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An Underrated Problem: Left Tackle

Coming into this season, there seems to be two primary problems that preseason magazines are focusing on: interior line play and linebackers. This makes sense, of course, as we lost all 6 starters in those two positions. However, there are more than just two potential holes on this team. This week, we'll be documenting all of these "mini-issues", if you will, spending today on the issue of Left Tackle. This week is shorter than the past ones, but to make up for it tomorrow's (the mini-series finale) should be the longest yet.

Why It's a (Potential) Problem

This one's a little different. While the first two installments of this mini-series (part 4, the series conclusion, is tomorrow, where we'll take a look at the defensive line) have tended to focus more on positions where the players are up on the air, this one has a clear-cut favorite. It isn't a certainty, mind you, but it appears to be Tanner Hawkinson's job to lose. If he plays terribly in August, he won't start the season there. But, he certainly has a lead.

It's also a little different because I think most people consider this to be a concern. Maybe even a bigger one than the interior of the line, considering, as Denver said, there is oodles of talent there. Including last year's LT, Jeremiah Hatch. This time around, we are asking a player who was both a tight end and defensive end last year to bulk up, gain 30-some-odd pounds, and stop the best rushers the league has to offer. Uh-oh.

So, even if it is acknowledged, I don't think it is as acknowledged as much as it should be. The spread offense needs a bounty of eligible receivers to truly be successful, and keeping in a tight end or a running back to help out your offensive line takes one target away from Todd Reesing. Even chipping them off the line takes them off of their route, which costs valuable seconds to get open.

To put it mildly: yeah, I'm worried. Don't get me wrong - I absolutely love Tanner Hawkinson. He might have been my favorite incoming recruit last year, and I was sure he was the 'next big thing' in the passing game at tight end. His career since stepping foot on campus has gone nothing like I expected. I thought it'd be him, not Tim Biere, seeing frequent action as a freshman. If not, he'd at least be the longterm solution.

Not so much. Now, he's playing a more important position, quicker than he probably would have at tight end. And it's a position he's never played before, as opposed to his high school experience at both tight end and defensive end.

I don't have to go over why having a shaky left tackle isn't good for a football team. If you've been watching football long at all, you know that. So, Tanner, we're depending on you. But if you blow it, all hope is not lost.

Basically, though.

The Potential Solutions

As the opening illustrates, it's all about Hawkinson, baby. At least, that's the vibe I be gettin'. If he slips up, Ian Wolfe and Jose Rodriguez are fighting for the backup spot, but they appear to be quite similar players, with similar upsides and stuff, so we'll talk about them at the same time, pretending as if they are one person. Beyond that, there isn't a whole lot left. It's either untested and raw (Riley Spencer and Gavin Howard), or been-there-done-that (Jeff Spikes), or worse. So, no real need to hash those names out. If we're at that point, we're almost assuredly in trouble.

Names start after the jump.

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Tanner Hawkinson (rsFresh.)

Yes, we're going back here. Already. He's already up to 260, which while painfully tiny for a left tackle, is a substantial improvement on the 230 he was carrying in high school. That's 30 pounds, folks. That's a lot. And, I'm pretty sure the official roster hasn't been updated since the Spring Game. That was back in April, people. Which was, like, 3 months ago. Think of all the potential weight gains in 3 months! Seriously, though, last I heard he was up to 275. Which, while on the light side, is big enough to get by, particularly in this speed-heavy college football world we're living in these days.

I've actually never seen this person in real life, so this is where I pretend to know what I'm talking about when I truly have no clue. I have confidence in Tanner. I'm sure he's capable of doing a good job. Maybe even a great job. And from what I've read, if he takes to the position blah blah blah, he may even have an NFL future ahead of him. But, that's entirely too far away. Right now, I just hope he can take on the best UTEP has to offer. Honest.

Ian Wolfe/Jose Rodrigues (rsJr./rsSr.)

Am I the only person who always assumed Wolfe to be black? But that's neither here nor there.

What does matter, though, is that Wolfe and Rodrguez are probably capable fill-ins. Replacement level type of guys, if you will; good enough to come in and not entirely screw up the game, but whoever played  would most certainly need help over there. They would be fine as a backup, for depth purposes and such, but hopefully Hawkinson takes to the position well.

While Tanner has the potential, from what I've read, to be a star there, I'm not seeing the same stuff with Wolfe. Like I said, he could do a passable job, but not one that you really want to settle for.

So, the Solution Is...

The same solution you expected. If you want to be optimistic about this, like at all, go for Hawkinson. All the way. Tanner has the potenail to be really, super awesome. But at the same time, given his immense lack of experience, he may be lost out there, at which point the task would fall to Wolfe or Rodriguez. And Wolfe or Rodriguez would probably do all right, but I'd rather not find just exactly how 'all right' it would be.

And yeah, I'm still freaked out. It's tough to quantify too much stuff, which is why this is almost entirely speculation and me repeating myself and it's still miniscule, but hey. It's pretty simple, really, and all boils down to one thing, with two possible outcomes (with varying degrees, of course):

1) Hawkinson lives up to at least some of his potential, learns more every practice, puts on the necessary weight (probably something around 285 would be chunky enough) and plays well enough to free up Biere and the running backs to go out for patterns without getting Todd killed. (Run-on sentence FTW.)

2) Hawkinson struggles picking up the new position, and can't quite nail down the starting gig. Ian Wolfe/Jose Rodriguez plalys OK, not bad not good, in his place. Help is needed all year long.

Let's just hope #1 happens. But, #2 is a real possibility, and if it happens it changes the entire course of our season. I don't think it's getting enough airplay.

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Definitely a great one for discussion, here's my thought...

I have seen Hawkinson in person at a game last year as I was leaving and he was standing outside the stadium…big frame, big kid and you could already tell he wasn’t at the 240 level he showed up at. Reports are he is approaching 280 which certainly is serviceable and in a spread em out offense his lower weight may not even be an issue. Again though, we can have all the confidence in the world but until we see it on the field Hawkinson is an unknown commodity to the outside world.

Here’s one scenario if all goes to hell and Hawkinson can’t pull it off that came to mind the other day. Spikes is now a sophomore and a year under his belt. One could expect he’s improved over last year and maybe a move to LT for him would be doable if needed. Now if, and this is a big if, Lueken is ready to go this year and this move happens we’ve got Ben stepping in at right tackle where he does have experience from last season. Just food for thought, but I don’t know the likelihood of this considering we don’t know Leuken’s status and the staff doesn’t appear overly confident in trying Spikes out at LT ever again.

If I have to pick between Wolfe and Jose, I’ll take Wolfe any day of the week but he’s a guy that puzzles me. He’s from Fort Collins Colorado and was fairly highly thought of coming out of HS. Since then he’s absolutely disappeared which is strange. He’s got the size and potential but there must be more to the story.

I’m with you though that this is big for 2009, Hawkinson needs to pan out and I’m confident he will it’s just a matter of how soon. As a point of reference though Jason Smith who was an All American last year with Baylor and drafted in the top 10 I think was 6’5" 220 coming out of HS and went onto be a great LT. Hawkinson has a similar frame, started out bigger, quicker and faster so there is a lot going for him.

I guess on the bright side of all this is the fact that you have probably the most pocket aware passer we’ve ever seen at Kansas. Reesing can buy time, make guys miss and create plays that many never would dream of so better to break in a new LT with a Senior ready Reesing then next year with a newbie.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jul 9, 2009 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah.

Originally, I just had Wolfe listed, then went back and just added in Jose Rodriguez name along with Wolfe’s because I saw a couple places that Wolfe was working more at RT.

Obviously, that could switch, but that tells me that Rodriguez is at least being considered at LT.

by rockchalk on Jul 9, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

This has been a nagging worry of mine

all off-season, despite Denver’s reassurances.

Also – No ‘An Underrated Problem’ piece for the LBs?

Maybe that’s an overrated problem…

I've got crazy flipper fingers!

by labbadabba on Jul 9, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions  

yep...

I’d say the LB’s and interior line concerns are the two that 99% of the media is focusing their attention on. Rockchalk has done a great job of focusing on other areas that could be real stumbling blocks for us.

As far as my reassurances, I’m not sure I’m the most confident but any confidence I do exude comes likely more from what this group could become on paper than what they’ve shown on the field and as the saying goes, potential means you haven’t proven anything. So reassurances or not, I’m a little worried as well.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jul 9, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

If you pick up Lindy’s or Phil Steele, they’ll harp on two issues, primarily: the linebacker corps and the interior line, because we lost all of our starters from those two positions.

So, I thought it would be fun to look at the other issues this team might have. Obviously, there are probably other ones, but these were some of the bigger ones worth covering IMO.

by rockchalk on Jul 9, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah - that makes sense

that being said, I’m least worried about our interior line and LB’s. We have more than enough athleticism at LB to fill 2 spots and our interior potentially is improved with Hatch moving to C.

Nice work as always RC!!

I've got crazy flipper fingers!

by labbadabba on Jul 9, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually kinda agree with you.

But, with those issues pounded into the ground, I thought covering something else would be more interesting.

Needless to say, we’ll also discuss those two issues at some point. Maybe next week.

by rockchalk on Jul 9, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great stuff

I’m really curious to see how the entire line works out.

Here is what I don’t understand. We had Spikes and Hatch play T last season for an entire season. Why move them now? Why were they there in the first place? It seems all jumbled up to me. Can’t wait till it’s all settled.

by I need more Esteban on Jul 9, 2009 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

That was kind of my thought...

Hatch especially had really come on as a solid LT – that’s why I was so puzzled when he was moved back to his ‘Natural’ position. He seems awfully big to be a center…

I've got crazy flipper fingers!

by labbadabba on Jul 9, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

you think....?

I was thinking at 6’3" the guy screams interior line, who knows he may be shorter than that in reality…anymore the going rate for a left tackle is 6’5" almost at a minimum. The good thing is I think it speaks to how much of a player he could be after showing that he could step out of position and be so effective but he’s hardly ideal for that LT slot if we want to consider ourselves a serious Big 12 team.

I understand the concern of going through the growing pains again with a new LT because last year was painful at times but if you can find some continuity with a line this young, you are in a great position for the next several years.

There I go again…speaking on potential and not realities.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jul 9, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

dogh!

I was thinking he was in the 6’5" range…

That’s what I get for not doing my research…dangit!

I've got crazy flipper fingers!

by labbadabba on Jul 9, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Hatch is a center all the way...

He just doesn’t have the arm length to play outside…which, like Denver said, is why the job he was doing by the end of the year was so impressive.

Loving the series and the discussion rockchalk.

by hiphopopotamus on Jul 10, 2009 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hatch and Spikes

I believe Hatch and Spikes played last year simply because they were the most talented linemen available regardless of position. Coach Mangino basically said “let’s get the best on the field and slot them the best we can”.

Now that we have some more talent, we can move them to positions that better fit their abilities.

I’m very excited about Hatch at center! That kid is gonna run the show and be a steady leader for some guys (Hawkinson, Williams, Marrongelli, etc) still learning their way.

Sawin' wood

by Rivethead on Jul 10, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Last year was just trying to fit the most talented/ready lineman onto the field, then putting them where it would make the most sense.

We have more talent this year, and more lineman ready to play right now, so we can put people more where “they belong”. Hatch at center could be All-Big 12, and there is a bunch of talent at all of the other positions.

by rockchalk on Jul 10, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

You read my mind.

I’m planning on doing a similar series on strengths.

Either next week or the week after.

Hopefully it will balance out the weaknesses. And I’m not trying to be a downer or anything. I think this team can (and will) be really good this year. But, some things will have to go right for that to happen.

by rockchalk on Jul 9, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

no matter what

keep up the good work and hopefully the rest of us can do our part too

by I need more Esteban on Jul 9, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

and a pretty damn good idea rivet...

we’ll have to get this in the mix somewhere soon

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jul 10, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Strengths vs. Weaknesses

I have enjoyed the weaknesses part more as its exposed younger players I didn’t know as much about, while I think our strengths are pretty well known by now and have been the same since the Orange Run (passing game, big playmaker in the secondary, etc).

I also didn’t get why our two Tackles from last year were switched, I was excited for them to play there last year thinking there we got are two tackles of the future getting PT.

It almost seems like this year and last year we put our more experienced linemen at the interior C and G positions, and opted for youth at the two tackle positions, an interesting concept…

by KU Grad 08 on Jul 9, 2009 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I realize he had a nasty fall

But why no mention of Leuken as a possible replacement for T Hawk? He has more game experience than Wolfe and J Rod. Everything I’ve heard is that he’s healthy and ready for full contact in August.

by jayhawk79 on Jul 10, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

If he's healthy and ready to go...

I like our depth much better than when I didn’t know that. Where are you hearing this? That also leaves open the possibility of Spike shifting over and Leuken playing RT if we had to.

Ideally though if Leuken is healthy I like this lineup right here assuming everything turned out as good as could be hoped

Hawkinson, Williams, Hatch, Leuken, Spikes…might be wishful thinking but that is one big, young o-line for the next few years. I think Capra would have something to say about it though, he’ll compete.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jul 10, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heard it through a member of the staff

Didn’t mentions specifics, but that Leuken was training with everyone else and he’s good to go for August (contact). Whether he’s cleared for game action I have no idea.

Spikes at LT didn’t work out so well the first time, so I’d rather give Leuken that opportunity if Hawk isn’t up to it. I’d even feel better about Hatch staying at LT than sliding Spikes over.

by jayhawk79 on Jul 10, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

That’s good news to say the least…and honestly I’d take anyone but Hatch, he’s good but I want him on the interior where he belongs.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jul 10, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had always thought of Lueken as a RT.

Maybe I’m wrong. That, along with the fact that I haven’t heard yet that he’s back practicing yet, is why I didn’t mention him.

But yeah, his talent is definitely intriguing.

by rockchalk on Jul 10, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

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