SB Nation Big 12 Roundtable: Week Two
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1. A solid 10-2 showing for the Big 12 this weekend. Which of these wins was biggest for the Big 12 and why?
Now, there is a difference between 'biggest' and 'most impressive'. I think that is a given, but it is still worth pointing out. With that said, the biggest win was clearly Oklahoma State's victory over ESSS EEEE SEEE power Georgia. Now, yes, Georgia will likely have a down year, after losing two Top 12 picks, the QB and RB no less. Still, a lot of people were taking the Dawgs, and Oklahoma State stepping up and winning is a big feather in the cap for the entire conference.
More importantly, they won a defensive battle. Again, Joe Cox is the starting QB, but still, the Pokes did quite a bit to dispel that silly notion that the Big 12 really has no defense at all. The Big 12 owes Bill Young a nice steak dinner, or something.
2. Conversely, the Mountain West did its damage against Colorado and Oklahoma. What's more disconcerting -- a sleeper in Colorado coming unglued, or a power in Oklahoma getting knocked off.
The power getting knocked off. Colorado was only a sleeper to some, and it isn't like the North was depending on them to be respectable. It could be the greatest year in the history of the Big 12 North, with three legitimate Top 25 teams in Nebraska, Missouri and Kansas. They are all way at the bottom of the rankings right now, but all of the talent to scoot on up.
On the other hand, Oklahoma did not look good on Saturday night. Even when Sam Bradford was alive and kicking, their offensive line couldn't handle BYU's blitzes, and their defense was bailed out by a couple of timely turnovers from a much larger loss. And depending on how long the injured shoulder takes to heal, Oklahoma couldn't be done losing -- Miami looked really, really good on Monday night, certainly good enough to beat a Sam Bradford-less Oklahoma. Hell, even if Bradford comes back for that game, I bet it won't be a blowout. The Sooners certainly disappointed Saturday night, and it might take awhile before they recapture all of the mojo they lost.
3. Right now, the college football world is rotating around a shoulder that can't rotate itself. What does the Sam Bradford injury mean for the conference right now?
It isn't the same place. Oklahoma State's big step up early in the afternoon doesn't mean nearly as much, anymore, because there rise was shortly followed by Oklahoma's fall. Right or wrong, Oklahoma was expected to roll BYU. When Sam Bradford left the game, just seconds before intermission, the game was tied, with the Sooners trotting out a field goal kicker. BYU had just turned the ball over at the goalline, and for all intents and purposes, had outplayed Boomer Sooner in the first half.
Remember, this was with Sam Bradford in the game. And then Landry (can we call him Lance?) Jones came in, and was just really bad. So, it will be up to Stoops and Company to get him ready to at least not blow it against Tulsa. As long as Bradford comes back quickly, and plays just as well, there won't be a whole lot of damage done to the conference. But if you are just interested in the Big 12, you want him back as soon as possible and putting up some more 60-point games.
4. How, if at all, did your perception of your team change after week one, both for better and for worse?
Basically, it didn't change at all. It is quite difficult to obtain too much knowledge through playing a 1-AA team that has won 3 teams in 3 years. I don't mind a cupcake to start off the non-conference schedule, Mark, and even a 1-AA team doesn't give me the shivers. But at least make it a competitive 1-AA team, please.
If there was anything to be gained, is that we can run the ball more effectively. Yes, again, terrible 1-AA team, but we eclipsed 300 yards. On the negative side of the ledger, our defensive line (outside of Jake "Stud" Laptad) got minimal push, while Anthony Davis and Calvin Rubles, the two corners that split time opposite Daymond Patterson, combined for 4 pass interference penalties. Now, they were silly penalties, and ones that can be easily corrected, but it is still disconcerting.
So, like I said, it basically stayed the same. Some parts slightly more positive (like Branstetter's leg!), and some slightly more negative (Jonathan Wilson, where did your hands go?), and in reality it is just one game. We should learn a whole lot more Saturday in El Paso.
5. Give us your offensive player of the week, defensive player of the week, and coaching move of the week, including justifications for your selection. You ARE eligible to vote for your own program.
Umm. How about for Coaching Move, I give it to Dan Hawkins for getting Darrell Scott only one carry. It's always crucial to keep your best playmaker on the bench as much as possible, in case he makes your son look bad. Good call, Dan. That's why this ain't Intramurals.
In all seriousness, I didn't watch the game closely enough to really analyze a specific Coaching Move (stupid Big 10 country...nobody cares about Western Michigan-Michigan, especially when it's 31-0 in the 4th quarter), but I'll give it to Bill Young of Oklahoma State just for being awesome. And having an entirely aces performance.
Offensive Player of the Week -- Blaine Gabbert. Easy. Blaine is a stud, and is already the #1 pick in the 2011 NFL Draft. He might be the best quarterback I've ever seen. Well, except that Jeff George. Seriously, though, kid's a really good quarterback. I wouldn't be surprised to see some picks once they face a real defense, but he has a stronger arm than Chase Daniel and just as much mobility. If he can master the offense as well, he will probably turn out even better. That means the onus is on Kale Pick.
Defensive Player of the Week -- Von Miller. Just a quick perusual of statistics over the weekend, and 3 sacks stands out. I kind of wanted to homer it and give it to Laptad, but 3 > 2, and New Mexico > Northern Colorado. Sorry, Jake.
6. Big 12 Power Poll! Rank the teams from 1-12. (Again, the simple criteria for this is power, i.e. who would beat who on a neutral field?)
Uh, yeah, I already did this earlier this week. But I want to change it. That's allowed, right? And just for reference's sake, I'm acting as if I had to play Oklahoma on Saturday, which means everyone's favorite shoulder will still be in a sling. Just sayin'.
EDIT: Yeah, uh, next time I should probably read the actual directions. I missed the neutral field aspect. I feel like an idiot. The crossed out names were my original poll, with the new teams my "real" Power Poll!
- Texas
- Oklahoma State
- Missouri
BaylorNebraskaNebraskaKansasKansasBaylorTexas A&MOklahomaOklahomaTexas TechIowa StateTexas A&MTexas TechIowa State- Kansas State
- Colorado
EDIT CONT.: That better?
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Big Shakeup in the RC power poll....
very interesting…interesting indeed.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Wow...Cyclones make a three-spot leap
after giving up 200+ rushing yards to the Fighting Ben Woodsides? Must’ve had really high hopes for Colorado.
I agree with OU at #8….they need to be knocked way down simply for letting a kid sport a mustache like Landry Jones’.
Well it's just that Tech, K-State and Colorado all looked worse.
Tech probably should have been ahead of them, but they were only up by 15 with 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter against a D-II team.
At least the Ben Woodsides are 1-AA.
So you think Baylor...
would beat both Nebraska and Kansas on a neutral field if they played tomorrow?
And you think Iowa State...
would beat Texas Tech?
by hiphopopotamus on Sep 9, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
RC
c’mon man, don’t fall into the hype machine so quick!
This is a lot more realistic if we are talking about playing on a neutral field, this Saturday:
1. Texas
2. OK. St.
3. Kansas
4. Missouri
5. OU
6. Nebraska
7. Baylor
8. Texas Tech
9. Texas A&M
10. K-State
11. Colorado
12. Iowa St.
Wow that is actually really hard to do so I’ll give you a break, but Baylor 4th? I know they had a good win Sat. but c’mon! You think they would beat us?
by I need more Esteban on Sep 9, 2009 12:02 PM CDT reply actions
I think OU falling one more spot is reasonable,
even if I don’t agree with it. But yeah, Iowa State at 9 is crazy. My family is all Iowa State, and trust me, they struggled. Defense still looks terrible.Maybe to 10, but no way do they beat TT. The kitties, clones and Hawkins really are interchangeable tho as the bottom 3, imo.
definitely possible
I just figure OU still has a great D and running game. It’s all subjective, though.
by I need more Esteban on Sep 9, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
It's alright
RC’s just giving the ’Hawks some bulletin board material before UTEP.
“See, even our own BLOGS aren’t giving us respect. Rock Chalk HIMSELF has you picked below Baylor. Baylor? Now, go out and kick some Miner ass so this kid over in Cincy can show us some respect”
“rawr, rawr, rabble, rabble” etc etc etc
If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably propaganda.
by labbadabba on Sep 9, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
So, with my newly revised poll, we are much closer.
You hate on the Huskers. I’m not a huge fan, myself, but they actually looked pretty dang good on Saturday night against an underrated Florida Atlantic team. They ran the ball at will, better than us against a much better opponent. So I’ll leave them just ahead of us. I slide Oklahoma down further, because no Gresham plus Landry Jones at QB is an awful combination. Yikes.
Kansas State and Colorado looked dreadful. So, yeah, kinda, I think Iowa State would win. I will probably end up being way wrong, but it’s how I feel.
I think we had everything else basically the same.
I obviously misread the idea.
I was kind of mixing how good they were “supposed” to be with how well they played on Saturday/Sunday/Thursday.
Obviously, I cheated. I apologize.
If I actually obey the rules, and rank the teams as to how they would actually fare if they all played each other tomorrow on a neutral field (and I’ll edit in a second) this is how I see it:
Slide Baylor down to 6. Move Nebraska up to 4 and Kansas up to 5 (they are basically tied, though.)
Slide Oklahoma up to 7, slide A&M to 9, Tech to 8 and Iowa State to 10.
Meh
I don’t think non-con is a really good indicator of big12 play. For example 2-3 years ago KState nearly lost to a 1-AA team and a few weeks later beat Texas. So hey ya never know.

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