Statistical Rearview: Kansas vs Oklahoma
One word, Wow!!! I was sweatin bullets late in this one but the Jayhawks did not let us down. In what will likely be the game of the year in the Big 12 Sherron Collins refused to let this team lose. Flashes of Missouri crossed the minds of many and then a game of anything you can do I can do better ensued. In the end only one could be left standing and that was the Jayhawks.
Hats off to the Sooners, with Blake Griffin sure this might be a different game but no apologies needed as Bill Self and his surprising Jayhawks picked up a HUGE conference road win catapulting themselves to first in the conference and the drivers seat to win the title. If you would have told me at the beginning of the season that we would be in this position I would have said I don't believe it. Great game, great win, a big one coming up on Sunday. On to the stats.
Game flow breakdown is interesting as you'll notice a couple of fairly large flatlines in this one from both sides. By the end though that isn't the case and the Hawks secured a solid win without having to sweat out any last second shot's.
More Stats, Charts and Breakdown after the jump...
Four factors to winning...well Cole single handidly took care of the rebounds, Sherron managed the field goal segment and the refs helped both teams with regard to free throws and in the end OU's need to foul gave us the edge. This team has improved in the turnover department but full court pressure still seems to give us fits at times. Tighten up that area and I really like our chances to scare some folks in the tourney.
Player impact once again littered with Cole and Sherron. Surprise of the night though belongs to Tyshawn Taylor. The guy had his breakout game of the year tonight and was instrumental in bringing us back from the early deficit and putting us in a position to protect a lead down the stretch. From there it was back in the hands of Sherron and Cole who dominated but didn't carry this team tonight which is what the ultimate goal should be. The two terms are not one and the same and when Sherron can have a less than stellar first half and us still have a lead, I like our chances.
A couple things in the team stat column worth mentioning, first 3 point FG%. At the start this looked like it coud be a major problem but finishing at 47% was huge. Secondly, look at the foul column...swallow your whistles guys we won't be upset. Fran might be a little disappointed but I promise you I won't be mad.
As far as player stats go we all know Sherron has major onions and Cole channeled his inner Nick Collison but special RCT mention to Tyshawn Taylor tonight. Down early Taylor was instrumental in bringing us back into this one and giving Collins the opportunity to own this one down the stretch. 26 pts on 60% shooting and only 1 turnover for Taylor...I really like this guy.
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Congrats guys
Collins was the man that second half. I totally agree with you on the free throws too. They called way to many fouls on both ways.
Personally I don’t think Aldrich has anywhere near the career game with Blake there but oh well, the game was determined by whose Seniors showed up and Collins was on NBA Jam style fire while our Senior guards couldn’t hit water if they fell out of a boat.
Again, congrats and I hope for a rematch in the Title game.
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Thanks for the classy post.
And yes, I agree with just about everything. The refs were terrible, blowing way way way too many whistles, and the absence of Blake hurt a lot. I’ve been saying for weeks that we would beat y’all down in Norman, but now I’m convinced we wouldn’t have.
However, in another month (not quite, but close), in OKC, on a neutral floor, I think we can take you down. It should be another delightful game, though, and I really hope we get to play it out. I really really really hope we do.
But, Collins is only a junior. And, with his relative shortness, you will probably be seeing plenty of him next year, as well…;)
Crap on Collins being a Jr.
The duel between him and Willie was classic.
That neutral court will be about as neutral as Kemper is for you guys too :p
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During our Open Game Thread one of our guys made the comment that...
Collins and Warren were playing H-O-R-S-E…I couldn’t have agreed more
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Collins v. Warren/Davis
reminded me of a K-State/Mizzou match in the late ’80’s, you know, when both were relevant. Anyhoo, late in the second half, Mitch Richmond and (I think it was) Derrick Cheivous went back and forth for about three possessions each knocking down long balls, really electric stuff.
About the same time period, Larry Bird and Dominique had a similar duel. Again, exciting action
Jayhawk baseball - a tradition since Steve Jeltz
JayhawkTom...
glad you’ve made the leap from RR to Rock Chalk Talk…you’ll notice we have our own local Jayhawk baseball guru over here in James Quinn…you’ll have to come around more often.
While I was too young to remember the Richmond, Cheivous battle I can imagine that would be a good one and last nights was for me a blast to watch.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
No doubt, Blake changes the game Cole had...
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
I don't think
with Blake in there OU would have had the same perimeter game however. I don’t think we can definitively say that OU would have won with Blake in there. The games would have been apples and oranges. Both teams played different games. Its a testament to the calibur player that Blake Griffin is. I’m really looking forward to a rematch in OKC.
Bill Self needs to be seriously discussed in the coach of the year conversations…..
Oh absolutely...I'm not saying Blake definitively changes the outcome...
just that Cole might not pull in 21 boards if he’s in there.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
LOVE the line on Collins
being on NBA Jam style fire. That’s pretty much what it was. He took Warren and Davis head on, three pointer for three pointer, and singlehandedly saved our asses on the offensive end.
This game was exactly we expected the team to be at the beginning of the season: Sherron Collins running the show and lighting it up outside, with Cole cleaning up the boards and dominating down low. T2 putting up a career high 26 points was just a huge bonus. One of the freshmen step up every game, with the exception of one: Missouri. Coincidence that we lost that one? I think not.
Sherron + Cole + one freshman stepping up + another month of experience = (length of tournament run)????
"I just trust what he does. And he has such a great ass..... er... grasp" -Chase "Booger" DanielS on Colt McCoy's "Ass-ets"
by Andy Edwards on Feb 24, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
Sherron Collins: All American?
Thoughts?
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 24, 2009 7:48 AM CST reply actions
I think it's going to be tough...
but he certainly made a case last night on a big stage
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
I hate Lawson!
All thanks to Dick Vitale.
"I just trust what he does. And he has such a great ass..... er... grasp" -Chase "Booger" DanielS on Colt McCoy's "Ass-ets"
by Andy Edwards on Feb 24, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
What a kickass game
Staying positive through the bad run to go down 22-8, deliriously happy while tyshawn busts out on national television, incredulous when we get up by 20, followed by shades of deja vu (and not in a good way) followed by me being reminded that we had the best player on the floor.
Sherron…what can I say. I am so glad you play for us. I’m so glad you’re an indestructible bulldog with balls of ice cold steel. And I’m so glad that everyone in the country got to see what you can do.
by 2.1 seconds left on Feb 24, 2009 8:52 AM CST reply actions
GAME OF THE YEAR?!?!?!?
Why would this be the game of the year? Because Kansas won? I guess I can choose Kansas at Missouri or Missouri at OKST, right?
KU beating OU in Norman with Griffin and his 24ppg and 12.5rpg on the bench ought to be viewed by any objective observer as virtually meaningless as far as determining which team is superior. And how the game can be called the “game of the year” when the best player in the country didn’t play is an example of extreme bias. One thing can be assumed, were Griffin to have played he would have had at least 15pts and 8reb and Aldrich would have had his numbers halved. A completely different game!
A good win for KU…but very lucky due to the circumstances…it’d be like be bragging if MU beat KU in Lawrence if Alrich or Collins didn’t play at all…you’d sure as hell object.
You can choose Missouri at Colorado for all I care....
I just thought it was the most exciting game I’ve seen in the Big12 so far. The back and forth three point bombing near the end was exciting to me and that’s why I say it. Sure Griffin was out but that’s what made OU’s effort, which I thought was outstanding, all the more impressive.
It was a fun game to watch hands down and to be honest I said it in the OGT before we had sealed the win that this was the Big12 game of the year so far. Again I said it before we won and if Kansas had lost I would have stuck by that…it was just a hell of a lot of fun.
Now that’s not to say that KU v MU might be better or even MU v OU but for me it was the most fun I had watching a game.
and make no mistake you would brag if MU beat KU in Lawrence regardless of injuries…I don’t doubt that and you’re more than welcome to it. Injuries are a part of any sport and you still have to play the game regardless, they don’t award wins and losses on paper with who might have played.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
I'm not sure
the game of the year status is influenced by injuries or even the pedigree of the teams involved. It could be a match-up between Siena and Coppin State that could have the same type of game. What made this exciting was the extreme point swings. Both teams swooned and both teams found their hyperjets and it all boiled down to a 5 minute high speed, one-upping, H-O-R-S-E match and neither team blinked.
Whether or not it was game of the year is for all those in the Blogshere to decipher but it certainly was as entertaining a game I’ve seen this year.
BTW, the Mizzou board had 200 comments on this game and you guys were talking it up as well, so its maybe not as far-fetched as you might believe.
good point on the Mizzou interest in this one...
clearly it was a big game, on big Monday with an exciting turn of events…things could change but I stand behind my belief that it was to this point the best game in the Big 12 this year…
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
I think it's got more to do with
the never-ending inferiority complex Misery fans have with KU.
“Oh no, KU is going to win ANOTHER conference title! We gotta at least not let them have the Game of the Year! Then, we would finally realize that we suck!”
"I just trust what he does. And he has such a great ass..... er... grasp" -Chase "Booger" DanielS on Colt McCoy's "Ass-ets"
by Andy Edwards on Feb 24, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
KC88..
you are truly a master of blowing up any sense of political correctness…and I’m glad.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
What do you mean?
"I just trust what he does. And he has such a great ass..... er... grasp" -Chase "Booger" DanielS on Colt McCoy's "Ass-ets"
by Andy Edwards on Feb 24, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Why is that so funny?
I don’t get it… What am i missing?
"I just trust what he does. And he has such a great ass..... er... grasp" -Chase "Booger" DanielS on Colt McCoy's "Ass-ets"
by Andy Edwards on Feb 24, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
you remind me of someone I knew in college 10 years ago when I started out at KU...
he just graduated last year.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
So, just what are you implying, Denver?
Hahaha, thanks.
"I just trust what he does. And he has such a great ass..... er... grasp" -Chase "Booger" DanielS on Colt McCoy's "Ass-ets"
by Andy Edwards on Feb 24, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
I bet what Denver means:
You will be such a valuable scholar at KU that they won’t let you go until you complete your PHD.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 25, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He's probably right though.
We’ll kick Mizzou’s ass by 25 this weekend and THAT will be the game of the year.
I just got back from your mom's basement.
by Warden11 on Feb 24, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+1,000,000 :D
"I just trust what he does. And he has such a great ass..... er... grasp" -Chase "Booger" DanielS on Colt McCoy's "Ass-ets"
by Andy Edwards on Feb 24, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions

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