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A KenPom Preview: Michigan State

As always, these are based off of the KenPom pages. Here is Michigan State's.

Opening Thoughts

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. I forgot how absolutely nerve-racking the Sweet 16 is. Really, though, there isn't a whole lot to be nervous about. For one, and more importantly, we've already surpassed expectations. And even the heightneed, ballooned expecations of early March were to get to the Sweet 16. We're already there. Everything else is absolutely 100% gravy. So, no need to put undue expectations on the team. If they lose, awesome season. If they win, incredible.

And for two, this game is a toss-up. A 50/50 affair. I would be equally unshocked with both a win or a loss. So, just let the ball tip and see where we end up.

Relax.

The Background

Wait, did you hear? Apparently, these two teams matched up in the regular season. Still, with how much has changed in the past two months-and-change, I don't think you can learn too much at all from the January 10th contest. Sure, Sparty has gotten better since too, I'm sure, but I highly doubt they've made the same strives we've made.

But, just in case you think it plays a role. They whooped us up pretty good in the first half, with our young'uns still learning how to react on the road and the massive Breslin Center crowd had fun yelling and stuff. Sherron turned the ball over approximately 187 times in the first half, and our offense was absoltuely, completely non-existent. And then, there was halftime. When the second half started, we were a more composed team. We were no longer handing the ball over or offering them free paths to the basket or missing wide open shots. In the second half, we outscored the Spartans. Were a potential Sherron Collins three in transition to find the bottom of the net, cutting the lead to only 6 with plenty of time left, we may be talking about an entirely different game.

So, even in a game that was played so long ago (to show you how long ago it was, check this out: on the same day, Missouri played Nebraska to open up Big 12 play. They lost to the Cornhuskers, and scored only 41 points. Fastforward to Thursday night, where they scored triple-digits against the best defense in the country to move on to the Elite freakin' Eight. Yeah, things have changed) we are practically a brand new team now, we could have won. Add in what should be a neutral environment (although, who knows just how loud KC and Company can be), plenty of road experience if there is to be a crowd, and we should be money.

Rest of the preview, well, you know where it is...

Star-divide

The Offense

The inconsistent aspect of Tom Izzo's squad. They'll have some games where they are hitting their shots, working it down low and (shock of the century) getting out in transition for easy hoops, and score 94 (vs. Oklahoma State) or even 78 (@ Ohio State). And then there are some games where none of that is really going on, and they only manage 54 (@ Michigan, @ Purdue). I have absolutely no idea which unit is going to show up Friday night.

Four Factors

  • eFG% (126th) -- Talk about inconsistent. This should be key. If Sparty's hot, well then that just sucks. And, there isn't a whole lot we can do. So, just pop out and stick hands in faces, try and force them to take jump shots. they aren't Dayton, but they still are more of a slashing team who like to work towards the goal. Keep them on the perimeter and make them get crazy hot to score.
  • Turnover% (198th) -- The main key, though, as far as Sparty's offense goes. They aren't good at holding on to the ball. Like, whatsoever. And I know that we're no Missouri when it comes to actually stealing the ball, but hopefully we can have a good day. I have a feeling we'll need extra possessions to win this one, and this should be the easiest way to pick them up.
  • Off. Reb% (4th) -- Yeah, this is what concerns me. We actually held them lower than their season average the first time we played, and that was with Cole and a host of players who had absolutely no idea what was going on. Hell, Matt freakin' Kleinmann got 3 first-half minutes. Nobody showed a single flash of boxing out or rebounding or any of that in the first game. And, while we still aren't great at it, we're much better. Box out, my friends.
  • FTA/FGA (39th) -- Like I said, they like attacking the rim. It's fine if you foul some of them, while others are quite dangerous from the free throw line. In any case, stay out of foul trouble Cole, please. And try not to foul.

Misc.

  • 3-Point FGA/2-Point FGA (22% 308th) -- See what I mean? They don't like the long ball. Chris Allen and Durrell Summers both shot in triple digits, but that's it. They'll take open ones, and they aren't terrible at actually making them, but their offense is outside-in. So, pack it in, Bill. Make them hit the long balls to beat you, please.

The Defense

While their offense is incredibly inconsistent, their D is quite stout. Like, always. Typical, rough, in-your-face D that we've been seeing in East Lansing for years.

Four Factors

  • eFG% (89th) -- Not as good as I expected, actually. We'll likely get some open looks, but most likely not from three. They lock up the perimeter, more-or-less, making it paramount you hit the few open chances you get (coughBradycough). However, they'll give you your fair share of chances inside. Hey, Cole, you ready? Plus, Sherron should be able to get into the lane a bunch, as well.
  • Turnover% (192nd) -- Way lower than I thought. This is awesome, because I'm petrified of teams that force turnovers, with our turnover-happy tendencies as it is. They still have the potential to turn us over, but we should be in pretty good shape. Hopefully.
  • Off. Reb% (6th) -- Think the Spartans dominate the boards? Geez. Again, the key here is the Morris Twins plus Mario Little. Gotta rebound, gotta get those invaluable second-chance points. They will likely be the difference in the game.
  • FTA/FGA (147th) -- Eh. Nothing to see here, move along.

The Players

Michigan State plays quite a few players, as they are incredibly deep, but there are 7 key players. That's who I focused on below:

Kalin Lucas (G) -- Big Ten Player of the Year. Not that good of a shooter, with a decent stroke from 3, but draws fouls pretty well and never gets called for them himself. Keep him out of the lane, though, and you should be fine. Sherron?

Travis Walton (G) -- Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year. He blew up against USC, but is usually extremely reserved on the offensive end, serving exclusively as a role player. Has zero long-range, hanging out around the mid-range game. He's almost assuredly where we'll hide Tyshawn, and shouldn't be hard to contain.

Durrell Summers (G) -- Probably their best perimeter shooter, Summers can also drive. The real underrated star of the Spartans, IMO, and will liekely be guarded by Brady. Unless, of course, we go crazy like the last time we played them and slide Brady on Raymar, leaving our 4 on the 6'4" Durrell. I actually think we'll go with the latter, meaning Summers could explode. Watch out.

Raymar Morgan (F) -- He's been cold for awhile, but could explode at any second and has off-the-charta athleticism. Whoever is on him, whether it is Brady or the Law Firm, keep him out around 15-feet. He's solid out there, but not nearly as consistent as when he's driving towards the lane and stuff.

Goran Suton (C) -- The number one reason I'm freaking out, really. Dude was just recovering from an injury when we played them last, and only played 20 minutes. He's pretty much a stud, though, who can occasionally pop out and knock down threes. Still, I'll live with that shot as long as he doesn't live on the offensive glass. That, I won't tolerate.

Chris Allen (G) -- Another pretty solid long-range bomber, he's all right at driving the lane. In a lot of ways, he's a helluva lot like the player who starts in front of him, Durrell Summers. Not quite as good, but virtually the same player. Play him the same way.

Delvon Roe (F) -- Another athletic freak. Dude is almost as ridiculous of a rebounder as Goran Suton is, we need to make it a priority to box him the hell out. Minimal offensive impact, and doesn't have a whole bunch of range, but can finish quite well really close in.

The Keys

1) Offensive Glass (i.e. 3M, Show Up) -- This is where the game should be decided. Michigan State makes up for all of their other struggles, and there are quite a few, by being the second-or-third best rebounding team in all of the land. They freaking dominate you on the glass, even if you have 3 Dennis Rodmans on your frontline. So, while Cole will surely show up and get his double-figures, the key will be the matchup between 3M (Marcus, Markieff, Mario) and Michigan State's Delvon Roe, Marquise Gray and Draymond Green. If our 3M can outscore them off of the second-chance points and pile up the defensive rebounds, we should be in fine shape. So, please, whatever it takes, play well 3M. Please, please, please.

2) Three-Ball -- I'll keep on saying it. We managed to sneak through Minneapolis without really shooting the three well. That won't fly against the better teams we'll be facing from here on out. Please, somebody needs to get hot from out there. Sherron is shooting all right, not outstanding but pretty solid. But the rest of the team sucks from way out there.

3) Pressure-Free -- All of the pressure is off. While the game is really a 50/50 affair, nearly everyone I've seen in the media (save Digger) is choosing Sparty. No disrespect, Bob Stoops, but none-pressure, neither. Like I said in the opening, we've already exceeded expectations. So, go out there and have fun. Play loose.

After all, we're wearin' the blues.

Remember last time we wore the blues in the NCAA Tournament? Yeah, last year's Final Four. That was then that team finally felt truly like an underdog, and they responded with two incredible games en route to a National Freakin' Championship.

So, let's have the same attitude. Pressure-free, no need to go out and play up tight.

Wearin' the blues.

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i agree...

…about the nerve-wracking thing. We’re not supposed to be nervous, since this team wasn’t supposed to compete this year and they’ve already surpassed expectations. But man, the anticipation is still killing me. I thought I learned my lesson about not inflating expectations after our first-round tourney losses, but I think it was un-learned thanks to last year. I want revenge on MSU. I want the Big 12 to get another team to the Elite 8. I want to keep up with Mizzou. Most of all I want to continue this ride with a young team that has provided us with surprises and excitement all year. I’m really proud of these guys. It’s been so fun. Let’s keep it going.

by knayte on Mar 27, 2009 10:02 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

knayte...welcome to RCT...

glad to have ya hope we’ll be seeing more of ya…

one thing I wanted to touch on and that is the desire to keep up with MU…it’s one of those things that both schools I’m sure use as a barometer in some respect for how they view the season. The reality is though that unless you win the NC it doesn’t make a whole lot of difference, and I think right now Missouri is probably playing better on a more consistent basis then us.

The tourney is about matchups so it’s hard to judge a season based on how far you go vs another team, but you can base the overall success of the program very easily and that’s where we would be many, many, MANY years ahead. Missouri deserves all their success this year and accolades but just like our one year in football doesn’t put us on the map….one year in basketball won’t do that for them. They obviously have some pretty solid track record at times for the basketball program so that’s not a completely fair comparison but you get what I’m saying hopefully…sustained success is the measure of greatness.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 27, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right...

…no matter what happens this year our program and history are obviously miles ahead of MU. But I also think that the rivalry is so much more fun when both sides are competing at a high level. So I can’t help rooting (a little) for MU this year. They’ve got a coach with a ton of integrity and a team that plays great basketball. It’s better, in my opinion, to beat a good MU basketball team than to continually go through the schadenfreude of watching their program being run into the ground by incompetency. I hope their program continues to improve. I agree…they are playing more consistently than we are. And I don’t feel great about tonight’s matchup. But man, can you imagine a Final Four matchup with Mizzou? Unlikely I know, but I can dream…

This is a great blog, btw. Keep up the good work.

by knayte on Mar 27, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

couldn't agree more...

There are a lot of guys around here that might not remember when this rivalry was really good…there were a couple years with Quin but it really does thrust the rivalry and the teams onto a national stage and it’s better for Kansas to be facing that type of competition and intensity.

You’re also dead on that they are a very class act team right now and you have to respect that. The play with more intensity than almost any team they face on the court and they go about their business their way and surprise a lot of folks. That said I wish them all the success but I do always want to beat them out for the Big 12 championship and also see them generally fall short of the final four, not trying to be mean RMN but you’d have to admit the same :D

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 27, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Very good preview.

Really spot on. It seems like a game of this stature should be getting hype, but with the media hyping the Big East (CAN THEY GET 5 TEAMS IN THE FINAL 4? WE’LL TALK WITH DIGGER IN A BIT!), that might be part of the reason why.

One player that I’d also mention for state is Draymond Green. He’s an undersized 4 (6’6", but 235#), and he’s been getting a bit more playing time lately. The thing to mention though is that his rebounding % are on par with Suton’s and Roe’s, and if there are as many fouls as there were last game, you might be seeing quite a bit of him. Still a bit raw on the offensive end, but as a high basketball IQ, and as a State fan, someone who I’m pretty excited to see develop in the coming seasons.

by Pete Rossman on Mar 27, 2009 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

thanks for the tidbit Spartanfan...

you guys are welcome to stop by for the Open Game Thread we’ll be having here tonight.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 27, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

just don't be offended

when we call Izzo names. It’s all in good fun (mostly).

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on Mar 27, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've heard it all before

Angry midget, blah blah blah…it doesn’t really faze me, because of what they don’t call him: a choker, a loser, etc.

As for the live thread, I’m going to be watching this nail-biter in downtown East Lansing tonight. Usually the cops don’t break out the tear gas ‘til the Final Four, so I think I’m safe.

by Pete Rossman on Mar 27, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watching amongst friends is always a good thing...

I’ll be MIA tonight as well, once we get to the round of 16 it starts to become more of an event for me and a bar w/beers becomes a little more necessary too.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 27, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

just remember,

you’re not young anymore.

With the weather you had yesterday hitting us tonight (supposedly), it seems like a good night to sit in and watch some bball.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on Mar 27, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice
but with the media hyping the Big East (CAN THEY GET 5 TEAMS IN THE FINAL 4? WE’LL TALK WITH DIGGER IN A BIT!)

Wow, cracking up with that one, good stuff

by I need more Esteban on Mar 27, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

An interesting thing...

I saw an eyebrow-raising stat in an AP story about our performance this year going into this game…that Bill Self is 7-1 in rematch games against opponents he played against earlier in the year.

Just thought I’d throw that out there and get everybody’s hopes, as well as my own, up even further.

by tequilaprophet on Mar 27, 2009 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

nice find....

do we know who the 4 losses were against??

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 27, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any one catch Fran Franschilla on Mike and Mike today...

he made a comment that Cole Aldrich could be the #2 pick in the draft if he comes out this year? He went on to say that he thinks he’ll stay but he should be top 5 easily. Now I know Fran is a Big12 advocate but #2? How could he not go if he was that high, I don’t think he is but how could he not??

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 27, 2009 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah I heard that

but I think he may be going a little too far with that

by I need more Esteban on Mar 27, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still don't trust his scoring ability at the next level.

He doesn’t pass great, either. Top 10, I can understand. Top 5? Not so sure about that.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on Mar 27, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way

he wouldn’t go before Thabeet for instance. Or Harden. Or hell, Tyreke Evans, to name a few.

by fetch9 on Mar 27, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I disagree

I think he would (and should) go before Thabeet. He’s better offensively and is already stronger physically than Thabeet. Thabeet’s a waif down low.

Boy, Evans looked good last night, though, didn’t he?

by Bensa on Mar 27, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like him before Thabeet as well...

Thabeet at 7’3" is a role player on his college team and has limited offense and anytime he faces a solid big man one on one he isn’t great defensively…he’s best in help defense and that’s where he creates problems.

Griffin is #1 I would think

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 27, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not

saying where I would take him, I’m saying that Thabeet will go before him. At least he would if they both come out this year.

by fetch9 on Mar 27, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

he didn't impress me at all....

hadn’t watched much of him until the tourney but he definitely struggled.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 27, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know this is off subject but....

What kind of impact would Calipari leaving for Kentucky (probably not gonna happen) have on Memphis’s recruiting class?

by jco8394 on Mar 27, 2009 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

check the fanshot I just threw up...

this may be a non-issue before the talk really starts…that said if Calipari did leave Memphis anyone that has already signed their LOI would probably be sticking around I would guess….anyone else Wall? Cousins? either follow Calipari or headed elsewhere but I don’t think they stay at Memphis.

Hell look what happened at UMass after Calipari left…it’s never been the same

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 27, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly...he may eventually but not now and not for Kentucky

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 27, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh -

my brain feels slimy just thinking about him…

The Snozberries taste like Snozberries

by labbadabba on Mar 27, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

K, well...

KC in Indy! Just got here. Already been to the stadium and picked up our tickets, at the hotel just outside of downtown right now. Heading back over to the stadium in just a few to check out the scene, and go to the pep rally. Seen a few KU fans around the stadium earlier, but a TON of Louisvile fans. More KU fans SO FAR than MSU fans, but I doubt that holds true. Although, there were quite a few cars with KU plates, flags, stickers, etc. on the way here.

Have a good OGT, and ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK to the Elite Eight! I’ll have photos to post later.

ROCK CHALK!!

"We're still the Champs 'til somebody can take it from us!!"

by Andy Edwards on Mar 27, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

awesome...glad to hear you made it safely...

and enjoy…!!!

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen on Mar 27, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

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