An Underrated Problem: Kickoff Returner
Coming into this season, there seems to be two primary problems that preseason magazines are focusing on: interior line play and linebackers. This makes sense, of course, as we lost all 6 starters in those two positions. However, there are more than just two potential holes on this team. This week, we'll be documenting all of these "mini-issues", if you will, with today's topic being kick returner.
Why It's a (Potential) Problem
Because field position matters, man. This may seem superfluous as a real "problem", and it probably is. Still, it helps to have a shorter distance to go. Always. Particularly in our offense, where we love nickel-and-diming our way down the field. It makes the offense's job that much easier if, say, we are starting at the 32 every time out, as opposed to the 22.
If you need evidence, just check out the differences between 2007 and 2008. Obviously, much more important things changed between the two seasons, most notably personnel and schedule, but there was also a significant difference in kickoff return yardage. In 2007, the Jayhawks averaged 25.2 yards a return, good enough to rank 7th in the country. Marcus Herford received plenty of accolades for this, and was even the number-one ranked kick returner in the country going into 2008 according to Phil Steele. But he didn't play up to such a high ranking, as we fell all the way to (you won't believe this) 118th in the country. The average kickoff return fell down to 17.5 yards a return, and only Wisconsin was more anemic in returning kickoffs.
And keep in mind, that fantastic finish in 2008 is buoyed by the absolutely fantastic game Dez Briscoe had in Arrowhead against Missouri; 7 returns for an average of 27.9 yards per return. So, Herford's personal numbers are even worse.*
* Now, I don't want to get into the differences between the two years, or why Herford performed so fantastically one season then so putridly the next. I don't really know, but my guess would be the classic small sample size reason. Given how little chances they get, kickoff returners are probably more volatile to small sample size flukes than, say, a running back piling up 30 carries a game. For you baseball fans out there, think of it like some of the sabermetric defensivie stats, like UZR. One year a fielder can be incredible, and the next he can be bad. Likely, said fielder is somewhere in between, but in small doses weird stuff can happen. This was probably the case here, not getting into discussions about the difference in blockers and such.
Subsequently, our offensive production substantially dropped, from nearly 43 points a game in 2007 (2nd in the country) to "only" a little more than 33 points a contest in '08 (28th). Again, it's almost unfair to compare the two seasons there is such a huge difference, but it assuredly had some type of impact.
Here's a nice, cute little table that tells you everything you need to know in a half-second glance:
| Yards per kickoff return | Points per game | |
| 2007 | 25.2 | 43 |
| 2008 | 17.5 | 33 |
It makes a difference, people. So, while it isn't like we're replacing vintage Dante Hall back there, it would still be nice to get a good 'replacement'. And no, Dezmon Briscoe doesn't count as an option.
The Potential Solutions
Man, this is tough. Obviously, if there was no such thing as an injury risk, it would be an easy decision. Dez Briscoe, go back there, have fun, continue dominating, and have fun in the NFL next year.
Beyond him, though, it's a whole mess of names. Daymond Patterson probably has the punt returner job down, but kickoff returner requires more straight-line speed, as opposed to the joystick qualities of a DP. I mean, he could do it, but he probably isn't your first choice. So, I'm just going off of the Spring Game, really. I kind of cop out listing 'The Field' as the last option, but I don't want to just throw out random ones. So, I didn't. If you wanna throw one out, though...I'm all ears.
The list of names after the break.
Dezmon Briscoe (Jr.)
I'm including him, well, because he could do it the best. Depending on the situation, don't be surprised - at all - if he is returning at least a couple of kicks this fall. I'm sure he'll return them well, too. But, and maybe I'm wrong on this one, but I don't see him consistently lining up back there. It just doesn't make too much sense; while kickoff returns and field position are important things, yes, I'd rather have (arguably) the conference's best wide receiver not getting hurt returning kicks.
How often Mangino uses Dez to return the kicks is the wild card of this whole scenario. He could go multiple ways with this one, anywhere from installing Briscoe as the primary returner and sending him out there nearly every time all of the way to only returning when absolutely necessary. Ideally, you can find a returner equally as good, or at least similarly talented, so that Dez can save up energy for wide receiver.
And yes, I realize that this section has been entirely unhelpful. I'm sorry. I'm not Mangino, and I have no idea just how he is planning on using Briscoe in the kicking game. It's certainly fun to talk about, though.
Darrell Stuckey (Sr.)
Just like Briscoe, I highly doubt that we are seeing Stuckey return kickoffs any time soon. Given the choice, I'd prefer Briscoe to return the kicks, ability and everything else being equal - we have quite a few weapons on offense if worse were to come to worse with Dez, but on defense we are woefully short on proven commodities. And, considering that Dez has proven in real game action that he is capable of excelling at such duties, while Stuckey hasn't returned one before, probably means that Briscoe is the better returner.
So, hopefully we won't see #25 back there. Let's just put it that way. Unless, of course, he's awesome. Then, you still probably won't see him.
Isiah Barfield (rsSoph.)
He received the brunt of the work in the Spring Game, along with Darrell Stuckey, so he has to go on here. Really, given the star quality of the other two players, he has to be the odds-on favorite. At least to receive the majority of the kickoffs. The non-essential ones. Barfield's once-promising future at cornerback is pretty much done, now, given the fact he's been moved over to wide receiver. If you wanted a quote to sum up the quick descension:
Played in the first four games of the season, but did not play again until the bowl game against Minnesota...
And yes, he started the third and fourth games of the season (@ South Florida and vs. Sam Houston State). He wasn't the hyped recruit that Marcus Herford was coming into college, but like Marcus he may have to form a niche as a kick return specialist to see the field consistently. Barfield's smaller than Herford, which is probably a good thing; the biggest problem with Herford seemed to be a complete inability to move laterally. He either had a seam and ran through it, or simply ran into an oncoming tackler around the 18. There isn't any video of Barfield returning kicks, but he can't be worse than last year.
Right?
The Field
I thought about putting names here, but really I'd just be pulling them out of my ass. When fall practice starts in a month-or-so, we can try and figure out who is getting practice reps. Until then, we'll leave the guessing alone. We do know that all three of the above names should at least contend for the job, and we should probably be fairly certain that any combination will do better than last year's dreadful performance.
But, I wouldn't bet against the Field on this one, either. There are a handful of guys who are buried on the depth chart but could probably do a halfway decent job here. So, yeah, don't write anybody off, really.
Except Todd. It's probably fairly certain he isn't running back there. Or anyone who has 'line' or 'backer' after their name. Besides that, though. Anything is possible.
So, The Solution Is...
To Be Decided.
Seriously, I almost didn't do this one because there are so few answers. If the Spring Game is any indication, then it will probably be Isiah Barfield, with Dezmon Briscoe or Darrell Stuckey coming in for the most intense games/situations.
Most likely, Briscoe will end up back there more often than I want him there, necessarily. Or more often than I seem to lead on here. He shouldn't be the guy stepping back there in the 4th quarter against Northern Colorado, but if it's close down in El Paso, he'll be back there. As long as he can handle it, and there is enough finger-crossing on the sidelines, I suppose it'd be the best move. It just freaks me out.
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Deshaun Sands
My money is with him. At some point in the season once the coaches learn to trust his hands, we’ll see him there. I think he might just be a poor man’s Darren Sproles
I've got crazy flipper fingers!
Another Freshman that I could see filling this role...
McDougald…known as a playmaker, here to play out of the slot position…seems like a fit maybe
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Can definitely see a freshman...
getting a shot at the KR role. Either one of the incoming WR’s (McDougald comes to mind with me as well) or an incoming d-back. I don’t know if Dexter Linton did any kick returning in high school but it sounds like he’s got the speed for it (4.4).
Completely agree...
I don’t want Briscoe back there…it was necessary against Missouri but I don’t want him back there unless it’s the last game of the season again.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Oh and I definitely agree with rockchalk
I would like to see the KU coaching staff exhaust all options at KR before putting Briscoe back there. Nothing against Briscoe, I just don’t like the added risk of injury to a key part of the offense.
Crawford
I know hes packed his bags, but I think I remember him getting a little pt at KR in the oklahoma game (that my girlfriend and I drove down to and back in the same day. Yikes-at least she got to sleep). Too bad he is gone I would have seen some good KR potential in him. What about one of our WR who have had some PT, such as T. Ingram or R. Pendleton (who was our PR early last year and had that return for six and the tounglashing from Magino afterwards).
You HOT DOGGING!
Minor Correction
Pendleton returned punts in 2007 but not 2008. It was pretty much Patterson’s job from the start last year.
That said, it’s plausible that Pendleton could be a candidate for the KR role this year. However, I think we would have seen him in that role late last season if he was worthy.
Well done again rockchalk
love the topic, it’s one I was exploring getting into but it was kind of difficult to get started so I’m glad you did.
Briscoe- Don’t see it being his job but definitely see big time situations him going back there. In fact, unless someone establishes themselves as a reallly good option, I think we will see him in big games in big situations.
Stuckey – Don’t like this at all
Barfield – definitely a possibility, don’t know a whole lot about him but if he finds a niche with this, it could be good.
Sands – Small, fast with loads of potential. This would be a great opportunity for Sands to see the field as a freshman, possibly transitioning him to get some carries later in the season.
McDougald – I like the chances of this more than Sands. He is a highly touted WR/RB/CB prospect who was thought to be going to Ohio St. Kid played basketball too, just an athlete. If he could get the KR duties on lock then I see him definitely seeing the field every 3rd play at WR and trying to provide a spark, a la Daymond Patterson early last season. He’s got to be my favorite choice personally.
Rell Lewis – Why not this guy? He’s got good speed and is a former WR and QB. With knowledge of that many positions I would think he would be a good decision maker. At most, he’ll be getting 1/2 the carries in our offense, so he’ll be plenty fresh.
Ryan Murphy – This is my wild-card of the group. Murphy is now a SO. and has great speed and quickness. He was a do it all kind of player in high school at Free State and maybe he would have the vision to breakthrough a defense.
by I need more Esteban on Jul 8, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I like nearly all of those names.
Great thoughts, Esty. Particularly McDougald and Ryan Murphy. Both would seem to be great candidates, and Murphy in particular doesn’t have too much of a spot to play otherwise. McDougald, probably, but stuff could change.
So, yeah, I like these ideas.
Kind of off topic but football related.
When is the next important football date? Is there a day practices officially start or something like that? Beginning of KU semester maybe?
by I need more Esteban on Jul 8, 2009 3:11 PM CDT reply actions
Just a guess
but I think practices will start around the week of August 10th. Last year I believe practice started around August 8th.
The first day of class is August 20th.
If kick returner is the 2nd biggest problem,
it will be a good year.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showforum=129
It's not necessarily in order.
Really, I think the biggest issue is defensive line, which we’ll get to on Friday (hopefully).
To be honest, because I’m on “vacation” (really, just back in KC visiting family blah blah blah) I wanted to get some easier topics done first, then try and pound out teh defensive line over a couple days when I can find free time.
Don't worry,
I didn’t read any of it.
WE ARE A BASKETBALL SCHOOL
Still trying to get into the football stuff.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showforum=129
by Warden11 on Jul 9, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Damn it.
You can’t Rec stuff on your phone…
COLORS!!!!!!!!!!
Seeking inspiration to fill this space...
by Andy Edwards on Jul 9, 2009 9:02 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Herford
Seemed slow for some reason…that or he didn’t have great blocking….Every time we returned a kick it seemed like it was palm-to-forehead for me until Crawford and Briscoe took over
I really think it was blocking...
‘07 Hereford had two guys leading the charge that were great blockers in McAnderson and Fine….’08 we had a lot of youth and inexperience on that unit.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Couldn't agree more...
There was hardly a time that Herford even had a chance. Be it punt or kick returns, there was always (at least) one guy in the wrong color jersey running free. I’m hoping with some experience under the belt now, this will be somehwat resolved his year.
by hiphopopotamus on Jul 9, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
It was blocking!
Rockchalk kind of (unfairly IMHO) threw Hereford under the bus in this blog. No B-Mac and Fine being bulldozers is the primary reason for the decline in kickoff return yards.
Prinz Kande?
I was going to suggest this kid, based on his speed and 4 star rating on Rivals alone. But when I went to check the roster on KUSports.com, I noticed he wasn’t on there. Have they simply not updated that yet? Anybody know the story here?
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jul 8, 2009 11:58 PM CDT reply actions
The KUSports.com roster....
doesn’t include anyone that would have gotten here over the summer it’s basically the spring roster. If you go to KUAthletics.com they have a roster with the majority of the incoming guys on it minus those last second JUCO’s like Brooks and Porter.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Oooo
I forgot about Murphey, he was a highly touted recruit ( I think at least one service had him as a 4 star), and was always known to be super quick. I knew a guy who played against the murphy bros in high school and said Ryan was just a blur with the ball in his hands. A solid wildcard choice Esteban
If Dez Briscoe is (arguably) the best WR in the conference....
Then why is OSU’s Dez Bryant getting more pre-season hype?
And OSU doesn’t seem to have a problem using Dez Bryant at KR.
Are we making too much of this?
Rivethead..
first off welcome to RCT glad to have you…
as far as Dez Bryant vs. Dez Briscoe and making to much of the KR thing. Maybe so but I’d still rather a healthy, rested Briscoe take the field after someone else returns the kick.
Thinking back to the Missouri game there were multiple times that Briscoe was not on the opening snap of drives following the return because he was either winded or took a pretty good hit. Especially near the end of games. If we have to we have to, but I just have to think we’ve got enough talent that there is someone else that can fill that role.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
One more thing.......
When you listed “The Field” I initially took that literally…….I thought you were going to say that the new playing surface and removal of the crown in Memorial would add yards to our kick off returns.
Maybe it will!
honestly though...
I played on the old surface a couple of times and it was very forgiving. Nothing like turf of the past…it was basically the original incarnation of the “field turf” trend we are seeing now. Very springy, forgiving and didn’t tear you up at all.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Oh, really?
Obviously, my comment was mostly a joke, based off of what I’ve heard/read/seen on the old NFL artificial surfaces: like Veterans Stadium, etc.
That is good, though. FieldTurf is the shit, though, so I’m still glad we made the switch.
understand completely...
and fortunately memorial stadium wasn’t veterans stadium but regardless of how good the field was you are right, I’m glad we’re making the switch because facilities and upgrades are what keeps the recruits and future players happy.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Still think grass and mudstains
are an essential part of the game…at least to the asthetic…
I've got crazy flipper fingers!
We definitely had the worst field in the league...
and by last year, it wasn’t even close. Between the new turf and getting rid of the hill we called a crown, the players are going to be MUCH happier out there.
by hiphopopotamus on Jul 10, 2009 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions
hopefully...
Todd will still be able to see over the offensive line without the “crown”
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

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