Collins to return for Senior season.
by SweedishHamma on Mar 28, 2009 2:06 PM CDT
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PrintAs of right now, Sherron Collins will be back for his Senior season. I found this on the Topeka-Capital Journal:
After KU’s 67-62 loss to Michigan State in the Sweet 16 Friday at Lucas Oil Stadium, Collins said his plan was to return to KU for his senior season.
“What I’m saying right now is I’m coming back,” said Collins, who added that he is in fine shape financially and has the blessing of his family to return. “Coach (Bill Self) has to tell me something, if coach doesn’t tell me nothing, I’m coming back. Whatever he decides is what I’m gonna do.”
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“I wouldn’t be surprised at all,” he said. “I don’t think they’ve thought about it. I’ll get some information for them. They need to do what’s best for them. I do have an opinion on both of them, what I think would be best for their life, but my opinion sometimes doesn’t always matter in certain situations.”
Aldrich was less demonstrative than Collins about his plans, but spoke primarily about wanting to improve.
“I could go down the list of 50 things I need to get better on,” Aldrich said. “That’s ultimately what I want to do is set myself up for having a successful career. Whether it’s this year or next year or two years from now, I just want to have the best opportunity to be successful.”
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Did you not read the ESPN article from a couple of days ago?
Pretty much, Sherron said that he would do whatever Self said.
In any case, this is outstanding news.
Thanks for the scoop, Sweed.
Nah, I didn't.
I just think that’s interesting. I wonder if all players trust him this much.
by A.J. Haefele on Mar 28, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
STFU
If that’s true I would be so happy, obviously.
That said, I think he should declare and do the pre-draft stuff so he learns what he needs to work on.
Although he did say this, it doesn't ultimately mean he's staying
in the context he was saying that he’ll look at where he is projected to be drafted and then decide….I think if people are saying definite 1st round then he’ll go…..but that might not be the case so we could have a very experienced senior next year sill leading a relatively young team.
by I need more Esteban on Mar 28, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions
I highly, highly doubt he would be a definite 1st round.
From everything I’ve read, he’s still second round.
I'd say right the odds of him staying are
3:1
Cole’s family has some financial problems and he would be drafted higher than Sherrezie right now. Though, as weak as he’s been around the basked lately, I’ld love to see him work some more with Danny.
The Snozberries taste like Snozberries
Yeah.
He definitely needs a lot more work.
So did Julian back then, and everyone figured (himself included, I’m sure) that he would get that coaching in the NBA. But you don’t always get that.
I think Cole needs to come back.
A problem with the NBA
is they draft guys based on their potential. The league is in such a rush to get guys into their money making machine that they don’t worry about how developed the players actually are. They always give the “They’ll get that coached up in the NBA”, but more often than not it doesn’t happen that way. COLLEGE is where the players need to be developing, not on the bench somewhere in the league. Once drafted, those guys have 3 years to show something or else their rookie contract expires and they’re forced to try to bounce around the league on one-year deals, which is not the ideal way to develop into a valuable roster player.
by A.J. Haefele on Mar 28, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
very true
the NBA doesn’t give a crap about these kids careers, it’s them trying to find the next superstar on every draft pick.
by I need more Esteban on Mar 29, 2009 3:01 AM CDT up reply actions
i disagree with this statement..
you can tell from the begining of the season to now, that Brandon Rush and Roy Hibbert have improved leaps and bounds. I mean, early on Hibbert couldn’t even get a shot up without being blocked, now he is hitting hook shots, and 20 foot jump shots, and brandon alone has become an all round outstanding player, his shot all though good when coming into the NBA has improved, and you hear the quotes from coaches and officials about the coaching assistants working daily with players on their shots and approach to games. I think they DO get coached alot, although i do agree that kids should stay in school, but to say they do not get coached and helped to develop in the NBA is in correct.
Julian wright has improved as well, as you can see from his numbers and play on the court. I think most organizations do care about their players and want them to succeed.. although you are right it all comes back to money.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
I'll offer a rebuttal
It isn’t true that they never get coached, and I’m sure my tangent came off sounding that way. Coaching DOES go on, but in my mind, college is where they should be getting developed. The NBA isn’t helping that by consistently drafting kids who are CLEARLY not ready to play and stunting their growth. I think the Andrew Bynums of the world are much rarer than the Will Avery types.
I think had Wright stayed at least one more year (I’m under the impression he was a sophomore when he left), his transition to the NBA would have been much better. Instead, he’s had to toil on the bench and work on his own. His game clearly was not ready to play in the league, but the NBA can’t help but drool all over those guys and he ended up a lottery pick (I believe). There was no punishment for him not actually being ready for the pros except that maybe he wasn’t a Top 5 pick.
To me, the NBA Draft is the most baffling of all sports. You have mountains of evidence about who can play and who can’t, and every single year teams are wasting draft picks on guys like Kris Humphries just because they’re tall. You have teams drafting European guys who don’t even start for their own clubs 5th overall. It’s absolutely insane how the NBA goes about bringing about their talent. It seems like half of the first rounders every year are gone and forgotten about by the time their rookie contracts expire.
The NBA falls in love with athletes because that’s what they can market. They can tell these 21 year old college kids they’re going to make millions and they’re going to get all the coaching they need to become stars in the league. Sometimes it actually happens, but most of the time, the guy gets drafted 12th overall and teams suddenly realize he isn’t ready and can’t play. Like, at all.
You know, that I read all that I just typed, I don’t think I said very much. Oh well.
by A.J. Haefele on Mar 30, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
It may have come off as a little harsh
and I definitely didn’t mean that they don’t care about them once they get drafted, once they are on their team, they want them to succeed as much as anyone and I definitely didn’t say that they don’t get coached or developed in the NBA.
What they don’t care about is the long-term careers of the kids before the draft….they are thinking about what they can get out of them now and they are not usually thinking about whether it would be in the kids best interests to play a full year in college instead of sitting the bench and playing for their team while they “hope” that they develop.
by I need more Esteban on Mar 30, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I response to both SlamDunk & Esteban;
first esteban, i commented under yours both times because it was the latest comment posted, both of these posts have really been in response to you and slamdunks post, so i didn’t mean to make it sound like you said something you did not.
i feel the same way about the NBA draft. It has become and has been for sometime draft the best athlete and lets see what he can turn into. The same goes for the drafting of 7’0 European bench warmers, most was done on the basis of drafting for need i’m sure, although i have no evidence to back this statement i see no other reason why they would be drafted unless a playoff team needed a big to stretch the d and clog the middle when the starter needed rest, this old drafting strategy is fading quickly. But the NBA draft is more and more becoming like the MLB draft in the fact that most teams are drafting the best player. With the best skills and best abilities, no matter the age/size/position.. its hard to find any new superstar out their in the NBA that is not a great athelete (although Yao is far from a spectacular athlete, shaq is old etc.)
I agree that college is where most development of players occurs and that it should occur their and it will mostly continue to occur there. But you look upon the NBA’s rookies, and rarely do they start, i. e. Kobe road the bench his rookie season, and even players that have been through 3 years of college ride the bench, a la Brandon Rush. This is such a subjective arguement on both of our sides, because there are cases for both, and really their should be no debate between us, kids should go to college and learn/develop and grow.
I think it is completely understandable for a NBA Franchise to not care about where the kid went to school, and how long they were there. This shouldn’t even come into play, at all in the drafting, its the real world. These kids are joining big business, and are signing big time contracts. The care and decisions should be made by the kids parents/guardians/coaches/kids beforehand.. If they decide that he should go into the draft, then the past should not matter, and he will be poked and prodded like a piece of meat and bought by the highest bidder and made to perform on stage with everyone else. It sounds terrible but its reality. The fact is the teams draft these kids and try and put them into situations to develop, and sitting on the bench and practicing with an NBA team will help to develop a rookie.
Ok enough of that, i agree with you both really. Although i am starting to lean more and more towards opening up the NBA draft to out of high school, oddly enough.
If i come off in any way offensive or mean or harsh in my comments, i apologize, none are meant that way, i’m really just playing devils advocate at this point. And always after i write as much as i have, i fear it will make no sense at all, and if so, let me know, heh, i need sleep.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
not offensive or harsh in any way
just your side of the argument (that’s what we’re here for:)
You make good points. I think there are certain exceptions to every situation too. I think you bring up a good point about the European fascination, it gets pretty rediculous sometimes. Sometimes I wonder if these NBA people even scout their own country and if they have any idea what the hell they’re doing. Take last year, at the end of the first round, at the 20th pick the Bobcats took, Center Alexis Ajinka; at 23 the Sonics took Serge Ibaka (I swear they take a foreign player every season), and at 25, the TrailBlazers acquired Nicholas Batum, a guard from France.
Now I don’t know if any of these guys will pan out, Batum in his rookie season looks like he’s transitioning ok, while Ajinka isn’t doing anything. The reason they took these guys over the man that hit a game tying three in this nations national title game? Potential. They look at Mario Chalmers and see a good player, but they look at some unkown foreign player and see potential of what they can mold him into when over half the time it’s very false hope.
I’ll give you one more example of the stupidity of NBA brass and how they look at potential. You all saw it in last years draft, the 30th pick of the Boston Celtics came around and I know I was sitting there thinking: “Wow, Mario Chalmers is going to get to play on the world champs with fellow Jayhawk Paul Pierce, what a great situation”….wrong…..Former Jayhawk, J.R. Giddens was selected by Danny Ainge ( a GM I used to have respect for until that pick). It’s pretty safe to say that Chalmers is already a better pro than Giddens but in 3 years if it has changed then I will eat crow heavily. NBA scouts saw a freak athlete in Giddens and thought, “hm we could really do something with that, he’s got potential.” Instead of looking at the clutchness, great defense, and all around amazing player Chalmers is….luckily Pat Riley was smart enough to snatch him up and he got a starter in the 2nd round.
I might have started to ramble there and if so, sorry, I just get so sick of how stupid NBA executives are these days….I know it’s not easy but there are some no brainers that they miss all the time. Oh and by the way, I said from the very beginning that the Blazers should take Durant number 1 over Oden because of Oden’s lack of durability and Durant’s overall amazingness (word?)…..Sorry Pritchard
by I need more Esteban on Mar 31, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
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