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Mark Mangino Doesn't Really Trust Kale Pick

Dugan Arnett, in a feature not brought out nearly enough over at KU Sports, released a recent Football Notebook. Hidden amidst news of Justin Thornton moving back to safety (a move that we'll address in further detail sometime soon), the health of Vernon Brooks and the fact that JUCO transfer Daniel Porter is seeing significant snaps with the second team, making him a viable candidate to backup Jake Sharp, there was a seemingly meaningless snippet -- Kerry Meier will still take snaps with the quarterbacks. It won't be a lot, and it will decline from the past couple of years, but it's still meaningful.

Now, this has just about nothing to do with Kerry Meier and his potential production at wide receiver. He's a bright kid, and he'll be able to perform at wideout this year just as he has in year's past. And any practice for him at wide receiver is beneficial, because he is still relatively new to the position, and still (I'm sure) learning new stuff every day. With that being said, there is still a reason to worry.

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Mark Mangino doesn't trust Kale Pick. For that matter, he doesn't trust Jordan Webb or Christian Matthews, both true freshmen, or Chase Knighton or Jacob Morse, both walk-ons. For separate reasons, that makes sense, as you don't really want to entrust your offense, particularly one so dependent on incredible quarterback play, to either a true freshman or walk-on. Now, redshirt freshman isn't really high on the list, either, but Kale Pick was a good recruit. No Blaine Gabbert or nothing, but he did originally commit to Arkansas, who at least likes to believe that have a long, prosperous football history, and he was expected to be the backup starting this season. He had last year to learn the ropes, all of that good stuff -- now it was time for him to step up, see some garbage time action (which he'll probably still see), take the next step developmentally and be ready to adequately replace Hot Toddy in 2010.

That was the plan, at least. And while it's too early to sound the alarm quite yet, it remains disconcerting that, at least in Mangino's mind, he hasn't taken that step to "trusted backup". Just like the saying goes, you have to walk before you run. This was Kale Pick's big moment to take those first couple of steps. The parents had seen their baby make progress for awhile now, and this was to be the big day, the big moment that this cute, little baby would start walking towards his dad. The video camera was out, the friends were over hovering behind the couch, the mom and dad were making all of the baby noises and squeaks and squeals to try and urge him on. But, instead, he fell to the ground.

It's kind of like that. It isn't like it was a once-in-a-lifetime deal, as both the metaphorical baby and the real-life Kale Pick will have plenty of other chances to begin walking and, hopefully sooner rather than later for good ol' Kale, running. But it's something to keep an eye on.

If Kale can't take the necessary steps, we're in trouble in 2010. That goes without saying. Hopefully, after a few good game-week performances running the scout team, or whatever, and some solid (or stellar?) garbage action against Northern Colorado -- and hopefully another school or two in the non-con --, he can become a full-fledged backup. Then, he won't have to take multiple steps just to get to a necessary point to start next season.

There are some positives, though, as well. For one, because of Kerry's unique situation where, while still officially being listed as the backup QB he'll only see handfuls of snaps a practice, Kale should still see the regular amount of snaps in practice a backup quarterback would take. So, the opportunity to get better is certainly there. And for two, it is kind of like those metaphorical parents had triplets -- there's also Jordan Webb and Christian Matthews that could, conceivably, be ready next season, along with those aforementioned walk-ons, Knighton and Morse.

Of course, maybe I'm just reading way too far into it. Maybe Pick is doing super in practice, he just gives Mangino the weebie-jeebies. Or, maybe this is all a psychological ploy, and Pick is ready. Who really knows, unless you're Mark Mangino (who I am certainly not). But, whatever the case, I just hope someone, anyone, will be ready to replace Reesing by next season. It will probably be Pick. And if it is, he'll have to take a step or four forward.

Enough worry about 2010, though. Let's go back to the season at hand.

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This was Kale Pick’s big moment to take those first couple of steps.

Or it was his first try to ride a bike, and Mangino just gave him training wheels.

I really have no problem with this. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Meier took snaps there last year, why mess with it? What would he really gain by not spending a little time at QB? If it helps him be a better receiver, I’m all for it. Will Mangino really think that 10% of snaps qualifies Meier as a backup? I hope not. I won’t worry about this until next year.

And if Reesing gets hurt, we know who to blame.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Aug 22, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Kale Pick

I think you are reading way too much into it. Kerry Meier is a guy who could be starting at QB for several Big 12 schools right now. (Think ksu, CU, ISU and KU if Reesing was not tht stud he is) If Reesing goes down why would you want to bring in a red shirt freshman when you have a guy on the squad who has started and performed well at this level before? This has a chance to be a special year. This is a year you go for it. I have no doubt that Kale Pick is a talent and is going to be a really fine QB for KU in the future, but if push comes to shove, you go with the known guy like Meier.

by Dalhawk on Aug 22, 2009 11:45 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree there.

And if Reesing were to get a long-term injury, no doubt MEier would be the eventual replacement.

But still — it would be nice, if just for his confidence, for him to be named the backup QB.

I do think I am reading too much into it, though. I wanted to put something up on here, though, and it stuck out. Hopefully more meaningful things will be discussed in the near future. Like in Denver’s posts.

by rockchalk on Aug 23, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, at least we’re talking about this.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Aug 23, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good to see you back rockchalk.

I think this is more relevant to Mangino being an old school, conservative coach who always wants experienced depth. He has Kerry taking a few snaps behind center just for insurance. The important thing for Mangino is always the current year, not the future, so he’s just making sure Meier is ready in case of the worst case scenario. I don’t think it’s a diss of Pick so much as Mangino wants choices available in case Todd is unavailable.

by hunter s. royal on Aug 23, 2009 1:27 AM CDT reply actions  

It’s hard to be too down on a guy before he’s taken a snap at the college level, so I can see the ‘making too much of this’ side of the argument. But I would tend to concur with hunter’s premise that Mangino is simply not ready to be comfortable with inexperienced depth.

by JayhawkTom on Aug 23, 2009 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Count me in the group...

…that thinks rockchalk read way too much into Coach Mangino’s comments. If he would have said that Mangino doesn’t “completely” trust Kale Pick I probably would have been okay with that because I think there is some truth in that. But to imply he doesn’t trust him at all (that’s how the blog read to me) is a bit extreme.

Until we see Pick perform in a game, it makes perfect sense for the coaching staff to involve Meier at least a little in the QB reps. Should Reesing go down, the coaching staff wants all options on the table. Divorcing Meier completely from the QB position weakens one of those options.

by KU_Lew on Aug 23, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

yes -

we had a brief discussion about this on an earlier article.

If I were a drag queen, I'd go out as a Sarah Palin look-alike and title my character 'Miss Information.'

by labbadabba on Aug 23, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets not forget

That Kerry himself as well as pundits have said several times that his playing QB has helped him a ton at WR, as far as where to go if a play breaks down, route running, etc. I say sprinkling him some QB reps can’t be a bad thing at all given that, or our worst case scenario of Todd getting hurt.

by Andrew Clark on Aug 23, 2009 11:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Coach Mangino has said that as well

Last year Mangino said something like “I’m not sure Kerry would benefit from 100% practice time at WR. Having some snaps at QB keeps him sharp”.

I know it’s weird and not traditional, but I think Kerry is getting snaps at QB for the purpose of being a better WR, not necessarily for being the #2 QB.

Sawin' wood

by Rivethead on Aug 24, 2009 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

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