Xavier and CJ Still Jayhawks?
by Owen Kemp on Jun 30, 2009 1:58 PM CDT
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The smoke is thickening and there is most certainly fire surrounding the rumor that both Xavier and CJ Henry may not in fact be headed to Kansas after all. Carl Henry keeps talking to the media and dropping hints about a possible change in the decision and now reports have surfaced Bill Self and Danny Manning are flying to OKC tonight as the Henry's are having second thoughts and honestly I don't think they want to be Jayhawks.
I'm interested to hear what everyone else thinks and I certainly don't have any knowledge other than what's being talked about by other outlets but this is getting a tad ugly. I'd love to have the Henry brothers in the Crimson and Blue next year but I'm getting concerned and starting to think Self might need to draw a line in the sand here. Even if it means playing 09'-10' without the Henry's.
Make no mistake I'm still a big fan of these two and want them in a Kansas uniform but it just seems like they've had ample opportunity and if they still aren't sold something is wrong.
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And, of course,
that link is not to zagsblog.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/06/30/source-stephenson-picks-cincinnati/
That should be better now.
Is the bridge still burning for Lance?
That KC Star article was a little jarring to read…
Not the feel good article we got last year with TyTay….
I've got crazy flipper fingers!
The star article
definitely caught me off guard.
I can't believe how much X was complaining about
going to class. Suck it up you diva. You haven’t done shit yet and already has some sense of entitlement. It’s freshman college courses. They aren’t that hard.
srsly -
And he doesn’t even have to declare a major so its not like he has to take freaking Bio-Chem…
What really rubbed me wrong was Daddy Henry calling out Collins and Taylor – basically saying that both he boys were better, like, now.
But then, we were hearing some of the same stuff shortly before B Rush joined up.
I've got crazy flipper fingers!
Outside of the one comment from the KC Star Article,
how much complaining has he done? It appears that one quote was blown way out of proportion.
This whole thing sounds like a load of crap because his dad can’t keep his mouth shut.
here's a recap of the rumor...
Apparently Carl Henry wants X and CJ and Kansas but when he reopened recruitment X and CJ wanted Calipari and Kentucky. Barbara Henry however said she didn’t want to move to Lexington and X said they’d go to KU to keep the family together. Well recently Barbara decided she didn’t care and X again wanted UK….Carl says he talked them out of it but now he isn’t sure what will happen because they are upset about some of what has been written about them in the KC Star….
Honestly pretty ridiculous ordeal and they might want to consider some thicker skin in the future especially once they get into the NBA and have to deal with expectations.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Owen Kemp on Jun 30, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd if the thing about whats written in the paper is true
it’s not like Bill Self writes for the Star, wtf
by I need more Esteban on Jun 30, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
they?
I don’t think CJ is going to see the NBA :)
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get a full recap of everything. It sounds like they are still coming, but they are mad about the way the article portrayed them.
Not completely sure why KC Star article is having this kind of impact.
I understand why Carl might be upset with the context of his comments/actions as described in the KC Star article, but what I’m having trouble understanding is why the article would make the Henrys not want to play for KU. If you’re not happy with the article, then blackball the reporter and don’t talk to him ever again. Don’t take out your frustration on Coach Self and the program. Self had nothing to do with the article. KU fans had nothing to do with the article.
This biotch needs to get slapped. You’re not bigger than the KU program.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Welcome dt!
And agreed.
Though I have a bigger beef with Daddy Henry right now than the boys…
I've got crazy flipper fingers!
This crap annoys me
I agree with Denver, definitely still want the Henry’s here, but I don’t know if I’ll be too upset if they end up not coming. Be a man (I’m looking at you daddy Henry) and realize where blame should go if you are upset about something.
If your family can’t handle the media then you ARE NOT ready for the NBA. The KC metro media is getting to you? Seriously? Really? How about when you get drafted by the Knicks and the media is all over you in the first week of the season when you start off slow.
I just think this is rediculous and hope it blows over, but if not, we’ll still go to the Final Four, boom!
by I need more Esteban on Jun 30, 2009 4:12 PM CDT reply actions
On behalf of all Mizzou fans...
…you’re doing the right thing, Henrys! :)
All kidding aside, the question becomes whether or not Self and KU even want to deal with these guys. Sure, they’re mega-talented, but character counts, big time. Especially in a program that did pretty darn well last year despite lowered(ish) expectations.
It’s a big risk/reward thing: do you want two exceptionally talented guys who, by these accounts, are flaky? Or do you leave them behind and, while obviously losing some talent, maintain the character and chemistry of your team?
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
Um, I hate doing this.
But I thought the same thing after reading the article. Of course, it may have stretched some of the truth about the family. I don’t know, but I’m not excited about them right now.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
Mizzou kind of (but not really) went through a character dilemma with the mention of maybe nabbing Lance Stephenson
Basically all the discussion was “If CMA actually nabbed NYC High School legend and known me first player/ public groper Lance Stephenson, how would you feel about the team’s chances next year?” Pretty similar situation here. If I were a KU fan, I’d say let these guys leave (Yes I’m a Mizzou fan, but seriously :) ) Even without the super-ultra-mega talent, KU would still be a pre-season #1, obvious pick for the Final Four and still have a good shot at the National Title.
Aside from these 2 guys, it appears that KU’s team chemistry is excellent (as long as some of the guys from last year are OK with possibly taking more backseat roles on the team) Honestly, just like I think Mizzou has a better outlook without that ball hog Lance on the team, I honestly really do think KU could end up better off without guys who don’t want to be at KU or could be locker room cancers. And to (hopefully) prove my point, I’d say there’s a good chance Calipari’s “OMG Super-Ultra Kentucky Championship shoe-in!” team completely destroys itself due to lack of chemistry and real teamwork in the long run (I.E. The epic first round loss to 16 seed Morgan St. that will surely happen to lose silly Wildcats) Ending on that note, good luck to next season, no matter who’s on the team by then!
Eh, my sig needs a little time off
by ratherfantastic on Jun 30, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
EDIT: "to lose silly Wildcats"
*those silly Wildcats
Eh, my sig needs a little time off
by ratherfantastic on Jun 30, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
kusports.com has a statement from HCBS
From the link below:
Kansas University basketballl coach Bill Self today commented to the Journal-World on reports that Xavier Henry and C.J. Henry were having second thoughts about attending KU and still might attend Kentucky.
“I’m still looking into this,” Self said, acknowledging the Henry family was upset about a weekend story in the Kansas City Star that the Henrys felt portrayed the family in a negative light.
“I am ready for the finality of it (on where Henrys are going to school). I believe that will occur very soon,” Self added.
Rivals.com and 610 radio quoted Carl Henry, father of the Henrys, as saying the family would hold a meeting today in Oklahoma City. Rivals said that Self and assistant Danny Manning would be traveling to OKC tonight. Self this afternoon said he was on his way back to his office from a function in KC and did not confirm whether a trip to OKC was in the works.
Self said because of the “article and blogs and people commenting on the article, the family is very upset and concerned about how they’d be treated in Lawrence.”
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/jun/30/carl-henry-family-meet-tuesday-night-discuss-futur/
Sounds to me like
we’ll have this figured out in the next 24-48 hours. I expect something perhaps just short of an ultimatum from HCBS, after which he will either report that X and CJ are coming to KU and any reports to the contrary are incorrect or that KU will no longer be in the market for their services. If it’s the latter, it’ll be a very sad end to a tumultuous recruitment, but in the end may be better for KU. Who knows?
hmmm….? I don’t think there should be any concern about the way they’d be treated in Lawrence and if they do go elsewhere and use this as the excuse I think it’s a pretty weak one. Anyone who uses the comments section of a newspaper as a barometer of how they will be treated is sorely mistaken and honestly a little bit crazy.
Flat out they would be treated extremely well in Lawrence and they know this. The comments on any Kansas message board or blog are going to be no different than that of a Kentucky fan.
I could very easily see Self putting forth somewhat of a let’s get this over with type ultimatum and telling them flat out…decide what you want and let’s move on, Kansas is a great situation…I’m a great coach and we are going to compete for a championship…if you want to be a part of that great but if not it’s time to move on.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Oh the irony...
… in Self’s comment “article and blogs and people commenting on the article, the family is very upset and concerned about how they’d be treated in Lawrence.”
The ironic thing is that people would love the Henrys if they were in Lawrence right now. Get them to Lawrence and all the animosity that some fans feel will go away. The Henry brothers are good kids. I’m not going to let some questionable comments from their father change my opinion of them.
I'm curious if this more of a parental question.
Carl Henry & Barbara Henry are divorced and when X was at the press conference where he announced he was going to KU, his mother was there and not his father. Barbara Henry also announced she was going to move to Lawrence for X’s freshman year. Judging from both the Brady McCulloch story in the Star and the interview on 610 today, Carl Henry loves the spotlight and his life seems to revolve around his two sons. I wonder if he’s worried his ex may gain too much influence over their kids if she’s in Lawrence while he stays in Oklahoma. Just another thought on this bizarre story.
In a positive note, it seems that the return of Cole & Sherron and the addition of the incoming recruits has lit a fire under guys like Marcus Morris & T2. Even if X & CJ make it to campus, I don’t think playing time will be as easy to come by as Carl Henry seems to think.
by hunter s. royal on Jun 30, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions
This is a fucking fiasco
and I’m ready to be done with it. If they’re going to take comments on an article on the internet that seriously, then how the hell do they think they’re going to survive Kentucky? Grow a pair, learn to use anything you perceive as negative as motivation, and stop being such a couple of preening little bitches.
If my above comment dissuades you from coming to Kansas, then I don’t want you here.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 30, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions
In Xavier's defense
every time I’ve seen him interviewed he’s been articulate and seemed to have a good head on his shoulders. His enthusiasm at the presser announcing he was coming to KU certainly didn’t look fake. I just think Carl Henry is a drama queen and will never shut up because he’s living his unfulfilled dreams through his kids. If Xavier makes it to KU I don’t see any problems, but Carl may just need the adrenalin buzz of constant press enough to jerk X & his brother around to show he’s still got control of them.
by hunter s. royal on Jun 30, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Xavier & Kentucky --- A Match Made in "Big Blue" Heaven
Let’s face it all you JayBirds: Xavier’s opportunities to shine immediately are MUCH improved in Lexington….versus Lawrence. With the departure of Meeks to the NBA, Xavier"s talents would immediately pay dividends for Calipari’s Dribble-Drive offense. Also, Xavier’s ability to make a powerful and timely progression into the NBA is significantly improved under Cal’s watch. Even without Xavier in the midst, Cal just sealed the most talented incoming Freshman class in NCAA B-Ball History. With XH dropping it in from “downtown” (downtown Lexington that is), Wildcats would be more than Awesome (even in a “real” conference like the SEC). Heck, why sit on the bench in rock-chalk land?
Xavier would not be sitting on the bench in Lawrence.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
That’s just one of several flaws in his comments.
by KU_Lew on Jun 30, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yep there are some problems with this one
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Looks like he made up the account to pop-off here.
1 comment on his profile page. Not exactly an SB nation regular.
by hunter s. royal on Jun 30, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I like this comment
The subtle jabs all throughout the comment are cleverly placed and spread just far enough apart to make it not seem like he wasn’t laughing while commenting. Well played, sir.
That being said, and Denver beat me to this, but Xavier wouldn’t be sitting on the bench in Lawrence. I’m not sure what makes you think that.
Thanks for dropping in. It was enlightening.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 30, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Look here, you WildKitty-
Also, Xavier’s ability to make a powerful and timely progression into the NBA is significantly improved under Cal’s watch. Even without Xavier in the midst, Cal just sealed the most talented incoming Freshman class in NCAA B-Ball History.
This is really a contradictory statement, if you think about it. What is the Slimeball REALLY good at? Is it coaching? Meh. He’s pretty good. He is REALLY good at RECRUITING. Just because he can get a bunch of selfish, star-studded, all-about-me-guys, to commit does NOT make him a better coach than Bill Self.
How far along did the Kansas freshman (who are not even as talented at the same time in their careers as most of the guys Cal has, mind you) come last year? What would make them get better? BILL SELF. You can argue all you want about how the Slimeball is better, but truth is – Bill got him when it counted. All Cal goes after are one-and-done’s, and he does it for a reason – he can’t help them DEVELOP. He takes the guys that are ALREADY good and think they are NBA-ready and houses them for one year and reaps the praise from them. Self >>>> Calipari
Wildcats would be more than Awesome (even in a "real" conference like the SEC).
The SEC is a real conference, yes – in FOOTBALL. How many teams in the tourney last year for the SEC? OK, thank you. The 6th or 7th best team in the Big 12 the last few years would beat the 3rd or 4th best team in the SEC in whatever given year. NPOY or runner-ups: the last 3 years, from the Big 12 (Durant, Beasley, Griffin). Who did the SEC have? Nick Calathes? OK, this argument is so non-sense. Big 12 >>>>> SEC.
Heck, why sit on the bench in rock-chalk land?
Ummm… Why exactly would he be sitting on the bench in Lawrence? Well, first of all, he wouldn’t… BUT, let’s say for argument’s sake that you REALLY believe that. Why would you say he would sit on the bench for KU, but not UK? So, what you’re saying to me is that he would be better than anybody else at UK, but wouldn’t be able to start over guys at KU?
Please read this, sir.
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
wondered where you were :D
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Eh, I've been around.
Just lurking lately. So many people here – I’m a little too shy to post :\
Haha :D
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
The SEC, a real basketball conference?
Whew, I needed a good ab workout, thanks for the laugh.
Carry on with your mini-meltdown, ‘hawkers. Just glad the drama doesn’t surround us, for a change.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jun 30, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Meltdown-
Eh, at this point, I almost want them to just go away. It’s gotten to that point.
No one person is bigger than Kansas basketball. – That means you, Xavier, CJ – and even you, Carl.
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed Completely.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 30, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Says the guy from Colorado :D
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Edit: Says an original Colorado fan
(since I am from misery and all…)
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Was going to say...
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 30, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
You're a refugee,
but we have accepted your passport and made you a ’Hawk – if even only for half the year…
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
A) The Sad thing is
the Henry’s apparently are dumb. Just…dumb. And here is why…don’t they realize that Kentucky FANS drove out Gillespe, Tubby (even though he had won a title), etc. UK has more extreme fans in terms of expectations than us Hawks (which is saying something). One bad game, they are seeing a lot more backlash than this article.
B) I’m not a big fan of the Henrys characterwise (mostly with the dad, always seemed like Xavier was a good kid) but this is getting out of control. They are touting themselves as the next MJ and X hasn’t played a minute yet.
C) The comments Carl made about CJ being better than Sherron are way out of line. If X acts the same way, he’s gonna get the tar beat out of him every practice. Hopefully if he does come here he has the sense to apologize to the player who was our heart and soul last year and assure him it was just his Dad.
D) If the Henry’s bolt J. Brady Mac had better run to the hills, especially if this article backlash is what they cite. My guess is KU will need a new beat reporter for sports. I’m submitting my application
Well played
UK fans are the most irrational there are, and I realize that KU fans can be at times, buuuut UK makes us look like understanding grandmothers
by I need more Esteban on Jun 30, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Alright guys I've had enough
how can you guys not respect the greatness of the SEC? Miss St. was a quality representative of winning their conference tourney. LSU and Tennessee, 2 of the best 8 seeds the NCAA’s has ever seen. So what if that was their highest seed folks, they played those number 1 seeds tough!
Give me a break, stick to football….until the Big 12 woops your ass this year.
by I need more Esteban on Jun 30, 2009 7:58 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You, sir-
Are a genius. This is what I was wanting to say earlier, but felt not the urge to do research to be factually correct.
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
sometimes it just helps to be
as sarcastic as humanly possible
by I need more Esteban on Jun 30, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
whether he stays or goes I have to say...
it’s good to see we’ve still got a good group around here when the time is right…I’ve been on a little hiatus recently with my wife giving birth to our daughter. Pretty exciting and spending a lot of time helping out, entertaining out of town family and of course trying to keep an eye on the Jayhawks.
Good news is football is right around the corner and I’ll get back to it pretty soon. In the time being we’ve obviously got an unwelcome distraction with the apparent continuation of what I fear might become a trend in overly dramatic recruitments going forward.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Congrats Denver.
Get her started off in soccer, then when she goes to college she can make the ‘other football’ team as a place-kicker for the Hawks. :)
by hunter s. royal on Jun 30, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
brilliant...
originally i was thinking golf, but I think you are onto something.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
I'd teach her to play catcher on the softball team,
guys tend to avoid softball players. May help in keeping you sane.
or just buy a gun.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
If she becomes a place-kicker
do not let her near Boulder.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 30, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, congrats, Denver.
Does she have a big yellow beak already, too?
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
believe it...
rule #1…She will be a Jayhawk fan…
rule #2…not a dime of future college tuition to anywhere in the state of Missouri.
….and yes she rolled out of the hospital sporting some Jayhawk socks
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Xavier & Kentucky --- A Match Made in "Big Blue" Heaven
Gosh KCsince88,
Why so Tense??? However, since you asked…here is the ranking of a couple of “near and dear” NCAA basketball conferences by all time winning percentage (based on numbers of all-time wins and losses).
SEC – .57923 (15,236 – 11,068)
Big-12 – .566 (15,434 – 11,823)
BTW KCsince88, since you decided to let the Genie out of the bottle…..The Kentucky Wildcats lead the nation with the all time leading win record. On the NCAA championship front…Kentucky holds 7
________________________
Kentucky holds the upper hand against Kansas on Wins (Kentucky= 19 / Kansas=6). Kentucky against all Big 12 opponents combined (Kentucky=53 / Baylor, Colorado, Iowa State , Kansas, Kansas St., Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech…COMBINED:9 (You can thank your Lucky (& Collective) Conference stars that our boy Travis is over at O State…he’ll be the only coach that might finally push y’all into double digits).
Since we’re on the topic…There have been no less than 6 former Wildcats on winning NBA Championship teams in the last 5 years. There have been at least 10 Wildcat basketball players (in UK’s storied history) to win Olympic gold.
Now Xavier….where do you really want to be? Sitting at the bottom of Coach Self’s pine, or playing (starting from day 1!!) with a strong contender for the 2010 NCAA Championship…not to mention with an incredible cast of superstars like Wall, Henry, Orton, Miller..and certainly don’t forget the big man Patterson?
Time to head on over to the Bluegrass…that’s where the REAL THOROUGHBREDS are raised.
Oy
Must we rehash this sorry debate? Why must fans at great schools decide that there must be a definitive answer as to all-time rank and everything? Sheesh, LoneStar. Nobody’s saying UK isn’t a great Basketball school.
We’ve seen all the stats and everything. Don’t waste your time proving something that nobody’s asking you to prove. It makes you appear unnecessarily defensive.
OK, so you take more credence
in a sum of 26,000+ plus games, rather than what is going on PRESENT DAY?!?! Come on, man.
Still not getting why you think he would be “at the bottom of Coach Self’s pine”… I mean, he is better than Brady Morningstar… (WTF are you talking about?
Time to head on over to the Bluegrass…that’s where the REAL THOROUGHBREDS are paid.
And, btw, not tense. This is just what I do:
That includes all breeds of Kittens….
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Such a dork...
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 30, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
OK, this thread is jammed with awesomeness.
But this is EASILY the best.
Easily.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m considering putting this thread (mostly for the comments, though, sorry Denver… ;) into some fictional HOF yet to be created, and you all deserve a pat on the back.
But this is the absolute best.
no apology necessary...
I threw this up to see who was still around and get some discussion…
as far as this fictional HOF…I think that needs to be created ASAP especially with Football season fast approaching…
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Good to see you back rockchalk.
We were worried Coach Cal was tampering with you and you were about to switch allegiance to A Sea of Blue, :D
by hunter s. royal on Jul 1, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions
It took me forever to find it....
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 30, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
WOW.
Dick-head of the Year Post Award right here!
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
<3
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 1, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Shouldn't you go back
to the Colorado site? Football season is coming up. Thanks for stopping by, though :D
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by Andy Edwards on Jul 1, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I won’t argue that Kentucky has GREAT tradition despite recent struggles.
I do think right now the Big 12 is positioned better for more longterm success in basketball than the SEC but that remains to be seen. Currently the Big 12 is better though and I don’t think you could argue that.
Again though, why on earth do you think he would ride the pine and in no way is Kentucky better positioned for a championship run than Kansas.
So when you ask “where do you really want to be”…Xavier would be playing, starting from day 1 and with a strong contender for the 2010 NCAA Championship at Kansas just as easily if not more at Kansas.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Guys, he apparently lives in Texas...
…so he’s both an annoying Kentucky fan and an arrogant Texas prick. What a perfect storm.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 1, 2009 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not cool man...
Not cool
Introducing the new 2008 Big 12 Football Champions: OU, UT*, TT*, and MU*!
Now Introducing the new 2009 Big 12 Baseball Tournament Champions: UT, KSU*, BU*, and MU*!
Aren't you purple guys
supposed to get along with each other? :D
by hunter s. royal on Jul 1, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh we have an ongoing thing
about the state of Texas, Houston vs. Dallas, etc.
Introducing the new 2008 Big 12 Football Champions: OU, UT*, TT*, and MU*!
Now Introducing the new 2009 Big 12 Baseball Tournament Champions: UT, KSU*, BU*, and MU*!
Notice the two adjectives...
…I wouldn’t use those to describe every Texan. Probably not even most. But there are a few…
And, because I’m obliged to…
Houston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dallas
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 1, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
And, because I'm obliged to....
Dallas >>>>>>Kansas City>>>>>>Somalia>>>>>>>Houston
If you love Houston so much why did you move away?
OK, I’ll stop – this isn’t even our blog…
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Houston is awful.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showforum=129
Now you required a response
I had to move away from Houston. The fiancee wasn’t going to be pried 800 miles from her homeland (Kansas), and it wasn’t a fight I had the stomach for. I like Kansas City. It’s a nice city.
Someday, we’re going to have to sit down over drinks and you’re going to have to explain to me what is so great about Dallas. I mean, you’re from Chicago. I would assume you know a good city when you see one. But…Dallas?! Really?! Other than debt and the Cotton Bowl, what good has ever come from Dallas?
Anyway, there’s a reason we say “Houston. It’s worth it.” It may seem like a dump to visit. It may seem like a dump if you stay for a week. But when you live there for a long period of time, you see the genius of it.
Sorry, RCTers. Didn’t mean to have a big tangent here, but I don’t think anyone else is paying attention anyway.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 2, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I just moved from Houston
after 10 years back to my homeland of Denver, and I have to agree that Houston is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dallas. What the hell is in Dallas that’s worth anything?
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 4, 2009 3:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Also...
let’s make one thing clear and I think I speak for most Jayhawk fans. I’m not and I don’t think many are in “meltdown” mode. More than anything this is just sort of shocking.
I’d prefer him at Kansas but he continues to really struggle with making that decision and if that’s the case we’ll be fine without him.
Keep in mind the Jayhawks were anticipated to be a #1 preseason team prior to the Henry saga. His commitment only strengthened the position. If he thinks he’s one and done, he doesn’t help us beyond next year and we’ll be in the thick of it either way. If he can’t see the value in being a part of something potentially very special at his mother and fathers alma mater and at a school he claims to have loved growing up, then it is what it is and we’ll all move on.
No meltdown but certainly another story to follow.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
I'm actually not going to be
that upset if he doesn’t come anymore. I’m not a fan of drama. If he does come, welcome, but if not, good luck at UPay
by I need more Esteban on Jun 30, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly...
we’re a damn good team with or without him…I’d love to have him aboard but if he isn’t interested…I’ll move on
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Congrats Denver
And I vote you get her into hoops and make her the next Lynette Woodard (who I got to meet and spend a weekend with last summer via my internship). Maybe she will get our women’s hoops team over the hump in 2029!
Another thought...this one we've discussed recently and comes from Harrison Barnes...
Q…How has the departure of John Calipari from Memphis to Kentucky impacted you?
“It hasn’t really. He’s a good coach. I don’t know if I like the way they’re doing things right there now though. Seems like he left Memphis kind of in a bad situation and then guys at Kentucky are getting their scholarships taken back. I don’t know yet.”
- Harrison Barnes
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
It's simple-
Harrison Barnes is the anti-Xavier Henry
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Take it for what it's worth...
but a pretty reliable poster on the slant who has been spot on with a lot of recruiting info says the decision has been made with him going to Kentucky. Obviously nothing official yet but this particular poster commenting makes me think we’ll hear Kentucky shortly.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Let him have at it.
I really don’t want this guy after this drama today.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
Who was it?
FS? JL? I can’t find the thread.
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Um, they're gone.
JohnnyLawrence:
Announcement should come tomorrow at the latest. Self has been told and Calipari has also been called.
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Supposedly
Cal has known since Meeks stayed in the draft.
From what I’ve heard, he’s known for sure since Meeks was drafted. People in Memphis think Cal was told by the Henrys that if Meeks goes, they’ll change their pick.
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
This is about the first thing
that has truly pissed me off about this situation. Sure, Carl and his infinite contradicting interviews were one thing, but to have FLAT OUT played KU – the team, the fans and mostly BILL SELF – that is total disrespect.
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
True, but
that’s what big-time college basketball recruiting has become.
Reason number 1,354 that the one-and-done era is a complete joke.
I'm not even pissed that they are gone,
but at how they played Coach Self and the media (Carl telling Shay at JS that his boys ARE GOING TO BE AT KANSAS over and over) is just bullshit. I’m sorry, but that’s the only way to describe it.
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed...
if this part is true, then Bill Self should be thoroughly pissed and the Henry’s really aren’t the people anyone thought they were…if they made an under the table deal with Calipari, while telling Self who has been extremely patient with them something different that’s a real shame and karma can be a bitch.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
It was true with Padgett
and it’ll be true with the Henry Bros.:
We only want people who WANT to be at KU.
+1
can’t win a championship without chemistry and selflessness…if Henry doesn’t buy into that, he won’t help the Jayhawks. Kansas is deep, talented and well coached…next year could be special and when you have guys like Sherron and Cole who seem to carry no egos, I’d hate to add some bad ones to the mix.
Again if all this subsides and much of this turns out to be untrue then great time will pass and they can prove it on the court, but if true, Kansas is better off and we will always be better than a single player.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
this honestly could be a real good thing
People will probably argue with me, but I still say we don’t win it all 2 years ago if Julian Wright is still on the team
by I need more Esteban on Jun 30, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
yep...
Darnell Jackson emerged in a big way as a leader and a stablizing player in in 08’…if Julian is there that might never happen.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Doesn't matter
Cole and Sherron matter way more than xavier and cj…we already have guys coming in capable of making an instant impact, and we were already stacked before that. I’m looking for Mario and Marcus to get PT at the three, and we’re going to keep on winning without one-and-dones. I really don’t care about the Henry’s, other than the fact that they disrespected Coach Self and the rest of the team. Beyond that, good riddance.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jun 30, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I do, I do
planning on another little poll topic tomorrow, nothing special, but hopefully it’ll get the discussion going….who am I kidding, this story is still going to be pretty hot tomorrow.
by I need more Esteban on Jun 30, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
It feels so good to switch from the Allen Fieldhouse Suite
to the Memorial Stadium Suite on Jayhawk Slant….thank the Lord it’s almost time for some football
word is Tanner Hawkinson is up to...
about 275…that’s great news.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
I've talked RB and WR so far
was thinking of switching it up a little and talking a little about the return game, but some kind of defensive preview might be nice…I just have to admit the defensive side of the ball is very hazy to me at this point, maybe the coaches too.
by I need more Esteban on Jun 30, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
You talk trash about one and dones
But Bill Self was right there celebrating his coupe for getting the Henry brothers and so were all the fans! ( With CJ not even costing a scholly). So you Rail on Kentucky over John Wall because he is seen as a one and done, trashing the winingest program in history. You got 2 one and dones with the henrys but hawkers let it slide Until the Henrys finally admitted they wanted to be WILDCATS, not birds. Major talents usually don’t graduate and that is part of the game with every major program. Don’t begrudge kentucky finally getting a Coach worthy of it’s program. Kansas has a major sport: :IN Kentucky it is 24/7 Religion. Approaching 1/3 of a million followers in less than 2 months. Kansas only wishes.
Not even gonna touch it.
Not worth getting banned over.
Meet us in the tournament.
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Not really.
I just don’t wanna put SlowDance in a tough spot having to ban me and all.
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Is SlowDance still alive?
He hasn’t even commented on this piece yet.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
Those damn California kids...
He doesn’t even get on Facebook anymore.
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I bet he has a girlfriend.
They’ll take all of the fun time away. Well, the nerdy fun time.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
Haha, you mean he's left the basement??
Must be the girl he was bustin’ the moves on at the school dance..
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow.
KC, I think it’s funny that this little mini-thread-break-off thing started out with you saying you don’t wanna get banned.
And then you continually destroy me.
For the record, I’ve been doing a lot of college prep shit and stuff. There was a trip to Xavier, then summer HW and buying shit and whatnot. So, yeah.
I think I’m pretty much done, though, at least until August when I’m about to leave or whatever. So hopefully I’ll actually be active on my own blog.
Haha, true story...
Not sure how that happened. All in good fun, though. I mean, you’re not hear to defend your name – gotta talk about you.
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
so you aren't going to try to turn this into
Musketeer Talk or something are you?
by I need more Esteban on Jul 1, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
no one is railing Kentucky for one and dones...
or saying they aren’t a potential big piece of the puzzle…I think we’re more commenting on the ego’s that are now in the college game because kids are forced to play a year as opposed to being able to simply go pro. It’s led to the last few years becoming a different deal in terms of recruiting.
As far as the rest of your post…I guess time will tell whether Calipari is a “worthy” coach or not. Kentucky is an excellent program but I think you’re mistaken if you don’t think Kansas fans are just as emphatic about their basketball.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Kentucky fan here...
Hey guys,
Sorry that you guys are on the wrong end of this (but who knows, that could be us). We all followed XH and CJ’s recruitment and its full of drama. Would you say that (the drama) is more indicative of XH and CJ or their dad Carl? Not saying that I’m not happy to have him if he comes, just want to know what we are getting ourselves into.
Also, know that not all Kentucky fans are not as a$$holish as they seem online. We are really nice folks in person. You all have a fine tradition going on in Lawrence and I always enjoy when our paths intercede. Hope to see you at the final 4. ;-)
I would say this is...
drama caused by XH and CJ with Carl being the parent who is enabling it and broadcasting it in the media for some strange reason. He seems to really thrive on having his name in the media and I myself have found it somewhat strange that even several weeks after they committed to Kansas he has been on multiple radio shows, conducted interviews for publications etc.
Seems like at that point it’s time for the parents to move out of the spotlight if they haven’t already. Honestly the mother seems to be about the most level headed in this whole ordeal.
As far as painting entire fanbases with one brushstroke, I would hope no one would do that and we welcome anyone who wants to have a little discussion on the deal so thanks for stopping by.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
I do think despite this recruiting drama...
I think these guys will be fine once they settle on a destination. I suppose there is always a chance if they become unhappy with there roll that could change but I think they’ll be allright. There is far more likely a chance that this drama would impact him and his team at Kansas than Kentucky.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
We had a player in Billy G's first year...
named Alex Legion. He pulled out of his LOI to Michigan and transferred out of UK before the end of his first semester. His mom was heavily involved in all aspects of his life. Kentucky fans gave her the nickname “the prophetess” because of her weird behavior. Billy G might have had a lot to do with the transfer, but a lot of people blame the medaling mom. He’s riding the pine for the Illini, he was top 30 talent.
I’m just hoping this incident is not a repeat. XH is a great talent but he is a young man being pulled in a lot of different directions. I’m a little concerned about multiple commitments, its always a red flag. KU or UK, hope the kid lands of his feet.
Thanks for the welcome BTW, best of luck to you all this season (unless you play UK). :-)
Honestly
I have no idea who all is to blame for this. I don’t really care. This is what recruiting is now, and for a few weeks we were the beneficiaries of the screwed up system. Now, we aren’t.
We’re still ridiculously loaded and setup for at least the next 2 years. I think the Carl Henry Recruitment Show will end once his kids have settled on a place to play and actually show up. With the clear one-and-done intentions of at least Xavier, I doubt any unhappiness towards the situation will result in another move. Chances are the Henry’s are Kentucky’s newest recruits, so enjoy the resurgence and maybe we’ll see the ’Cats down the line.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 30, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
wow
a rational and respectful Kentucky poster, helps my perspective a little
by I need more Esteban on Jul 1, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
So now this....seems maybe he is staying...?
what a mess, but as I’ve said before I’d still love to have em so maybe this is good news…
610 Sports in KC says Xavier is Sticking with Kansas
apparently these guys talked directly to Xavier
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
WTF!
I was about to go to bed. WTF is going on?
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly what I was thinking...
Quote from Xavier…“I’m going to Kansas and that’s final”
this is probably another example of how messageboards, blogs and new media can sometimes spin things a little out of control. : )
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
(waiting for confirmation before telling 2 previous UK jack-offs (not scfcats, at all) to SHOVE IT!)
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
haha!!!
I thought you might have more to say.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Oh, I WILL!
Just you wait, sir.
This is totally ridiculous, though. I don’t know WTF to say right now…
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
yep...like I told sfcats...
at this point I hope he decides what he wants regardless of what it is, but I won’t be able to believe it 100% until I hear he is practicing and on campus.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
agreed...
at this point I just really hope the kid chooses what he really wants and everything else will take care of itself. I’m not sure I’ll be fully confident though until he hits campus
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
This is stupid.
Recruiting is so obnoxious.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 30, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Also
I’m listening to this interview with Carl Henry and when referring to his kids he says “we”, like he’s the one being recruited. He might seriously being living vicariously throughout this.
And wtf is with his name being pronounced “Zah-Vee-Eh”?
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 30, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s actually quite simple, really. Dooley was hiding in Self’s briefcase. The family never knew what hit them.
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Self and Manning fly in...
attempt the polite close and then Dooley pounces in with the intimidating close thus sealing the deal.
Honestly though could you imagine being a KU fan growing up and having to look both Manning and Self in the eye and say you were going to change your mind…that would be tough.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Hell no.
I can’t imagine what that would be like.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jun 30, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
OK....
So, I honestly don’t know WTF to say right now…
Let’s take bets.
Is he going to KU or not?
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I'll say yes.
But, I can’t entirely say that I want them to at this point.
Now, I’ll be the millionth person to bring up the Brandon Rush similarity (is there a prize or something for that?), and I ended up loving him, but I’m just not seeing it right now.
So, we’ll see.
But yeah, I say yes.
Hey, nice to have you here on YOUR website!
Yeah, I’m not saying anything cuz obviously nobody knows WTF is going on.
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry...
no bets for me…this has been about the most wild ride ever. Good news is with the upcoming group of guys like Harrison Barnes, Beal and Perry Ellis…we might have slightly less eventful rides going forward.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Xavier staying at Kansas is being confirmed...
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Good.
Oh, wait, I mean bad.
I mean, who the hell knows what to think anymore.
All I’m saying is that these Henrys better be worth all of the shit.
Not necessarily in terms of wins/NCAA Tournament advancement, but just in being decent human beings. Try and help out the team while spending your one year in college.
Shay says he's staying.
That’s it. Fight’s all over, folks. You can all go home.
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by Andy Edwards on Jun 30, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
The Henry's door looks just like the door at Memphis.
Odd.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
Second best thing on this thread.
I didn’t even watch the video for a second (was at school…I’m still pissed about it), but I read so much of the aftermath I feel as if I was a part of that.
So, this might be one of my favorite references on the internet.
Rec’d.
Haha, that was an EPIC thread!
Picture of Megan Fox awarded to the person that can dig it up and link it here.
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by Andy Edwards on Jul 1, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
OK, I found it myself, actually.
http://www.rockchalktalk.com/2009/3/31/816600/georgia-offers-mike-anderson-2#comments
So, props to me. (But, you all win.)
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by Andy Edwards on Jul 1, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Oh, man… I forgot how Denver was convinced that that was Mike Anderson reporting outside the door, HAHAHA!
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by Andy Edwards on Jul 1, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Also, this nugget from Warden:
Seems like everyone is ignoring the fact that Cole
is gone. What are the realistic chances of him coming back?
I’d think 1 in 5 at best right now.
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by Andy Edwards on Jul 1, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Lookout!
KC thinks he’s on a roll. I blame it on him fooling around the Global Futbol site. :D Though he did get a nice game thread going for the US final in the Confederations cup.
by hunter s. royal on Jul 1, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, all in good fun, Warden.
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thank god....
the door has made an appearance
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
WTF???
So I leave for an hour and a half, sing some kick-ass karaoke, and I come back to a whole new ballgame.
Oh well, at least it’s good news (basically), right?
Haha, bad idea, man...
An hour and a half is equal to like 4 months in this ordeal.
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by Andy Edwards on Jul 1, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
All this only reaffirms my stance that until a player signs a LOI, they shouldn’t be considered part of the team. And in my view, we might be better off without the Henry’s. No distractions off the court, no big ball hog who will want to show off, and everyone who is on the team actually wants to be there.
But if he does stick with us, I’ll have a little smile.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
1. How do you know he’ll be a ballhog?
2. If we’re getting cynical, let’s go the full monty: How do you know the rest of the team actually wants to be there?
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jul 1, 2009 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
But from the fact that he doesn’t even want to be college to begin with, and the fact that he can’t make up his mind, that’s why I think that. And knowing that he wants to go straight to the NBA, he’ll want to show off as much as he can, wanting the ball more.
I hope I’m completely wrong, but that’s what I think right now.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
Another thing to consider
is that if he doesn’t leave the school with good academic standing – you guys could lose a scholarship for next year. It happened to us with the waste of height that was Jason Bennett. X has even said he doesn’t like class so that may be something to worry about. Hopefully, for you guys’ sake, that the senior leaders on the team can set him straight.
Luckily, our one and dones Mike and Bill, kept up their grades so that we didn’t lose any scholarships.
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We too have had players...
that left KU while in poor academic standing that cost us a couple of scholarships (in our case it was football) – I believe LB Brandon Duncan was one of the culprits.
As for Beasley and Walker, I believe they took online courses during 2nd semester (at least Beasley did). I think KU should do the same with Xavier if it’s obvious that he won’t be back for his sophomore year. Personally, I think online courses are a joke but if they’re good enough to keep a player eligible and keep a school’s APR in good standing, then a player (and university) ought to take advantage of it.
I agree
Online courses are an easy cop-out, but when you’re not going to earn a degree who cares right?
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Another source confirming
Don’t know if it’s the same source as above, but we need all the confirming we can get.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
Let's Review
What do we know?
1. Brothers have chosen not to do summer school
2. Not exactly flattering piece appears in KC Star over the weekend.
What do we think we know?
1. Family was pissed
2. Self and Manning went down to OKC to smooth things over
What is purely conjecture?
1. The boys secretly love Calipari with all their hearts and want to follow him to the ends of the earth
2. Kentucky has no problem kicking two more players off their team to make room for the Henrys
3. Xavier Henry once pissed on Phog Allen’s grave
4. CJ was the secret cause of KU’s probation in 1989
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jul 1, 2009 1:03 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
OK...
…your last two conjectures are kind of hilarious.
by tequilaprophet on Jul 1, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Take a Step Back
Does everyone realize here how much they’re overreacting? OMG SOME COMMENTER ON THE INNERNETS SAID IT IT MUST BE TRUE!!!
And WTF does this have to do with Kentucky? They refused to even visit that place. This is between Memphis and Kansas. Period.
Anyone that is so quick to condemn these kids IN JUNE hereby loses their rights to enjoy their performances this season. I will be taking notes- choose your words carefully.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jul 1, 2009 1:06 AM CDT reply actions
....Really?
Taking notes? That’s awesome.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jul 1, 2009 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I must say...
this year has had the most dramatic recruiting saga that I can remember at KU. What players in the past can even compare? and do you think this is going to stay this way with the one-and-done era?
Well KC...
you said you wanted more Hat-Presser type recruits….this is what you get I guess
I've got crazy flipper fingers!
What a stupid ordeal
I guess I’m to blame for buying into it all. I usually don’t but when media platforms start to report it (610 sports, kusports.com) I start to believe it might be true. Oh well, welcome Henry’s, but don’t pull any diva bs at KU
by I need more Esteban on Jul 1, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions
Carl talks a lot. Some good and some bad with comments usually stradling both sides of the fence (we love KU / we don’t love KU). So I basically took all the frustration exhibited by Carl in the last 24 hours with a grain of salt and felt like it would blow over.
It wasn’t until I heard the concern in Self’s comments yesterday morning to KCTV 5 in Kansas City, as well as the report that he was headed to OKC to meet with the Henrys, that I became worried.
I went to bed resigned to the fact the Henrys were not coming to KU only to wake up to read X has reaffirmed his commitment to KU. I am happy the Henrys are coming to KU but at the same time I have to repress this feeling that I should be angry with them for putting us through this.
by KU_Lew on Jul 1, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I concur.
Though I lay more of the blame for this on Carl. I read Brady’s story, and maybe this is the journalist in me seeking to defend my profession, but Carl hung himself with those quotes. If he didn’t want people realizing that’s what his family’s plan is, he shouldn’t have granted Brady the access. A reporter’s job isn’t to please the source, but to inform the public.
I’ll get off my soap box now.
by tequilaprophet on Jul 1, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Mike DeCourcy (spelling?) of Sporting News
talked about this on 810 this morning. He made the same point about Carl being upset about the article, but confirming that it was an accurate story. It’s just odd, odd situation.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showforum=129
Exactly
McCullough isn’t to blame for this. When you talk to a reporter, you better assume everything you say and do is going to end up in print, unless you’ve made it clear you’re not on the record. The only thing in the entire piece that was borderline was McCullough’s editorializing line to the effect of “It’s hard to believe Carl Henry can eat as much as he likes to talk.”
Other than that, Carl Henry was the one with the shovel, not J. Brady McCullough.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Jul 1, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone think this is the last we'll hear from Carl Henry?
Not on your life.
I think Xavier is talented enough to excel in any offensive scheme (be it Self’s offense or Calipari’s dribble-drive motion) so I don’t foresee Carl having problems with Xavier’s PT or how he’s used at KU. If he’s not starting right away, Carl might say something to say about that but clearly X will get plenty of PT even if he isn’t starting right away.
But what’s going to happen when CJ is the 4th or 5th (or maybe 6th) person in the guard rotation behind Collins, Taylor, Johnson, and perhaps Morningstar or Reed? I’m guessing that won’t sit well with Carl. (NOTE: I’m using “guard” to represent only the PG and SG positions. The SF or “wing” position would have a different rotation.)
once they are enrolled and playing...
they’re leverage and the interest in the father and what he says won’t be nearly as important. He might still feel the need to try and talk but I’m not sure it will ever have the impact that it has over the last couple of days.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
he is staying
apparently what i heard is Self’s trip went well, and he is sticking with us. Yay……………………………..?
Oh wait
may be kinda old news by now after I checked my sources. Haha, in other news guys, Reesing beat out Meier as starting QB
This made me chuckle
:D
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