. He uses cuss words that I don’t think other people have used in years
I wander over to ASOB once in a while
and I’m pretty sure he’s talking about the moderator over there running a pretty tight ship. A good idea, because it can get pretty heated with the rabidity of UK fans and the site might begin to resemble Arrowhead Pride if they’re not careful.
Luckily we're all so mild tempered and mellow here that isn't necessary.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
Wow dude you're really BLEEEEEPing cool
We’re all pretty BLEEEPing upset about the game, no BLEEPing doubt about it. But BLEEEP man, no need to come here and be a BLEEP BLEEP about it. Yeah we played bad. Oh well. We’re still a BLEEP good team.
And for BLEEP dude, you’re a BLEEPing Kentucky fan. You guys haven’t won BLEEEP in years. Good luck with your BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP coach, hes one BLEEP. When you’re on probation in 5 years don’t say you weren’t warned. Sorry about our BLEEP language. Sometimes people swear when they are upset, joking around etc. No big BLEEP deal right? I’m glad to see you BLEEP at BLEEP A sea of BLEEP Blue don’t swear. I couldn’t stand getting band from that BLEEP.
how far has your program fallen
when you come into some totally unrelated team’s thread to talk smack? It’s one thing if it’s a Missouri or K-State fan, but Kentucky? Haha that’s funny.
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Pretty light smack anyway.
Takes a few shots, then wishes us good luck. Not exactly ruthless. :)
by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
yep....
light smack talk should be a little bit expected from a loss like this…as long as it’s not over the top, I figure we deserve a little.
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Not from Kentucky fans
I allow smack talk from teams that beat us (thus annoyed with KStaters talking crap. Guess 44 out of 46 whatever it is now doesn’t get the point across to them) and from people I know and our friends with.
Kentucky fans just bother me. Their team now is competitive again and all of a sudden omg we are so awesome everyone else sucks etc etc.
Don't Feed the trolls...
… it just makes them feel they are right :)
by MichiganJayHawk on Jan 10, 2010 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
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