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A look at News and Notes from Saturday's Game...

Denver's Take...

Well it wasn't the game I was looking for but it was a win.  My hope was the Jayhawks would put the pieces together, look crisp and give us a glimpse of what we'll be looking at for the remaining stretch of the season.  That didn't happen.  Statistically it looked great still and on the scoreboard it looked solid, but there were dropped passes, blown assignments, passes in the dirt and mistakes made.

Here's why I'm okay with all those things though.  Mark Mangino coached teams always seem to follow this trend and continue to gel, come together and save their best football for late.  Now don't get me wrong I think they need to step it up starting next week, but as long as by game 7(OU) we see things really come together, Kansas has a chance to make some serious waves.

The pieces are there.  Jake Sharp was down with a tweaked calf and despite the preseason concerns over running back depth, the running game carried on.  A 4.9 yard average was a bit of a drop from past games but it's certainly acceptable and Duke is the first team we've played that actually put some focus on stopping our run versus just stopping Todd.

In terms of the passing game, we certainly all have become accustomed to expecting perfection.  It isn't there but 338 through the air with 3 touchdowns and no interceptions pretty damn close against a team that's throwing out an umbrella of coverage on most downs.

Defensively we saw our team take a haymaker early but recover for a pretty solid performance bending but not breaking for much of the game.  Repeat Big 12 defender of the week possibly in the works for Max Onyegbule as he registered a sack and an int for a touchdown to boot.  Huldon Tharp a true freshman put together 10 tackles in this one and he was noticably making plays.  Darrell Stuckey also looked like his former self making plays at or behind the line for a total of 10 tackles for the fifth time in his career. 

Kick coverage continues to look solid, Dezmon Briscoe has what it takes to give us a decent return game, Alonso Rojas has been kicking inside the 20 with relative consistency and Jacob Branstetter got back in the action assisting on a tackle once again in kick coverage. 

Was it perfect? No.  Is there improvement to be done before we take on OU, Tech, Texas, Nebraska and Missouri?  Absolutely and it will be necessary.  Still though, this is a very solid coaching staff and Mangino coached teams consistently step it up as the season ticks on.  I wanted a little more on Saturday but I'm happy with how we've used these first three non conference games despite the fact that we haven't put together the "perfect" game.  Besides, we might as well save those for October and November rather than September. 

Postgame Quotes and Notes after the jump...

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Kansas Head Coach Mark Mangino

On responding to Duke's fast start:

"We responded very well. We knew Duke likes to throw a lot of screen passes and we worked on it all week, but they executed perfectly and got the draw and got it in the end zone, so give credit to them. Duke overall, I really like what they're doing there. I studied them all week on tape and then watching them today; you can see that they are very, very well-coached. They have some outstanding offensive and defensive schemes. Their players play very hard. So I can see some similarities with what Coach (David) Cutcliffe is doing there compared with where we were here several years back. I really enjoyed watching them because they do some good things and they are very well-coached."

On the play of the defense:

"The defense played well most of the day. The first two plays of the game were not good. I thought we were flat and not sharp. After that we buckled down and then we let that drive take place at the beginning of the fourth quarter that I didn't particularly like. They converted some fourth downs and third downs, we missed a sack, we lost contain on the quarterback and had a couple of costly penalties. I didn't like that drive. But the rest of the day, the defense played very well except for those two situations."

On the play of Todd Reesing:

"Todd did a great job. He did what we asked him to do. He threw some balls in tough coverage. Credit to Duke, they mixed things up pretty well and gave us a lot of looks, man looks and zone looks. But Todd got into a rhythm and he saw what they were doing and did a really good job of managing the game, throwing the football and running the ball when he had to. He was a victim of some crucial drops that we had, one probably would have been a big play and another third down converted. But he played very well."

On Freshman Running Back Toben Opurum:

"Toben did a good job. He was pressed into duty today. Jake (Sharp) was injured in basically a non-contact drill this week; it was just a strange occurrence. We thought he was going to be OK but when he went out in the pregame to cut, he didn't feel good. He just didn't have that explosion or spring in his step. So Toben had to step up and he did a really, really god job. He's a true freshman and he made a few mistakes but he did some really awesome things and it's good to know that we have a reliable guy back there to work with Jake."

Kansas senior quarterback Todd Reesing

On getting off to a slow start:

"We came out and were moving the ball from the very beginning but we just weren't able to convert a few third downs and kind of faulted a little bit. But we got it going, it really picked up in the second quarter. I felt like we moved the ball pretty well all day long. We had a little trouble running the ball, obviously Jake (Sharp) wasn't in there all the time but a lot of things were open in the passing game. We missed a couple big plays that we had. A couple guys dropped some passes but that's going to happen. For the most part I think we did a good job of protecting the ball and a good job up front on the line. A lot of stuff we can learn from but for the most part we just did what we had to. We came in, it was a home game, we expected a win and we took care of business."

On Duke making it hard to move the ball:

"They were showing some different coverages and stemming around and doing some different things. They were playing really aggressive on the short passes and that's why we decided we needed to take some shots down the field and we got some guys open deep down the field and got some big plays. That's just kind of how we do it. If they are going to take away the short stuff, then we have to throw deep. We made the adjustments we had to and went from there."

On whether it's a challenge to be played differently now that teams have more respect:

"It's nothing different that we haven't seen last year and the year before. Teams are going to make adjustments that they sit fit. I'm sure a lot of teams are going to try and keep me in the pocket and not let me scramble and make plays when things aren't open; but our offensive line does such a good job up front of staying on blocks and keeping fighting the whole play that we're still going to have some big plays in the scramble game. Teams are doing some things that are different. We've played a lot of games over the last couple years where teams do things that we're not expecting and it's just up to us to adjust and make some changes here and there and go on."

 

Kansas senior safety Darrell Stuckey

 

On the win today:

"I feel like we played great most of the time but there were a couple times in there where we had a couple wrinkles, which is a good thing early in the season so we can get those worked out and we can get better as a defense."

On the first Duke drive of the game:

"I think it was just because it was the first play, the defense is excited and you're running to the ball, flying to the ball, and you just over pursue. As the season goes on we'll get better at that and be able to sit on that first play instead of being too anxious to go to the ball."

 

On the pressure the defensive line is putting on the quarterback:

"They're doing a great job and they keep getting better every week. They do whatever they can to get to the quarterback and that is one thing we emphasize over the off season. It's one of the things that we continue to get back at and its understanding each person's responsibilities and making the defense one unit instead of individuals."

On how the defensive line helps the secondary:

"It helps us out a lot. It gives us a realistic look and we can actually cover a receiver instead of trying to chase him or letting him do whatever he wants to do because they're scrambling or buying too much time in the backfield. It's one of those things that it's always great as a defense to have pass rush."

Kansas junior wide receiver Dezmon Briscoe

On how he felt about his own performance:

"I felt like my first half game was what we needed to have the offense get to where it was. In the second half I felt like I left a couple balls on the field that I normally catch. I can't do anything about it now but let it go and focus on next week."

On the number of passes dropped by Kansas:

"It's surprising because we go through practice and we catch everything that usually around us. For us to come into the game and have it end up happening is disappointing to a wide out. All we can do is let it go."

On whether or not he feels like he is making up for lost time:

"I thought about that but not really. Whatever the game plan coming in is what I've got to do. Nothing changes about that."

Kansas senior defensive end Maxwell Onyegbule

On the interception he returned for a touchdown:

"The defensive end is supposed to drop. The quarterback didn't see me and he threw it right to me. I just ran for my life into the end zone."

On whether or not he showing signs of reaching his potential:

"Yeah, I kind of see that. I'm just playing one game at a time and trying to do my best."

On when he knew he was going to be able to score:

"I just took a glimpse back to see where everybody was at and there wasn't anybody behind me."

On the last touchdown he scored:

"The last touchdown I ever scored was my senior year in high school versus Lamar High School. It was a punt block. The ball got blocked and I guess I just caught it in the end zone."

Duke Head Coach David Cutcliffe

On the game:

"It's very difficult to come in and have any magical words, we got beat and we got beat handily. But what you do know is that if you think you are defeated then you lost. That mentality is not something that we embrace or are going to. We have a lot of goals and obviously one of those every week is to win. Where we are right now I can't have goals just to win games, we have a lot of things that we have to try to accomplish each week. We are going to focus on what we did well, because as a staff we can learn what this team is capable of."

On Kansas:

"They are far better than the No. 22 ranked team. People are going to have a hard time defending that team. They make you look a little worse than what you are."

On the Onyegbule interception:

"The big defensive end just popped out of a pile and we threw it right to him. It was unfortunate and not the way that you want to start out the second half. We turned around and fought back after that which is a good sign."

On scoring first:

"The first drive was the product of a big play and we need more of those. We did start well; we hung in there and played some good defense."

Poll
A quarter of the way through the season how are you feeling about the Kansas Jayhawks football prospects.
Confident - this is typical for our teams and they will continue to improve and win the North.
34 votes
Wish it was better - just don't see us beating the best of the Big12 and we'll be in a dogfight for the North.
40 votes
Cautious - haven't been crisp yet and we're going to be in a tough spot in key games against Tech, Nebraska and Missouri.
25 votes
Disappointed - Too many mistakes, and not enough there to say we have what it takes to win the North at this point.
4 votes

103 votes | Poll has closed

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Whitlock

1) The idea of that one making fat jokes about anyone else (“Mangino huffed”) is astounding in its hypocrisy.

2) I love how there’s “something wrong with us” when we give up meaningless yards in a blowout, but apparently Mizzou is just golden when they should have lost to Bowling Frickin Green.

3) I’ll grant him this: he may have a point about the team’s maturity. They have let up at certain parts so far this season on both sides of the ball. But we’ve still won these games in blowout fashion, so I’m not ready to say the sky is falling at all.

4) As far as Whitlock “choosing” to follow Mizzou over us, my reaction is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBfYQOSSPqc

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Sep 20, 2009 11:00 AM CDT reply actions  

he's a douche

I actually like him and I defend him often, but it seemed to me that he was reaching for anything to make a point against KU. Yeah, we didn’t look great but DOOK had some real talent on the D-Line and they ran a solid scheme against us. In a way it was nice because it exposed some weaknesses in our protection. But, I certainly don’t feel KU is in dire straights.

Something is wrong with Whitlock.

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by labbadabba on Sep 20, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Had to choose the 3rd option,

but it was close with “Wish It was better”.

Dogfights are ahead and possibly an ass-kicking for someone in the title game.

I used to work with an old man that told me. Son, every workplace has a dumbass, if you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.

by Warden11 on Sep 20, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Overall

We are doing fine. No perfect game but we have guys stepping up every week. Todd should have had 450 passing yards if not for a couple of dropped balls. How about that one handed catch by Toben! Sure did get my blood pumping. So did Kerry Meier laying out for that TD!

Haven’t seen MU yet but Nebraska is good but not great. So in the North it will be a battle but we will be in it. My concern is after watching UT and TTU go at each other. They are much more aggresive defensively than we are and we will need to develop some of that right quick. Would like to see some of our corners play tighter on short downs. Otherwise, those could be ugly games. Still considering all that, we are fine and we should get better. Will be interesting to see how we do against Southern Miss as they were getting beat pretty bad by UV and still came back to win.

by eastcoasthawk on Sep 20, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought about D aggressiveness too while watching the UT/TT game

But then I reminded myself: these two teams completely opened the playbook. That was a must-win game for both.

KU, on the other hand, is still playing a bit vanilla on D. I think we’ve seen a total of 1 corner blitz this entire season.

Sawin' wood

by Rivethead on Sep 21, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

One thing I continue to see

is that our DB’s are not aggressive up front. With 5 DB’s are CBs need to press. We’re still playing 8 yards off the ball and WRs are still getting a free release off the ball. Can’t freaking stand it. I’m still not a fan of Bowen…someone change my mind.

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by labbadabba on Sep 20, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Has nothing to do with his coaching, but

Players recruited to Kansas by Clint Bowen:
Jake Sharp, Tanner Hawkinson, Darius Parish, Daymond Patterson, Lubbock Smith, Duane Zlatnik, Prinz Kande, Huldon Tharp, Quintin Woods, Keeston Terry – just to name the important ones.

I agree, though, on the corners playing so far off the ball. One day, they will learn. We would have won in Lincoln three years ago if they could have figured it out back then…

lol can't have a CKC without KC - Nicholai Khabibulin (LN21)

by Andy Edwards on Sep 20, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice point on recruits

The thing about the playing off the ball is an interesting topic. It can’t be as easy as, just play closer to the receiver. There has to be a reason that we don’t do it ya know

by I need more Esteban on Sep 20, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

We don't have CBs who are experienced and confident enough to be shut-down corners yet

And thus our coaches play them with a bit of cushion. This gives them an extra second to make decisions.

And I still don’t think Thornton is a corner………..

Sawin' wood

by Rivethead on Sep 21, 2009 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Another link

Denver – You might want to check out Martin Manley’s column, Upon Further Review – A big 12 Overview (or something like that, new post for 9/20). It uses the objective standards of the betting line from LV. The cliff notes from the last table:

1. KU & NU are playing better than expected (10ish ppg better than the line after being expected to be 20ish ranked team at the begining of the season)
2. MU & TTech have not declined nearly as much as expected (10ish ppg better than the line after being expected to fall well outside the rankings at the begining of the season)
3. The rest of the Big12 is average or worse wrt expectations.

It will be interesting to see how the buggers do at Farrot Field in a couple weeks.

I thoroughly agree with your analysis. It is far from perfect, but the trend is in the right direction, and the schedule plays to our favor. Next week is the next test, and a little more challenging than the last. It’s all about building to week 7, and then maintaining at least that level of play thru early January.

by dagger108 on Sep 20, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions  

thanks for the pointer on Manley's column....

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Sep 20, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I voted for the second one, wish it would have been better one

So thats accurate and anyone who didn’t vote that way is dumb

by Andrew Clark on Sep 20, 2009 4:39 PM CDT reply actions  

INCREDIBLE argument....

I hope you are in Law school because the way you’ve just laid out the facts and evidence in favor of your position is simply amazing. A lesson for all. : )

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Sep 20, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh and in all seriousness

I kind of like the fact we haven’t really played all that well yet are still easily going through these teams. They suck (the other teams) sure, and it can be maddening to watch (I broke stuff during the first half of the Puke game) but man…back in the day when I was nary but a lad, if we played poorly we probably would have lost to UTEP and had a dogfight with puke. So yeah, if we can find our mojo soon we can start to click clack teams.

by Andrew Clark on Sep 20, 2009 4:43 PM CDT reply actions  

absolutely agree...

I was thinking that yesterday as well…when I was going to school our team would have likely lost to UTEP and maybe even Duke. At the very least we would never have gone into those games such big favorites with little to be seriously concerned about.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Sep 20, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

The thing that has me smiling the most:

Our LBs!!! An area that was supposed to be our biggest concern is actually looking strong to me. Foster, Tharp, Dudley, Wright, Springer all had either TFLs or sacks.

The thing that has me frowning the most:

Our WRs!! An area that was suppsoed to be our biggest stregth is actually looking weak to me. Drops, routes that are not sharp, and WRs that can’t get open are driving me crazy!

And that’s why I love College football! You’d never find big surprises like this at the pro level.

Sawin' wood

by Rivethead on Sep 21, 2009 8:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Both good points....

Tharp is going to be a VERY good linebacker in the Big12 when it’s all said and done.

and yes…the WR’s not getting open, and also dropping passes is puzzling so far. Things don’t get any easier the rest of the way.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Sep 21, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Have you noticed

that defenses are playing us differently now. Used to be, they’d line up then we’d line up, Warriner would take a look then every KU player on the field would turn around and get the call. Now, defenses are staying in a huddle and disguising their looks just prior to the snap count which prevents Warriner from making adjustments at the last second.

Do we think Todd should be able to audiblize a bit or still leave it to Warriner?

BREAKING NEWS!!!!
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that Michael Jackson's funeral was better!!!

by labbadabba on Sep 21, 2009 9:00 AM CDT reply actions  

well if anyone is ready to do that it would be him….if it were me as the OC though, I’d run a very hurried up offense if they wanted to hang around in a huddle all day and disguise their coverage. They can disguise all the want while I’m keeping them on their heels. We saw a little bit of that when we went to that funky formation last week. Also have heard we have at least one other new formation that we would have shown but it needed Sharp back their so it had to wait.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Sep 21, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really think

we need to get the no-huddle going more. In the 2nd quarter, there was a drive where we finally really started moving the ball and it was when we were running the no huddle. There was a long pass play, then we hurried up to the line and ran the ball which went for like 8 or more yards and we just looked like we had the D on their heels. I don’t see why we aren’t running it more, in 2007 didn’t we run it a lot of the time?

by I need more Esteban on Sep 21, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not having Biere in the O

also limits the formations we can run. I fully expect us to utilize the TE during Big 12 play. We need another Derek Fine in our O. Biere can be that, I believe.

Sawin' wood

by Rivethead on Sep 21, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

74 votes

that’s a lot of lurkers…

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