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Championship Week -- Day Five

No preview, or anything, or even a listing of games. Just way too many, and I'm feeling sort of lazy, at the moment.

Still, there are dozens and dozens of games today, from incredibly important Bubble games to the first Conference Championship to bundles of Conference Tournament games.

This is your thread to put any-and-all comments in for the day.

We will be having a separate OGT for the Kansas game, though, at it's normally scheduled time, so for those hours, or whatever, this thread will just be neglected.

And, finally, congratulations are in order for the Cornell Big Red, who became the first team to officially be invited to the NCAA Tournament. Congratulations, Andy Bernards.

Congrats.

I'll be here all day, as I have no life beyond college basketball. The next month, everything is shelved, temporarily at the very least, and CBB is put on first. It really is a disease.

The Race for Four-Thousand begins...NOW!

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UConn/Pitt...is that on now

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

i gotta say

pitt scares the shit outta me

by Danny Satan on Mar 7, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

as they should...

I watched em in the tourney when they played out in Denver last year…1st/2nd round and I thought then they would be a major contender this year.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

no shit, huh?

is blair just a fuckin beast in person or what

by Danny Satan on Mar 7, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

absolutely...

both Blair and Fields are very impressive in person…

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

yea i like fields a lot

so smart with the ball and he’s so strong… if he was a little more dangerous from outside i would consider him the best point in the nation

by Danny Satan on Mar 7, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

and by the way,

i think maybe some of these guys should be tested… i’m only half-joking. the pitt players have the bodies of 3-year NBA veterans

by Danny Satan on Mar 7, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

easily

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

He's definitely a force of nature.

What’s a good comp for him? Charles Barkley & Robert Traylor come to mind, though I don’t know if Blair’s got a jump shot like Barkley, & I think he’s better than Traylor.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 11:25 AM CST reply actions  

Traylor did something stupid when he was in the league,

but I don’t remember what it was. Anyone?

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

arrested stupid,

not typical stupid.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

good comparisons

and yes, he’s much better than traylor… blair has much better b-ball IQ than traylor and actually has a polished offensive game. i would say he’s like a refined version of sean may

by Danny Satan on Mar 7, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

He's a great player to watch.

Doesn’t seem like he should be able to move the way he does carrying that weight, but he gets it done.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

i can't believe it didn't dawn on me, especially as a bulls fan

but blair is elton brand 2.0 all the way down to the length… i remember jerry crause was raving about brand’s deceptive height, saying he “has no neck” so he was taller than his listed height if that makes sense… well blair has a 7’3’’ wingspan so i think that qualifies him as being taller than his listed height

by Danny Satan on Mar 7, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

That's the right comp.

I was thinking there was someone else out there similar, and Brand is the guy. Blair looks like he has more fun playing though.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

OT-

Netherlands up 3-1 on the Dominicans. That’s a shocker, so far. I’ll be surprised if they hold on.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 11:39 AM CST reply actions  

Weird.

I didn’t realize the dutch were even in the tournament. I was thinking you were dropping a soccer game in the thread, but that didn’t seem like you.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah,

no kickyball from me. But I do love kickball.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Just as shocking (to me at least),

the Netherlands isn’t all white guys.

Didn’t realize Curacao and Aruba as part of the Netherlands.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Luis Silverio

is the Dominican 3rd base coach.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

It never has

before, has it?

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

The Peter Principle:

Get promoted beyond your level of competence. Some guys were made to coach first.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Is Andruw Jones playing for the Dutch team this year?

I don’t know if I can think of another great career that fell apart as quickly as did his. And for no clear reason other than he looks like he gained 20 pounds and for some reason couldn’t shed it. There must be more to it than the extra weight.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Mar 7, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder about his age.

He may be one of those guys that are 5-6 years older than they thought.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

that could definitely be true

as well.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

coincidence

with the testing that started a few years ago?

Could have easily added weight and found out how hard it is to lose that bonus weight naturally.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Definitely another possibility.

Joe Posnanski had a column where he said some people who have taken steroids told him they work much like amphetamines; Not only do they speed up muscle recovery, they jack you up so you like lifting weights 2-3 hours a day.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

sam young is such a fuckin pimp

i hope paxson has him on his radar come june

by Danny Satan on Mar 7, 2009 11:44 AM CST reply actions  

I see Drew Gooden is so valuable:

The Bulls pretty much dumped him for nothing. Outside of Pierce, KU players have not shown much in the NBA. Seems they play hard enough to get a good contract, then pretend they’re on paid vacation.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 11:56 AM CST reply actions  

I would agree...

although I think a lot of that reflects more from the Roy days and he still has that problem…I think we’ll see more success with Bill Self players.

Hell Ostertag was as productive as anyone…

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

part of the problem may be:

it’s so intense playing at Kansas, it seems a big let down to grind it out in the NBA.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

as a homer I'd love to say yes but I'm not sure that's the case...

The NBA is a right place right time type of league…there are your stars but then there are those that find the right situation and take off…There is just an incredible amount of talent in that league and because of it there isn’t a lot of patience.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

But, like Denver said, it had a lot to do with the type of players Roy brought in, and the type of player development they had.

Hinrich was pretty good for awhile, and Collison is average currently. But pretty much everyone else is just bad. Well, I suppose Jacques Vaughn is still in the league, so he must be good.

What’s funny, is that Mario Chalmers might be the second best Jayhawk in the NBA…already. Craziness. Julian Wright has been a Bill Self bust, but I am nearly positive Brandon will be successful, and think Darrell will be as well.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

JW has his moments,

just like at KU. He’s still stuck without a skill that he does very well.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

He was just far too raw.

If he was going to be successful in the NBA, someone would have to spend a lot of time developing him.

It doesn’t look like that happened in N’awlins, and he’s struggled because of it. If he gets into the right place, though, he could come out and play well.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Darrell will be a solid contributor..

but it’s hard for anyone to get noticed in Memphis right now

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Jacque Vaughn

still gets paid. Somehow.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I believe Raef is...

making a large chunk of change this year and not even playing…I guess if nothing else our guys know how to work the system

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

Raef is, ridiculously, earning like 17 MILLION dollars this season.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah I was going to say 12...

but it could be 17…all I know is it’s way more than he deserves but good for him.

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah,

Bill Simmons wrote a few weeks ago about Raef having the most coveted contract in the league. Said every team wants his contract, I didn’t understand why though. The NBA’s salary structure/ luxury cap stuff confused the hell out of me.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Because, if you trade for his contract.

And it fits under your cap, then it comes off the books at the end of the year, cause this is the last year of the contract.

So, that’s like 17 million in cap space that comes off the books, that you can spend on whatever.

At least, that’s how I understand it, in my very limited knowledge of the NBA.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

that's what I figured,

and I guess the new team wouldn’t have to pay much of his remaining contract?

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah.

Cause there’s only like, what, a month-and-a-half left in the season? Two months?

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty much it.

That’s one of the reasons Detroit is still okay with the Allen Iverson deal. After this season, his $21 million (I think) comes off the books.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Mark Cuban fell in love with Raef I think:

Traded for him, gave him a monster contract, then lost his crush & traded him off. Sweet deal for Raef. I imagine he’ll put the money to good use.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

You and me both.

He’s what helped me fall in love with KU basketball.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Still have this magazine but the year's result still stings..

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

love those old uni's too

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Ohhh yeah.

I still have my 11 jersey from when I was a kid.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

he was a GREAT college player..

and great in Roy’s system but I don’t think anyone ever expected great things in the pros.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

4 or 5 years ago,

Sportscenter spliced in clips of AFH during his time there with clips of him playing in Utah. They’d show a layup he made for the Jazz and then it would show the crowd going nuts holding up Jacque signs. It was pretty funny.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

OK, I just woke up.

Living out here on the west coast, I end up missing a lot of first half CBB on Saturday’s. The goal is to wake up by 10 AM, though, PST, so I can catch the second halves.

So, here I am.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:03 PM CST reply actions  

damn,

that’s noon!

During college, I could sleep all day whenever I felt like it. Now making it to 9 is an accomplishment.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I had a dream last night.

Can’t really explain it, but whatever.

In the dream, Cole Aldrich was at the foul line, missed both free throws, then they showed a stat that said he was a 51.5% free throw shooter, after starting off the year at 80%, or whatever he was.

I’m now officially worried that Cole will fall apart from the free throw line.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:05 PM CST reply actions  

I have lots of dreams.

None of them good. Be glad yours are at least basketball.

Except the time I had the dream I was Gambit. That was an amazing dream.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

They aren't all about basketball.

When they aren’t, though, I don’t feel it would fit in here at RCT, so I don’t post them.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Rain in Lawrence

It is about to start storming here in Lawrence. Probably will have rain off and on all day. Hopefully nothing hard.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Mar 7, 2009 12:07 PM CST reply actions  

Baseball games today??

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

time??

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it was moved to the night.

Maybe 6 PM?

It was originally in the afternoon, IIRC, but was moved due to something else happening on campus at the time. Can’t remember exactly what that was, though…

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe they can draw some folks in after the bball game...

they should have done it right at like 5

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Everyone with a basketball ticket will get $3 admission.

But there is going to be a three or four hour break between the games so I doubt many people will take advantage. Especially with the weather looking nasty.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Mar 7, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah I guess it's a 2 hour break then...

although…being senior night there are the speeches after the game so that will buy some extra time…it might get a few.

I will say though this is probably one of the least anticipated Senior days…props to Kleinmann and Bechard but even they have to know it is what it is.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

7PM

It was originally set for 1PM, but they moved it so it would not conflict with the basketball game. Better for the fans, better for parking. I wish they only moved it to an hour after the basketball game.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Mar 7, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe

It looks like Lawrence might miss the downpours happening to the north and south. They will play if at all possible. Price is kinda insane about never canceling games. Two years ago Lawrence was covered in snow. Rather than cancel the series with South Dakota State Price put the team in vans, drove them up the Metrodome in Minneapolis, and the two teams played games at 3AM in an empty stadium after the D-II teams playing there in a tournament wrapped up their games.

First pitch is not until 7PM so we won’t know if they are going to play until near that time.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Mar 7, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Dang, radar shot did not transfer over.

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by James Quinn on Mar 7, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

St. Louis,

As a closer. I read that rumor somewhere.

The Rockies are another good bet.

Washington needs a lot of help. I’m sure they would give him a low contract and hope to trade him in June if he is looking good.

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by James Quinn on Mar 7, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd prefer him to Kyle Farnsworth.

And he’d be more likely to earn Farnsworth’s contract, but I wonder if he’d agree to be a reliever. If he’d close for us & we could move Soria to starting, that would be a worthwhile gamble.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

The Rockies?

They have zero money. Zero.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Who's their owner?

Seems like they have a good fanbase and plenty of big companies in Denver. They shouldn’t be a small market team.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

The Monfort Brothers.

They’re notoriously cheap, but they’ve already spent money the money they had for this off-season. The Rockies are one of only 10 teams this year to actually be increasing payroll, but most of it came from guys going into arbitration and getting hefty raises.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Monfort Brothers suck

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Best example

The fanbase in Denver really is itching to get back into the Rockies, but everyone hates the Monforts. HATES them. When the Rockies were presented the ’07 NL pennant, they introduced the owners and 56 thousand people booed the hell out of them.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

They just dumped Holliday.

That’s gonna make it hard to sell tickets.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

"Dumped"

I think in the end, that’s going to prove to be a great trade for the Rockies.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I've got money on Atkins getting moved this year too...

what do you think Slam…his name has already come up in a lot of trade rumors

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

If Helton is healthy

I want Atkins moved. Ian Stewart is the real deal and I think he’s got a David Wright type of ceiling. He’s a GREAT defender and if his bat finds some consistency, it’s going to be really strong.

Atkins should be moved, but the market for him can’t be very big right now and we have specific needs. Pitching is always nice, but we have like 4 #5 starter types, so unless something catastrophic happens in terms of injuries, we need something else.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah I would agree with that...

but I’m not sure the masses will take kindly to an Atkins move right after Holliday…fan favs being shipped out in a bad economy means empty seats…the only cure is to win and if they do that all will be forgiven. With their pitching in place though I don’t see it happening.

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I can see why the fans stay away, but from a baseball standpoint, Atkins should be moved.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

the revolving door of baseball strikes again.

I can remember growing up and knowing the royals team inside and out year in and year out…it all got lost.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder about trading with the A's.

They always seem to be ahead of the curve. Holliday may have been overrated because of ballpark effects, but that move will still alienate fans. They always want to win now.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Definitely alienated fans...

Folks here supported the hell out of the Rockies when they came to town and they quickly showed again a couple years ago that if the product is on the field they will turn out in force. Ownership doesn’t seem to care and that’s rubbing folks the wrong way. With this economy it will be interesting to see how things shake out if they aren’t winning early which I don’t expect they will. The media here has been organizing the anti-Monfort bandwagon for years now and this year might just be the perfect storm.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I know Kroenke

contacted the Monforts about buying the team, but they had zero interest in selling. I would’ve loved for that to happen. He spends money to put winners out there.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Seems like he would be a great fit.

Now, his brother-in-law, Bill Laurie, is a nut job.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Monforts won't sell...

because despite their horrid efforts at fielding a winner…they are the 10th most profitable in the league. Coors is just a field that because of location and the Colorado sunshine attracts people even if they aren’t winning.

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

that will make the walk to campus

a lot of fun today.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

My favorite part, well not really, but I loved it...

of going to Kansas games was parking on the residential streets for free and making the decently long trek to AFH.

As an 8-year old, I loved it. It was just so much fun. I can’t really explain why, but I think that’s part of what makes AFH so special. It hwas the homey, down-to-earth feel, which is highlighted by parking on streets filled with houses on them.

But that’s just me.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I went to a game there about 10 years ago

and parked up on the curb next to one of the parking lots. There were cars parked all over. We walk out after the game and the curb is empty. They towed everyone.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Really?

Maybe you just didn’t know the place…

Me and my dad did it EVERY SINGLE TIME we went, and nothing ever happened. Where we parked, it wasn’t just on a curb next to a parking lot. It was like on the other side of campus, in a residential neighborhood.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

are you talking down Naismith Drive...

or up the hill

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Ousdahl is where we parked.

It’s right next to the Taco John’s on 23rd Street.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

we were on the grass

next to a parking lot, along with about 10 other cars. All of them were gone when we came out. That sucked.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

My brother lives on the east end of Lawrence,

and when we go to games he has some route down 15th street(I think) that evades most of the traffic.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't you just have your girlfriend drop you off out front;

then she can park the car and walk in. I’m sure that’s feasible. If you have Mark Cuban’s money.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm going with a buddy,

maybe he can talk his girlfriend into it.

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

UPDATE:

buddy’s girlfriend DID drive us!

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn.

Pitt is absolutely destroying UCONN.

Even though Pitt won in Storrs, I still figured the Huskies were better.

Is Pittsburgh really the second-best team in the country, after UNC? Are they better than UNC?

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:11 PM CST reply actions  

I really think Pitt would take it too UNC pretty handily...

UNC is soft plain and simple and we all know why. Pitt will come out punch em in the mouth like we did last year in the tourney and that will be that. Toughness wins in the tourney (so I’ve learned)

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

So, you think they are the best team in the country?

Even if they are, I can’t wrap my brain around that…

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Like I was telling Danny earlier...

I watched Pitt live in the 1st and 2nd round last year and was extremely impressed with how physically intimidating they are…their tougher than anyone in the country in my opinion and I think that will go a long way. We’ll see though, the tournament does funny things but if I were to pick I would say yes I think they are the best.

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

right before he started crying

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by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

His postgame interviews last year after we beat them were hysterical...

the guy had been completely emasculated and I think that was the day that the mojo of Psycho T began to wear off.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe Cole stole the officiating love from him...

off course the Tech game wouldn’t indicate that at all.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

That's about the only game lately Cole's had foul trouble..

Unlike earlier in the year. Let’s hope that game was just a bad dream.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Quick SCORE UPDATE...

Boston College is tied, 34-34, with Georgia Tech in Boston. BC has been in since they beat Duke, but they already lost to NC State this week, and if they lose that one, they’re done.

Minnesota up, 45-35, on Michigan. The Wolverines are out of the picture with another loss, while a win should clinch things up for the Golden Gophers.

VCU is up 11 on Georgia State, in the quarters. VCU is the #1 seed.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:18 PM CST reply actions  

Alright guys,

got to go grab some lunch and head to Lawrence.

Looking forward to 4,000 comments when I get home tonight. Don’t let me down!

I just got back from your mom's basement.

by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 12:20 PM CST reply actions  

Enjoy!!

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

If you combine this thread.

With the two Kansas threads.

Then we might have a shot to put up pretty big numbers.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

4000 even :D

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

they already tried that

but cole adrich hijacked it n drank it all

by Danny Satan on Mar 7, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

That explains the Tech game.

Denver better get KC & Warden on the phone and have them monitor the drink on the KU bench.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

VCU only up 8, now, on Georgia State.

This might, actually, be my favorite part about Championship Week. When the top seed, the best team in the conference, has tight games with also-rans that are expected to suck.

I love the magical runs through the NCAA Tournament.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 12:42 PM CST reply actions  

There are a lot of sports on today

not only all the college bball but U.S. plays Canada in a few minutes in some WBC action.

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

I'll be watching that.

It’s much easier to watch baseball and study for history exams.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn.

Michigan has stormed back, and taken a three-point lead with 5 seconds left.

Minnesota just hit a three, but it was after Tubby Smith called a TO, so they’re still down three.

A loss here confuses things for the Gophers. They are an interesting bubble team. Michigan badly needs a win, though, if they are to make it at all.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:04 PM CST reply actions  

In other news, Vermont has come storming back against Albany.

Vermont is the 2 seed, Albany the 7, but Vermont was losing by as many as 17 earlier. They’re now up 1, with 2 minutes left.

And VCU pulled away, and barring a miracle of all miracles, VCU is going to win.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:05 PM CST reply actions  

Go Albany!

As many teams KU has played in the tournament as possible

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Boston College still only up 1 on Georgia Tech.

A loss here would ruin all of the goodwill from the UNC and Duke wins, and pretty much knock them out.

Geez, that has to be frustrating.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:06 PM CST reply actions  

Michigan wins!

That really muddles up the Big 10/11 bubble picture.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:06 PM CST reply actions  

so you think Minnesota's out then.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Since they beat Wisconsin earlier on

they still aren’t “out”.

But, while they were “in” prior to this game, now they need to win some games in the Big 10/11 Tournament.

The entire Big 10/11’s bubble picture is just so screwed up, it’s crazy. All of the teams have certain advantages over others, and it just becomes a mess. Penn State looks to be in, for sure, now, but the Michigan-Minnesota-Wisconsin triangle is impossible to solve. And, I bet only two of those teams get in. Whoever is left out is going to feel like they got jobbed, whoever it is.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

"jobbed"

one of the best words in the English language.

I just got back from your mom's basement.

by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

It's a HUGE game for the Ags.

A win pretty much clinches them a berth in the Tournament. A loss, and they need some help and/or to do plenty of work in OKC.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm always hoping Turgeon can get a win...

except in Lawrence

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually

I think it’s definitely possible.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

genius.

I just got back from your mom's basement.

by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Teahen starting at third for Canada.

Matt Stairs somewhere.

Also of note, Canada has like a hundred left-handers.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:08 PM CST reply actions  

How about that catching corps?

Martin and Iannetta? NL West represent!

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:10 PM CST reply actions  

Oh, God.

Boston College is now LOSING by one, AT HOME, to one-win Georgia Tech. That’s one win in the conference, just FYI.

Shit, Eagles. Do you not want to Dance, this season?

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:12 PM CST reply actions  

I mean, this is what ESPN's Bubble Watch said this week:
As long as the Eagles beat Georgia Tech at home in Saturday’s regular-season finale, they will be fine on Selection Sunday.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Of course, BC just hit a fadeaway 18-footer with 1.7 seconds left.

To sneak away with a win.

Probably going to make the NCAAs, now, even though they tried their best to blow it.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

BC is the Chicago Bulls of college hoops

they have their best and worst games of the year 3 times a week

by Danny Satan on Mar 7, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

WBC

Canada really does have a pretty good lineup, no pitching, though

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:13 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed.

Although, how the hell can anyone be watching baseball right now?

IT’S STILL BASKETBALL SEASON!!!!!

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

well right now

there aren’t any games on that really interest me.

And although March is basketball time, this is when I really start to get an itch for baseball, so having competitive games with a rooting interest (USA) is all I need to get into a baseball mode.

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I understand.

Personally, I would just rather watch ANYTHING basketball related than anything baseball. I just love love love love love basketball.

Baseball is just all right, for me.

But basketball…

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

It's definitely good.

Peavy is also really overrated.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW

how fucking sweet was that bomb he hit in the NLCS last year? I mean he crushed that shit on a PH

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

That thing was a rocket.

He was definitely taking some cuts in the cage before that AB.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, yeah.

It’s Matt Stairs!

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

The all hair team!

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

wow

I can’t believe he is actually in right, send it over there and turn singles to doubles

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

That’s exactly what happened. You’d think he would know how to play those walls…

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

How hot is the seat getting for Billy Gillespie...

what’s happened to Kentucky of late is a reminder of how quickly things can go downhill

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by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:17 PM CST reply actions  

wow true

I kind of forgot he was there

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

With how big of a contract they gave him, I still bet he gets another year.

The pressure will be on, big time, though, to win the SEC. No SEC title next year, no more Billy Gillespie, methinks.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I think

Billy Gillespie was on the hot seat the moment he was hired. Acie Law is proving he was Gillespie’s meal ticket.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

the seat is always hot in places like Carolina, Kansas and Kentucky...

shows how important it is to have the right AD and the right Head Coach…honestly I’m a little concerned with who we replace Lew with. Say what you will about the guy, he knows how to make things work.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I honestly know nothing

about ADs.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Neither do I...

other than the fact they can have a HUGE impact on the success, failure or demise of a program…just ask K-State

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed big time

a lot of people don’t want to admit it, but he has put KU athletics into a different mode….It’s no coincidence we have had the most successful years in the schools history in the last few.

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah but he's pushing what 63ish...

I would guess…this is definitely his last stop and this past year he qualified for an increased pension based upon his time at KU so who knows. I’m hoping for maybe 5 more years myself.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

T-bag

up with the bases loaded and 2 outs….hard not to root for him here

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:18 PM CST reply actions  

Oh Mizzou & A&M started

I didn’t even realize.

Between college bball, the US in the WBC, and this great thread with all you guys, there is a lot going on.

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:20 PM CST reply actions  

Colorado is giving K-State a game so far too..

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Colorado's MO this year.

Play tough or play dead.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

they just can't seem to get over the hump..

been in some games late but not enough firepower

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

And yeah

I’ve got all that plus studying for my exam tomorrow. I should just give it the ole college try and get by with wit and unorthodox answers. Or just write down the theme song from Fresh Prince and be done with it.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

its all about the unorthodox answers

just try and make your sentences as long as possible and they might just get bored n give ya half credit

by Danny Satan on Mar 7, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I've gotten through

a lot of tests with unorthodox answers. I was given 49 of 50 points on my first college essay because I wrote 4 pages about why the topic was terrible and how it could have been improved. I lost a point because I didn’t actually answer the prompt.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I got lucky, really.

It was a topic that was personal to me, so I had a lot to say and it was very easy for me to stand on my soapbox.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, OK.

Still.

I’m going to try it, at least once.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Have at it!

It’s a great memory, if nothing else.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Or slip a 20 in.

Professors don’t make so much they’re not bribeable.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

$50 might get a conversation started.

Twenty will just get a glare.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Mar 7, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Good to know the going rate Professor.

Though my son goes to school at Central Missouri, so it’s only like five bucks for an A over there.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

rofl

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Just an FYI.

In 10 minutes, we’re switching over to the KU thread.

At least, if y’all want.

It goes up at 1:30, CST.

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

I wouldn't hate Jeter

if he didn’t play for the Yankees. If he played for the Pirates or the Royals his whole career, people wouldn’t be all over his nuts.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

Hoooo

That was a great pitch to get Chipper.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:27 PM CST reply actions  

If he wouldn't have swung at a

terrible 3-0 pitch there’d be 2 on 1 out for Wright, I don’t like Chipper

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Me neither.

A friend of mine’s mom hates him with every fiber of her being. It’s hilarious to watch her root for his failure.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

He got in trouble there because he was a prominent born again Christian:

Then got caught cheating on his wife. Helluva baseball player though.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, Clemens is major-league creepy.

Gave all his kids names starting with K(after strikeouts) and let his wife use steroids so she’d look better in a bikini. Then he’s screwing half a dozen women on the side anyway.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I think

people here turned on him, too. They interviewed a bunch of people on the news and everyone just kept mocking him. It was a great feature.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I just rec'd like 3 of these

comments. I absolutely hate Clemens.

I just got back from your mom's basement.

by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions  

OK, new thread.

New thread

New thread

New thread

If you want to talk baseball, or just hang out, stay over here. I’ll try and be active in both.

But, the KU OGT thread is up.

Let’s destroy Texas, eh?

by rockchalk on Mar 7, 2009 1:35 PM CST reply actions  

Youkilis

proving why Billy Beane was falling all over himself to get him. Billy Beane loves him some walks.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:39 PM CST reply actions  

WHAT

Adam Dunn with a walk and not a strikeout?????

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:42 PM CST reply actions  

Screw him.

He forever owes Troy Tulowitzki the ROY award.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think so

his rookie year was out of this world

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

Had you seen Tulo play a lot his rookie year, you may not feel the same. People talk about how great Braun’s numbers are, but Tulo’s numbers on offense weren’t so bad, and Tulo was far and away the best defensive SS in the game that year. He was unbelievable.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Tulo's defense was unreal his rookie year...

last year took a step back with injuries but he’s got the potential to be great.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 7, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

oh yeah

and I drafted Tulo last year in fantasy and then he disappointed me with his injury, I think he’ll bounce back this season, though.

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I think this year

you’re going to see a really solid season. I’m hoping for a .270/.350, ~20 HRs, 80 RBIs.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh yeah.

I’m all Colorado sports….except for KU basketball.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to forget

that Braun had an unbelievably high number of errors as a 3B. Notice how he’s in LF, the least important defensive position, ever since then? There was a reason.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

and Braun's was pretty god-awful

so much that he had to switch positions.

I’m biased cause I picked him up early that year and I’ve had him on my fantasy team ever since, fantasy love affair.

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Ohhh no

Joey Votto crushed one….I think he’s going to be pretty good

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:53 PM CST reply actions  

AP - Dayton Stuns No. 16 Xavier 63-60 in A10 Tourney

Link to AP story here.

So, you take that Rockchalk.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Mar 7, 2009 1:53 PM CST reply actions  

nice burn

post it on the other thread too so everyone sees his future team’s misfortunes

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

careful rockchalk.

that comment could be altered to make you look bad.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Sexist

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by James Quinn on Mar 7, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn.

Votto trying to take out the restaurant out there. I guess the announcers were right when they said the OFs don’t matter much when Peavy is on the mound.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:53 PM CST reply actions  

You take him out of Petco

and he’s very average.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Apparently

Pedroia spends free time thinking about Bay’s underwear. Cool.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 1:58 PM CST reply actions  

Am I the only one

that kind of hates Pedroia? Maybe it’s the whole Red Sox thing

by I need more Esteban on Mar 7, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah

I think he’s a good player, but is this generation’s Jeter. A solid MI who gets a TON of love because he plays for the right team.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm with you

I hate Jeter, despite his talent, because people want to put him in the talk for greatest SS ever and he doesn’t belong anywhere near that. That he has a Gold Glove award is an absolute travesty.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Great commercial featuring Pedroia.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 2:05 PM CST reply actions  

LaTroy Hawkins!

I have fond memories of his time in Colorado. He was part of what I called the “Triumvirate of Suck” in the Rox bullpen. Excellent.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 2:08 PM CST reply actions  

lol

Hawkins just threw a 56 foot pitch.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Angel Berroa

loves those!

I just got back from your mom's basement.

by Warden11 on Mar 7, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

BOOM BABY

announcers talking up Johnson as the Americans make it 4-2.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 2:21 PM CST reply actions  

Saw that.

Must be a 3 inning pitcher. They have pretty strict pitch counts in this tournament though, so no one can throw more than 65 pitches in early games.(I think)

by hunter s. royal on Mar 7, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

70, I believe.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol

Braun calling Jeter off was hilarious.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 2:30 PM CST reply actions  

Okay

Davey Johnson spends all this time saying that the players who start will likely play the whole game. Game 1 and he’s pulling Jeter for Rollins. Just couldn’t help himself, I guess.

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by A.J. Haefele on Mar 7, 2009 2:34 PM CST reply actions  

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