Turner Gill Press Conference Open Thread
by Owen Kemp on Dec 14, 2009 9:59 AM CST
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Good morning to all and happy "new beginnings" day for Kansas football. We've spent the better part of the last 5 weeks wondering what the hell was going to happen with our program. Coach in limbo, then no coach at all, and now we've come full circle to the official introduction of a new coach.
Turner Gill will be announced and introduced in about an hour as the new Head Football Coach for the University of Kansas Jayhawks. The presser will be streamed live by KUAthletics.com and here is your link for the festivities(Click on live events at the top for both a audio and video feed .)
Sounds like we'll have a few people around to chat about what Coach Gill has to say. Will we find anything more out as it relates to coaches? Any insight into what offensive or defensive philosophies we might see? How he plans to mend the fences after a team clearly divided struggled this past season? Most importantly, being that he was a Husker, I want to know what he see's in Kansas? Not sure if any of those will get touched on or not, but I look forward to hearing what he has to say.
Also feel free to use this thread as a forum to discuss other areas of concern, optimism or blatant homerism as it pertains to the hire. Recruiting boost, personnel decisions, player moral, coaching changes, why Coach Gill?...throw it out there. Also, everyone understand that opinions on this are going to vary. It's ok to question the merits of the hire, that's part of being a fan....let's not bash someone just because they aren't dancing in the streets for this one. Either side has merit at this point as long as you have valid reasons. Feel free to argue your point, but keep this thing civil. I would assume regardless of where you stand, everyone here wants the Jayhawks to succeed.
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We can argue all day long about whether or not the TG knows his x's an o's or not, we'll have to wait and see.
I found myself questioning Mangino’s coaching decisions sometimes too though. Gill did a great job quickly picking up some well known assistants to help coach and recruit.
There is no doubt the guy was a solid player and learned from some of the best coaches in D1. He grew up in Texas and no one wants to talk about it, but he is the only black coach in the Big 12. He is one of only 11 black coaches in D1 football. In a sport where a majority of players are minorities, having a black head coach going in to kids living rooms to recruit is huge.
His daughter lives in and loves Lawrence and goes to KU, so I don’t see how you can question his commitment to KU. The guy told his players a week ago if KU offers the job he’s leaving Buffalo, something most coaches don’t have the balls or character to do.
I don’t think you could get two coaches with as much class as Bill Self and Turner Gill. TG and his assistants will bring in and utilize talent in a way that we are not used too (Similar to how Self coaches and recruits compared to Old Roy). Many of the naysayers will soon be shocked how quickly they forget about the previous coach at KU, what was his name? KU may actually finally get depth of talent whose potential can be fully utilized.
"I'll Be Deep In The Cold, Cold Ground Before I Recognize Missourah!" Abraham Simpson
Ron Prince was a black head coach in the Big 12
I didn’t see his skin color having any effect on his recruiting. I doubt Turner’s will either.
Personality….well that’s a different story. Although I always thought that Prince was pretty charismatic.
Who's next?
When Ron Prince showed up to a presser wearing a cowboy hat......
he turned in his brotha status. Plus he was trying to recruit to mancrappan, need I say more.
"I'll Be Deep In The Cold, Cold Ground Before I Recognize Missourah!" Abraham Simpson
I agree personality is very important, I don't know how mangino got by.
But when a 17 year old kid sees a head coach that looks like them and used to play like them, it goes a long ways.
"I'll Be Deep In The Cold, Cold Ground Before I Recognize Missourah!" Abraham Simpson
On the previous coach...
I don’t consider myself a naysayer on Coach Gill, but I will not quickly forget about what Coach Mangino did for our program.
This “demonizaton” of Mangino lately has been incredibly unfair, especially considering we still have only heard one side of he entire story (and probably won’t ever get to hear the other).
Fact is, the guy is chiefly responsible for building the program from ashes to respectible. I won’t ever forget those contributions.
Now, Coach Gill gets to take us from respectible to ?……..we shall see.
Who's next?
Agree -
I still cannot fully come down on Mangino. My brother was saying that Mangino gave a kid a concussion or something other made up BS. (But that’s what my brother is good at…making up BS) Anyway, I was more upset with Lew during this process than I ever was with MM.
My feelings were and are mixed on the whole matter. More sadness than anger for me…
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agree...
it was a sad situation, but it was a situation where Mangino did make his own bed. Whether you believe in his tactics or not they were what got him in the situation. He stood by them…clearly Lew felt he had to make a change based on them.
I’m grateful for what he accomplished and wished it could have ended differently but I don’t think that was ever an option. We truly did have guys ready to transfer in mass this year.
Daymond Patterson is one that has been pretty well thought of and his family is hugely supportive of Kansas. His dad came out on the slant last week and said Daymond was going to transfer to Ole Miss at semester and the decision was made in October.
This was not done based on Mangino’s coaching style or yelling etc. It was done based on his irrational decisions in regards to personnel and it was not only affecting him but others on the team and their football futures. He’s sticking with Kansas now…appears he always wanted to be here, but felt he had no other way out at the time.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
I couldn't find it under "Live Events" but I did under "Free Events"
Just fyi.
Camera is already streaming.
Who's next?
it's not working for me
But I’m on a Mac, and who knows how it will play with silverlight.
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 14, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
I'm working on an 8 year old machine
with Windows 2000. We can’t upgrade anything. I think my browser is IE 4. It’s hella ghetto. I’m suprised I can even pull up RCT.
My machine about dies everytime I try to pull up a modern site. Especially one with a lot of flash advertizing like Huff Post…
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that's impressive
A 2001-era PC still works? I still look fondly on the day I junked my Dell and bought my first MacBook.
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 14, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
Unfortunatly
I have to work with what they give me.
We still have a Mac Classic from 1993. Its been my mom’s office computer for years upon years.
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kusports.com also carrying live
So I’ll give that a shot.
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 14, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
very odd
Well, I’m enjoying the KUSports.com feed.
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 14, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
on the hire?
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I'm warming up to it...
I like the staff he’s putting together. My biggest fear was he would be one of those blindly loyal coaches that would bring his full staff from Buffalo. That didn’t happen, helped me a lot.
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I love it
I think this hire is just fine. Hes widely known in football circles as one of the best recruiters in the nation. He has hired very proven defensive coordinators and offensive coordinators. Hes a high energy young coach that will win the right way. I think everyone will be very pleasantly surprised.
I've finally had a chance to read
some of the articles about him and I do feel better about the hire than I need initially.
I think Denver got my hopes up with his Skip Holtz write-up. I blame Denver.
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I'm excited
I know Lew’s getting some flack for not going for broke with Fulmer or Tuberville, but Gill is young(ish), by all accounts talented (Whitlock notwithstanding), and should be a very strong recruiter in Texas. He’s gonna have a pretty crack coaching staff around him, so I’m not super concerned about the X’s and O’s. I’m just gonna sit back and watch him do his thing. I’m not expecting the world here the first year or two, but I think he’ll have some very positive moments early on.
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Fatlock just about knocked over the camera....
Can hardly wait for his questions to coach Gill.
Who's next?
Whitlock: “uh…Coach…do you think your race will make it difficult for you to do your job”
Gill: “Does it make it difficult for you to do yours”
we’ll kick it off just like we did with Mangino : )
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I was not invested
in KU football (or basketball, for that matter) when Mangino was introduced. I’d like to see a video of that exchange, though…
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simlar to RCT?
I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
hey...you get a long lunch...no complaining : )
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Here we go
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really?
I still have that douche with a microphone talking to someone off camera…
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oh no it's started...
Perkins talking…I don’t have sound though so if anyone wants to chime in feel free.
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I'm loving the amateur hour at KUSports.com right
Guy’s talking, phone rings with a porno-style bow-chika-bow-bow, picks it up, "I gotta call you back, I’m in the middle of a shoot.
Hilarious.
now I'm getting typing and IMing in the background
Seriously. What is with these guys.
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 14, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Looks like...
Brad Thorson is speaking at the moment…representing the upcoming senior group
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kinda cheesy
But pretty cool that a UB player messaged Thorson.
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 14, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Lew asked him to read it
some rah rah stuff from a Buffalo senior but some good thoughts.
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he hasn't even talked yet...
but I get your point…I think the players are genuinely ecstatic at this new opportunity in front of them and ready to get to it.
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Yeah...
“Players coach” is a term that gets thrown around a bit liberally, I think, but I think players will find Gill the polar opposite from Mangino. I’m not knocking Mangino’s style, but I think these players will respond very positively to HFCTG.
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there are different types of players coaches too...
it’s not inherently a bad thing.
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Yikes
Perkins gets a little fresh with Gill’s youngest daughter. That was awkward.
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hey do you think after today KU_Lew will be back?
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I hate that line!
I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
I'm sure you can replay it tonight on KUAthletics...pretty good feed and they usually archive things
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I'm sure WHB 810
will podcast it too if you want another option.
by hunter s. royal on Dec 14, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
I know!!!
Sheesh. Being a dad has made me so much more emotional than I ever was before…
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gotta say
I am thrilled about this. As you all know because I’ve said repeatedly, I grew up in Nebraska. Turner is truly a great person. If he’s half the coach he is a person, we’re in darn good shape.
ha...if he sold you we must be on the up and up : )
all kidding aside…what did it for you?
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beat me to it.
Oh wow. Long is there!
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 14, 2009 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Sustain a winning program...year after year
I needed to hear that. I needed to believe him. I do.
Who's next?
he threw in an answer at the end you probably like to...
doesn’t view this as a stepping stone
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Steven Foster
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I don’t think he’s a fullback…could be but I like him as a tailback
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Weren't UF and ND looking at him at FB
during the recruiting process?
yep...they wanted him to move...he didn't want to
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yep...
but I truly believe that nearly every position change will be back on the table and reevaluated. We might see guys move back to old spots, we might also see new moves we hadn’t before. Foster has experience as a Fullback and was in on the jumbo sets as a blocker.
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Spread offense but also use 2 back and single back under center.
4-3 attacking defense, force turnovers
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found a way
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defense will "cause turnovers"
This season, Buffalo forced 38 fumbles and recovered 22 of them. KU was 22/11.
Don't they all?
At least that’s what they’re all going to say here.
I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
priorities
“Recruit, Beat Missouri, Recruit, Win the North, Recruit, Win the Big 12”
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I find it hilarious he said beat Missouri
But hasn’t mentioned Nebraska, Missouri didn’t even win the north this year
by Bestofthewest on Dec 14, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Nebraska's Nebraska
But our rivalry started 160 years ago. :)
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 14, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, but Missouri is our rival. It’s not as if had Colorado won the North we would have wanted him to talk about beating Colorado. You play to your fanbase at these things, he knows that and saying he wants to beat Missouri is the right thing to say.
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Yeah i guess so,I think he's still a little pissy
because Missouri beat Buffalo last year. Just goofin I think he will be twice the coach Mangino was not literally of course
by Bestofthewest on Dec 14, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
maybe so...
I’m not real up to speed on the Husker MU rivalry but it seems to be one of late. Not sure if it was when he was there or not, but it might have played into why he said that.
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in fact...Mangino in 2001 did come into a North Division...
that CU had just won. I’m pretty sure none of us gave a crap if he wanted to beat CU
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Love that
Recruit, beat Mizzou, recruit, win the Big XII north, recruit, win the Big XII, recruit. And as we all know, if you win the Big XII, you have a good shot at playing for the national championship.
"create a dynasty."
Good good stuff, man. This guy is great.
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 14, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
Love it
Says he didn’t come here to use KU as a stepping stone to a national dynasty, but to create a football dynasty here at KU. Awesome.
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by Bensa on Dec 14, 2009 11:19 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Seems like...
the word on him was understated, soft spoken, and calm..
He seems calm, but he also seems very decisive and confident. Not quite what I was expecting. I’m pleasantly surprised. How can a parent not like this guy if he’s recruiting their son.
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disclaimer
Everybody can SAY the right things.
But, man, he really makes me believe he means it.
And I love the focus on LIFE and graduating.
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 14, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
agree...
you don’t win games at this press conference, but he certainly can renew some hope in the fan base and I think he’s doing that.
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Stroke the Alumni Association's ego
and the boosters will love you. He knows the game.
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That's kind of funny...
initially told his wife “we aren’t going to Buffalo”
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WOW
I had heard a lot of amazing things from my Nebraska friends about how awesome he is. They even made me look them in the eye as they said “You will love this guy. He is amazing. He will not fail”.
But after seeing this, im starting to think WOW, they are right. This guy seems almost not real.
by bkmhoxx on Dec 14, 2009 11:29 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
was it whitlock??
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no - weird -
it was about Auburn. I know its Alabama but sheesh, just throw that right out on the table. It wasn’t Whitlock
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I'm out of sound, what was the response?
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I'll get quote recaps up...
when the release them today so we can look back as well.
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The inevitable race question
Handled with aplomb by HFCTG.
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This was my only concern from the presser
Our head football coach will be speaking every week or so with Nebraska’s AD.
That’s unsettling.
I understand it. But I don’t have to like it.
Who's next?
1st Priority is connecting with
existing players to build trust.
2 priority is incomming recruits.
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I think I’d flip those…plenty of time to connect with existing players.
go in, give them a rah rah speech…they are all taking finals and heading home this week anyway.
Put together the last 5 or so guys in this class and keep what we have in place.
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ummm...hope so
hell I hope they watch this and just decide they’re good with KU again.
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What has you daughter told you about Kansas?
she told him about the tradition, chants, and passion at KU.
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Lew
eliminates the “g” in the word “length.” Maybe it’s a Northeast thing. Labba?
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what about...
Idea®
that kills me
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that should have read idear
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and that’s different from the Northeast? : )
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It is.
Two schools of thought. Mid-Atlantic (i.e. DC-NYC) and New England (anything above NYC)
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but who was it?
The name I thought he said doesn’t match the coaches at UB.
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 14, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure.
I just heard TE coach, but I didn’t catch the name.
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could be someone from elsewhere...
there was a lot of talk about him leaning toward some former coaching contacts he’s made over the years. Hard to convince ol’ buddies to go to Buffalo with you, but if you call them and say join me at Kansas they might listen.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
well our special teams...
needed a change but our TE coach had been pretty successful. Can’t keep em all though.
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J. Brady
Why is this the right time for TG?
Lew – evaluated the needs of the program. If you walk though his background you’ll see that he is a competitor, udnerstood Big XII, and played in the Big XII, the staff he was bringingt (Lew was estatic with that) no secret that TExas is importaan and the fact that Turner can recruit Texas kids to Buffalo he can recruit them to Kansas. Told the Gill family its a tad warmer in Kasnas. Described as a players coach. At the end of the day, Turner WANTED to be at Kansas. That was improtant to Lew that he got someone who wanted to be here for a long period of time. Gill was adamanet about spending a long period of time….
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maybe he learned his lesson...
after the hypocrisy of his last go around.
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That's not a basketball player
I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
he's used to being the only
3 black dudes in Kansas
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by benfunke on Dec 14, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Told his wife this would be his last stop
and that he wanted to be here for 15-20 years…
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Eh.
What else is he supposed to say, right? I mean, I’m glad he didn’t say the opposite, but rarely do people go to a job expecting to leave.
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So...
You fellas excited?
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 14, 2009 11:47 AM CST reply actions
Sure am...
I’m trying to keep it in perspective but it’s just nice to turn the page.
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I'm honestly pumped for you
This guy was my favorite candidate for the job a long while ago and I’m really curious to see how he does. I hope he makes KU into a consistent 8-9 win team.
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by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 14, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
Aaron Stamm
is the special teams coord AND TE coach at Buffalo that will be coming. So maybe he’s only bringing the one guy. Coached with Gill at Nebraska as well.
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thanks!
When I looked at the staff list, Joe Dooley was TE coach (former QB at NU and UNC).
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 14, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
so that was interesting
Coach Gill did really well there.
1. I really liked the things he said non-football. Players have to want to graduate, become men, learning life skills outside of football, those things.
2. I like turnovers. As I wrote upthread, UB caused 38 fumbles and recovered 22 of them, which are LARGE numbers.
3. I like the combination of power football (1/2 back sets) and the spread. I can’t wait to see a real triple threat option.
4. I like the 4-3 over the 4-2-5 we played alot this season. While having an extra DB is a good thing against teams like TTU, that extra linebacker (especially if he’s fast) is going to help put extra pressure on quarterbacks and make teams like Nebraska beat us through the air.
5. Priorities. Eight years ago, I doubt anyone would have thought the words “national championship” would be said at Mangino’s press conference. Now, it’s win the North, win the league and possibly play for the MNC.
6. Recruiting. I have a hard time believing that any player who sits in his living room with his parents and Coach Gill would not give playing for Kansas a long, hard thinking-over.
I think that’s it for now.
good thoughts
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Not sure how much to read into this.
Found this article on our new DC Carl Torbush:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2239806
“Texas A&M defensive coordinator Carl Torbush was fired on Monday, the first casualty from the Aggies’ disappointing 5-6 season, its second losing record in three seasons under head coach Dennis Franchione.
Franchione announced the firing in an e-mail Monday afternoon.
Texas A&M’s defense was ranked 108th out of 117 Division I-A schools and its pass defense was the worst in the nation. The Aggies allowed a whopping 443.82 yards per game and gave up 31.2 points a contest. "
lol in an e-mail?
Didn’t A&M have some big blowup a few years ago regarding e-mail nonsense?
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by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 14, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Franchione was running a subscription blog
Making some moolah on the side by providing “insider” info to subscribers.
Who's next?
holy shit!!
that’s a bit of a pay bump…hope he earns that. Honestly feel like that may be a bit high. Better get the gridiron club sold Lew!!
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I put the link
in a fanshot as well. I too was surprised at the dollar figure.
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I suppose it's hard to go after another candidate with a reported 2.7-2.8M deal...
and then come to the other guy and say…well you aren’t even worth half that.
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Yeah, that was the flip side of Mangino's extension
Obviously, you want to be able to attract a top-flight coach if you choose to go that way, but if you don’t (not saying Gill’s not a top-flight coach, just that he doesn’t have the HC pedigree of, say, a Fulmer or Tuberville), you’re kinda bound to pay him at least close to what you were paying the previous dude.
I’d imagine that if Gill takes us to a BCS game in his first 5 years, his extension will be something closer to $3.5 per…maybe more.
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regardless...
I look at this as an ok move because it continues to paint the picture that Kansas is serious about it’s football program.
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hey it was a good catch...and worth some discussion...
I’ve been trying to bump more things lately because we’ve had a lot of good contributions out there.
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I'm very disappointed in this.
That’s way too much money to pay for potential.
I figured it would be something like $1 million with $500K bonus for Big 12 North, $500K bonus for Big 12 Title, $500K bonus for BCS bowl, etc.
Who's next?
it puts him about #5 in the Big 12 if I'm not mistaken...
I get what you are saying, but we do need to continue to show a serious commitment to football and this does do that.
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I understand the perception we need to give
But we didn’t have to go THAT high to give that perception. Most of our big donors are businessmen and women. They understand the value of a good deal.
A guy who made $265K in 2009 now makes $2 million?
Just not logical.
Who's next?
I don't disagree...
it seems hard to justify.
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As I said above
I think it is more a matter of Lew painting himself into a corner with Mangino’s last contract. I’m not sure he had a choice but to go higher than he would normally pay a coach with Gill’s experience.
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Well I'm starting to wonder.....
if some of that is hazard pay.
Perhaps behind the scenes the environment within the KU football program is toxic and he’s paying Gill extra to clean up some shit (beyond the normal duties of a head football coach).
Just grasping at straws here………
From out of the East rose the Son. Turner Gill was his name. And he went Westward. And he proclaimed: "It's a Great day to be a Jayhawk!"
And it was.
perception
Big football programs pay big salaries to big football coaches.
Lew has to keep that perception. And im sure there are a lot of intangibles that we wont ever know about inside of that contract.
Technically...
the contract should be made public, since KU is a public entity, so we should have a pretty good idea as to what the contract itself says once they finalize it and release it. Now, as to what has been verbally put forward but not in writing, you’re quite correct in saying that we may never know…
Operation 40-0 is a go. Proceed to target.
transcript?
anyone find a transcript of the presser yet?
I'm jealous yous guys got to watch
I was off to a job interview. Oh well. Is there anyway I can watch it, recorded version or something?
Here
http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=kan
From out of the East rose the Son. Turner Gill was his name. And he went Westward. And he proclaimed: "It's a Great day to be a Jayhawk!"
And it was.
Click on free events and scroll down
There are some player interviews up know too
From out of the East rose the Son. Turner Gill was his name. And he went Westward. And he proclaimed: "It's a Great day to be a Jayhawk!"
And it was.
I like it!!!
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Bachman-Turner Overdrive?
If we could hire an assistant with the last name bachman, or get a future AD with that name is Lew hangs it up in 5 years or whatever, that would be sweet.
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