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Kansas Postional Previews: Offensive Line

Jeremiah Hatch will be expected to lead a fairly inexperience group of Kansas offensive lineman in 2009.

Jeremiah Hatch will be expected to lead a fairly inexperience group of Kansas offensive lineman in 2009.

Once again an area of change in the 2009 season will be the offensive line.  With that in mind change isn't always a bad thing.  2008 saw its struggles for the Jayhawks in the trenches.  Two redshirt freshman tackles and an interior that didn't quite anchor things the way they were expected to.

With a new year only one position will remain the same although two of the names in the starting lineup will.  Jeff Spikes a redshirt sophomore out of Ohio will retain his position as the right tackle after making the move from the left side to the right during the middle of last season.  During the preseason of 2008 Spikes was praised for his footwork, size and potential to be the next great Kansas left tackle.  Obviously that didn't pan out for the time being as he was moved to the right where he was serviceable but will be looked upon to step it up in 2009.  At 6'6" 314 Spikes did earn himself 3rd team freshman all America honors so others see it in him; it's just a matter of consistency at this point.

Jeremiah Hatch will be the other familiar name on the offensive line starting the season, and after playing fairly well out of position at left tackle he'll move back to the interior and his natural position of center.  At 6'3" 311, center is where Hatch played in high school earning all state honors at Carter high school in Dallas Texas.  While he was a 2nd team selection on the freshman all America team at tackle, his leadership and talent will be a welcome boost to the interior and hopefully an improved running game.

Moving beyond these two familiar faces, we'll be seeing a whole lot of new ones and while some positions are up in the air others seem to be a little more decided.

Complete Positional Breakdown After the Jump...

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Continuing the preview, we'll look at the contenders for the starting spots in the trenches.  Starting from the left side where a converted tight end in Tanner Hawkinson will look to make an astronomical leap from freshman tight end redshirting  and earning his stripes on the scout team, to starting at one of the most important positions on the field left tackle.  One thing is clear about Hawkinson and that is that he is a pretty good football player.  As a junior he was an all state tight end and as a senior he was an all state defensive lineman.  He tried out both as a redshirt freshman at Kansas.  In the spring the decision was made to move him to tackle and he's done a job in adding weight and getting up to 6'6" 285, so size is not as big a concern as it once was.  I have also been told by a peer of his that the footwork and athleticism everyone talks about with him are very legit strengths, but he still will have to polish up on the fundamentals of the position. This is definitely a big area of concern for some and hopefully this year we aren't making a switch four games in as we did last year.

Moving to left guard currently listed on the depth chart is Carl Wilson.   Wilson is a 6'4" 292 pound junior out of California.  Wilson was a fairly highly regarded recruit and has the size to go along with three years in the system as an advantage.

The guy that will be pushing him in a big way is "Big" John Williams.  If you haven't seen pics of this guy yet, look for them because he's a large man.  Williams is listed at 6'4" 309 but he looks even bigger.  He was an all state selection in Oklahoma as a senior and redshirted last fall.  For a guy his size Williams is reported to have good agility and excellent flexibility and strength.  In spring ball he as apparently fairly dominant on the offensive line and I think there is a strong possibility we see him take the starting role at some point.

Jumping to the right side the listed starter at the moment is another junior in Rockhurst high school product Sal Capra.  Capra is an interesting story in my opinion because he arrived in Lawrence as an unheralded linebacker recruit but has tacked on 60 pounds and made himself into a contributor on the offensive line.  Last season Capra filled in as the first man off the bench at both guard spots and saw action in every game proving a very reliable presence at times.  I think there is a strong possibility Capra pulls this spot out due to his experience and the fact he has earned the trust of the staff, but he will be pushed for time.

The other contender on the right side is another redshirt freshman Trevor Marrongelli.  If any of you remember the movie "The Program" back in the 90's, he reminds me of "moose" without the squirrely hair.   Standing 6'4" 285 pounds Marrongelli was said to have a nasty streak by one of the assistant coaches when he was recruited.  Now after a season in the system, word is he is pushing for that starting spot at right guard.

One other player that may be in the mix on the interior is Brad Thorson.  Thorson is a 6'3" junior who transferred in from Wisconsin last season.  He was the backup center at Wisconsin as a redshirt freshman and is a very solid option as a potential backup or even starter on the Jayhawk offensive line this year.

Another interesting story on the offensive line this season is the move of Darius Parish from defensive tackle to offensive line.  Early on he has been working at tackle but it wouldn't surprise me to see him at guard as well.  Parish is a 6'4" 314 pounder who again like Williams looks much bigger.  He definitely has trimmed down a bit this season and looks much stronger but I'd still think he might end up playing larger than 314.  This is an intriguing move in a lot of ways and as we learned from media day coach Mangino has felt Parish is an offensive lineman all the way. 

Other upperclassman competing on the line beginning with the tackles are Jose Rodriguez a 6'6" 293 pound senior who has seen limited action in his career.  Ian Wolfe a 6'5" 295 pound junior who I think everyone keeps wondering what's going on here.  Interestingly a transfer in Mike Martinovich is running second team at left tackle behind Hawkinson and the 6'4" 270 pound transfer from Air Force last season must be impressing somebody to be able to suplant 2 guys who have a much more prototypical tackle size.

Others competing at guard include Alex Smith a Kansas product who as a junior has played primarily a scout team role throughout his career.  Also returning is Joe Semple a walk on out of Illinois who had several division one offers but chose a preferred walk on slot with the hawks.

Newcomers to this unit are Gavin Howard, Riley Spencer and Tom Mabry.

Spencer is a local product out of Hesston Kansas and has done a tremendous job of physically preparing himself working his way up from a fairly low playing weight his senior season in high school to a listing at 6'7" 290, although I've heard he has surpassed 300.  Spencer has tremendous size, is a smart player and has great work ethic.  I'd imagine we'll see a redshirt but in the future he could anchor one side or the other as a very viable option.

Gavin Howard is another big kid standing 6'6" 295 pounds and while not much has been said at this point in regards to his progress he is an agile guy with size and would also project as a tackle somewhere down the line with the Jayhawks.  I think it's a strong possibility that before it's all said and done both Howard and Riley could be bookends for a pretty good o-line group someday with the Jayhawks.

Last but not least is Tom Mabry who is a bit of a mystery at this point.  The 6'5" 280 pounder comes to Kansas from Illinois where he was recruited personally by Ed Warriner.   This is someone he was reportedly very high on and recruiting very early on so you'd have to believe there is something to him.  Much like the others I don't expect him to be an immediate impact as it is very difficult for any offensive lineman to do, but I do think he'll be a valuable player on the roster 2-3 years from now.

That wraps up the hogs in the trenches.  Lot's of new names, new positions and not a lot of answers yet.  However, as I've contended from the beginning, while we are replacing a lot it is being replaced with guys who have a higher ceiling.  I know the saying goes potential means you haven't proven anything and I agree completly, but there are reasons to be optimistic about the future of this unit.  I just hope it comes together for the present.

Poll
Who would you like to see starting at the Guard positions in 2009
Capra, Wilson
11 votes
Capra, Williams
14 votes
Marrongelli, Wilson
1 votes
Marrongelli, Williams
18 votes
Other, please explain in the comments
4 votes

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One of the things I want to see out of the LT position

is more enthusiasm ala Anthony Collins in 2007. After a TD or a great play, AC was almost always the first kid down the field to congratulate the RB or WR – lifting him off the ground, chest bumpin them to the ground, etc. – the kid was excited and that enthusiasm spread to the rest of the line.

Granted personally plays a big part in that, but we didn’t see the same level of enthusiasm in 2008. Hopefully Tanner will be the type of kid to really get reved up and excited.

I’m still wondering how a big kid like AC could get down the field so darn quick….

Sawin' wood

by Rivethead on Aug 13, 2009 7:53 AM CDT reply actions  

I remember that about AC as well...

it also seemed like at the end of the game he was the last guy to get off the field, he really seemed to enjoy it. Now I don’t know much about Tanner’s personality but judging from interviews I’m not sure it’s in his nature, but I do think that Hatch has it in him and this is his unit in my opinion so maybe he’ll provide some of that spark you are looking for.

On the topic of Anthony Collins, I’ve been following the preseason reports on the Cincy blog here and as of now he’s slated to start which is great to hear. They still talk about his game against Pittsburgh last year when he finally broke into the lineup and was pretty damn good.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Aug 13, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

We'll get to watch a lot of AC on HBO's Hard Knocks

If I were a drag queen, I'd go out as a Sarah Palin look-alike and title my character 'Miss Information.'

by labbadabba on Aug 13, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

damn...forgot about that...

is there anywhere to watch that besides HBO

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Aug 13, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure if you can watch replays online

but that would be the only place that I could think of.

If I were a drag queen, I'd go out as a Sarah Palin look-alike and title my character 'Miss Information.'

by labbadabba on Aug 13, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

doubt it

no advertising means they need people to pay, they do release dvds eventually

by I need more Esteban on Aug 13, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Could it be

that we want a slightly smaller, more athletic presence at LT do deal with Big XII calibur speed rushers?

One thing I’ve noticed from our line, often in the spread we’re going on a silent count so what ends up happening the tackles are watching the guards for the snap and the guards are watching the ball. With a good DE who has timed the snap a LT doesn’t have a chance. Is there a way to address this?

If I were a drag queen, I'd go out as a Sarah Palin look-alike and title my character 'Miss Information.'

by labbadabba on Aug 13, 2009 9:52 AM CDT reply actions  

it's an overall trend actually...

that has been discussed on other sites regarding the left tackle position in college football.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Aug 13, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is the trend

having to do with smaller LT’s

.or.

OT’s being beat off the end since the DE has a better look at the snap than does the OT?

If I were a drag queen, I'd go out as a Sarah Palin look-alike and title my character 'Miss Information.'

by labbadabba on Aug 13, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Smaller LT's...

I think the theory is they are better equipped to handle the new hybrid OLB/DE against the pass rush that the likes of Texas have been moving toward of late.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Aug 13, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

You have to look at our run and pass game as well

Case in point – we run a lot of screens were having mobile offensive lineman is a must. Also, our run game with Jake Sharp depends on a lot of speed option and toss plays, for which having a mobile line is also a must. In general, unless you use a pro-style spread like OU, you want a little more agility and mobility out of your o-line than was needed 5 years ago.

by 2.1 seconds left on Aug 13, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

also goes back to Rivet's statement up top...

Collins was the big prototypical tackle but he did always leave you wondering how a guy his size could move so well.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Aug 13, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well once again in the early going youth seems to be winning out although it's close....

my vote went to the Capra, Williams duo.

My feeling is that Capra earned himself a shot with his steady play off the bench last year and his knack for being consistent is important to our success. I almost feel like too much youth at one time could be a bad thing.

Williams on the other hand, I want him in there. I feel like he’s been being groomed for this since last season and the he’s a four year starter type guy with his physical mold and strength.

Nothing against Carl Wilson or Trevor Marrongelli but I just feel like this combo to start the season is the best move both for the near term and the long term.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Aug 13, 2009 10:17 AM CDT reply actions  

my vote went the same way

and I agree with your explanations as well. Familiar names are always nice and you’ve made me a believer in John Williams, sounds like he’s got the size to be an NFL guy if he can put it all together.

by I need more Esteban on Aug 13, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you referring to the Capra/Wilson

voters?

If I were a drag queen, I'd go out as a Sarah Palin look-alike and title my character 'Miss Information.'

by labbadabba on Aug 13, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

well there are clearly 3 in the running and at one time they all had six votes....

Capra Wilson…

Capra Williams…

Marrongelli Williams

I just wondered what everyone elses line of thinking was that’s all, not saying there is a right or wrong answer but seemed like potential for a good discussion point.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Aug 13, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I voted

Marrongelli/Williams. With the addition of Hatch in the interior, that’s 950lbs in the middle. Even Gilbert Brown would struggle against that. Let’s just hope that a Hatch/Williams double team is enough to handle Suh.

If I were a drag queen, I'd go out as a Sarah Palin look-alike and title my character 'Miss Information.'

by labbadabba on Aug 13, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

If those three were to make up the middle and produce…I think I will change my avatar to a pic of the three with the headline…“The Earthmovers”

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Aug 13, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

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