Get to Know a Coaching Candidate: Tommy Tuberville
Well looks like the hat just got a bit heavier as another big one just threw his name in. Tommy Tuberville was interviewed by the KC Star in an article this morning expressing his interest in the Kansas Jayhawk coaching position. Tuberville discussed the attractiveness of the opening, his qualifications and how he's been staying fresh in his year away from the game.
No doubt Tuberville is the type of hire that lends instant credibility to the job. Is he however the right man for the job? Another wrench in the process I'd say. A process that is beginning to enter it's second week and hopefully one that will come to a close in the near future.
Let's get to know a little more about Tommy Tuberville though, shall we.
Tommy Tuberville was born in 1954 in the natural state, Arkansas. That makes him 55 for those scoring at home and likely the oldest candidate we've seen on the radar to date. Tuberville has strong ties to the SEC but has recently found himself out of work and in the analyst chair for the 2009 season.In terms of his playing days and collegiate career, Tuberville started out at Southern Arkansas as a safety where he would letter with the team. From their he began his coaching career directly out of college as a high school assistant at Hermitage (Ark.) High School. Tuberville would spend two years as an assistant and two as a head coach with Hermitage. After three straight four-win seasons, Tuberville guided HHS to a 7-3 mark in 1979 before moving on to Arkansas State.
At Arkansas State Tuberville coached various segments of the Indians' defense over five seasons. Tuberville coached defensive backs, nose guards and linebackers. During his final year at ASU, the Indians advanced to the second round of the NCAA Division I-AA playoffs.
At the start of the 1986 season Tuberville would take a positions assistant spot with the Miami Hurricanes.
Tuberville served as a member of the University of Miami staff for eight seasons from 1986-93, taking over as defensive coordinator in 1993.
While serving on the staffs of Jimmy Johnson and Dennis Erickson at Miami, Tuberville was a defensive coach on teams which won three national championships, posted an 87-9 record and played in nine consecutive New Year's Day bowls. Not bad company to keep and a pretty impressive run of success.
As defensive coordinator for the Hurricanes in 1993, Tuberville directed a Miami defense which was ranked No. 3 nationally in scoring defense (12.6 ppg) and No. 5 nationally in pass defense (91.15 ypg). We like defense around here, or at least we'd like a defense around here, right?
During the 1994 season Tuberville would spend a year somewhat between jobs if you will, with the Texas A&M Aggies as their defensive coordinator. In 1994, he helped lead the Aggies to a 10-0-1 record and No. 8 final ranking by the Associated Press. Under his direction, the Aggie defense finished fourth nationally in scoring defense (13.1 ppg), fifth in total defense (265.5 ypg) and sixth in rushing defense (92.4 ypg). Again, not a bad defense and a pretty successful stint.
From A&M Tuberville would take his first head coaching position with the Ole Miss Rebels a year later.
While at Ole Miss from 1995-98, Tuberville posted a 25-20 record. Inheriting a Rebel program plagued by NCAA sanctions and probation, he guided Ole Miss to a winning record in his first season in 1995, with just 61 players on scholarship. He did not have a full compliment of scholarship players to work with in any of his four years at Ole Miss.
By the time he had three recruiting classes under his belt, Tuberville led Ole Miss to an 8-4 mark and a victory in the inaugural Motor City Bowl in 1997. His efforts earned him Associated Press SEC Coach of the Year Honors.
In 1998 Tuberville would take the head position with another SEC school in Auburn. During his tenure at Auburn, Tuberville guided the Tigers to the top of the SEC standings, leading the Tigers to an SEC Championship and the Western Division title in 2004. Under his direction, the Tigers made eight consecutive bowl appearances including five New Year's Day bowl berths.
The Auburn Tigers were a perfect 13-0 in 2004 including the SEC title and a win over Virginia Tech in the Sugar Bowl. Tuberville received Coach of the Year awards from the Associated Press, the American Football Coaches Association, the National Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association and the Walter Camp Football Foundation.
Overall in his time at Auburn Tuberville would post an 85-40 overall record and a 52-30 SEC Record. For his career Tuberville has won 110 games to just 60 losses.
Tommy Tuberville is probably in a mold all his own as far as the Kansas coaching search goes. He'd fit in the homerun hire category without a doubt. Tuberville would provide instant credibility to the program and bring with him a proven track record of success.
The biggest downside to Tuberville might be his age as he is 55 and a good 10 years older than some of the names that are floating around as favorites. However let's take a quick look to the west and see that 70+ year old man still roaming the sidelines with the Wildcats. Snyder has been able to do it, and when he started in Manhattan things were in worse shape and he had a far less glowing record of success. Not too mention this might be viewed by Tuberville as a final stop. If he comes to Kansas and is able to produce a 10 year run of success, this program will be in great shape when he's gone.
Is Tuberville promised success at Kansas? No he isn't, but this would be one hell of a hire and I hope Lew, as I suspect, has spoken to Coach Tuberville and I sincerely hope this is option 1b at the very least.
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don't know how he's not 1a.
I get the mystique or whatever you want to call it around Harbaugh, but Tuberville is a FAR better candidate in every single way. A defensive minded head coach who has coached both a run-heavy offense and a spread, who admittedly spent the last year studying the game, Tuberville seems to have it all. And he likely won’t be looking for a better gig in 4 years if the program has been successful. Regardless of Harbaugh’s loyalties to Michigan, there is no way we could say that about him. Harbaugh will leave, eventually, and it will be far sooner than Tuberville would retire.
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 11, 2009 9:28 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I agree with ya...
just seems if the rumors are true and Lew has offered Harbaugh with a timeline then it appears he’s made that choice already.
I’m with you though…if it’s me…Tubberville’s the guy and would have been three days ago…he’d already be here recruiting too.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
yes
if it’s me…Tubberville’s the guy and would have been three days ago…he’d already be here recruiting too.
Exactly. Which is why none of what’s happened (or hasn’t happened) makes a lick of sense. If Tuberville is interested, he’s clearly a better choice than any of the other candidates, has the “wow” factor, would strike fear into the hearts of 9 of the 11 other teams in the Big XII and could set us up for an unprecedented decade of success.
How in God’s name is Harbaugh ranked above Tuberville???
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 11, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
Asking myself the same question
But I’m biased. I haven’t been on the Harbaugh bandwagon at all.
Who's next?
harbaugh is lew's guy...
and has been from the beginning. I’m pretty sure he gave Tuberville a look and that he’s in the mix to an extent, but if Lew can get harbaugh, I’d bet he’s our guy.
by hiphopopotamus on Dec 11, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
so any word on when the offer might expire?
Or are they negotiating about money?
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 11, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
maybe that's why Tuberville was so anxious to get an interview in the Star
make it public that Lew is trying to select a lesser candidate over him (Tuberville).
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When did Auburn run a successful spread offense?
who has coached both a run-heavy offense and a spread
I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
I didn't say it was successful ;)
But he was in the process of implementing it.
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 11, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
until he ran off the coordinator
I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
Devener -
have you been neglecting the wife and kid this past week? You’re really putting in some OT here at RCT.
Me likey Skip Holtz
wife, kid, work, anything else…all neglected since this whole Manginogate/coaching search began.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
We need to send Denver's wife a gift basket
for being so patient and supportive. Maybe now that finals are about over RC will come back and lighten the load.
Me likey Skip Holtz
eh...I'm lovin every second of it.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
You seem really interested in Denver's wife, Labba...
What’s that all about? ; )http://www.rockchalktalk.com/2009/12/11/1196003/get-to-know-a-coaching-candidate#
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by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Dec 11, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
Just one married man to another
my wife looks at me funny already for the time I spend here, which is significantly less than Denver. That’s all. It takes a pretty good woman to deal with that…
Me likey Skip Holtz
mine too
Checking this AM to see if anything had happened overnight, she looks at my computer en route for coffee.
"Are you talking to your online friends again?"
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 11, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
she does know we're all Jayhawks doesn't she??
I mean if I was online posting to some random people that’s weird, but message board fodder with fellow Jayhawk fans…perfectly acceptable : )
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
she's a Tarheel
So some of it was mocking. The rest of was just giving me a hard time about “friends” I’ve never met.
At one point I told her that Oread Boom Kings was a gay sex site, so I might have brought it on myself.
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 11, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
you married a Tar Heel?
you’re a bigger man than I
http://twinkietalk.com
http://thecollegehockeyblog.com
pretty sure Labba is....
somehow connected to a tarheel as well.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
To many of them.
Married a Tarheel as well. I also have blood relatives who are slaver Tarheels as well. I’ll save my rantings for another day but I have some good stuff.
Me likey Skip Holtz
I'm sure Hiphop loves you spreading the news about his site.
by hunter s. royal on Dec 11, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
No kidding...
let’s keep that between us.
by hiphopopotamus on Dec 11, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Who? I don't know an RC...
I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
I do agree, Denver's putting in some work.
Get to know’s and the b-ball previews and wraps. Good work, too.
I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
I had thought from the get-go
that Tuberville would be a great pick, but had kind of given up on it since I hadn’t heard anything about him. Thanks for the great primer, Denver (as usual). I think between Harbaugh and Tuberville, we’re going to end up with a top-notch coach. I just hope we get resolution soon, as does Denver’s family and job, I would imagine.
Operation 40-0 is a go. Proceed to target.
What am I missing on Tuberville?
I was never that high on him at Auburn and I’m not high on him now. I realize he had success there and is a “name”, but I’m obviously missing something.
I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
his success with the spread offense?
/mocking myself
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 11, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
I'm definitely missing that.
And I liked his power running attack before, never did quite understand why they tried the spread.
I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
110-60 overall record while coaching in the SEC…thats nothin to sneeze at.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
True, so Auburn averaged 6-3 in SEC play during his time.
Is that about right?
I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
Is that not enough for you???
RODD TEESING, my arch-nemesis! Give us back our TODD, you rapscallion!
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Dec 11, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
No, it is successful.
I guess I’d prefer a younger guy that is making a jump between levels.
I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
Definitely appreciating the effort/research
though I’m not nearly as excited as the rest of you all seem to be, tho he definitely does make the top five. Mostly, I am excited about how strong 5 options are for our coach search.
Unfortunately, I don’t have a particularly logical basis for the lack of excitement towards Coach T as #1. I do like that he would be that much more inclined to shore up the D, and probably would add the qualifier that he bring in Nolan as OC/AssistHCinwaiting.
It is also encouraging that he has spent the last year studying the game, and reworking his coaching game, tho that makes it a bit of an unknown. What it does tell me tho, is that even he realized that the game had passed him by a bit.
Past success, even undefeated seasons, don’t ensure future success, bc things continue to change. Future success is a function of continuing to grow, and the nature of getting old is stopping growing. That doesn’t mean that it is inevitable, it just means that you have to combat nature.
I think Coach T could be successful if hired. I’m just not sure a retread (essentially how I hear him describing himself and not meant nearly as derogatorily as it could be taken) is necessarily better than an up and coming (new, younger) coach.
Nolan Cromwell as HC in waiting?
The dude turns 56 next month. How long can he “wait” to be a head coach?
Who's next?
Tommy Tuberville
How can you introduce us to a coaching candidate if you can’t even get his damn name right?
welcome to the site by the way...
I notice you’re an Illinois native…what part?
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
With Ole Miss fans, there's a real love/hate relationship with Tubs.
As you correctly noted, we were his first head coaching gig, hiring him after being placed under severe NCAA sanctions for ’crootin violations. Yet, despite being shackled by probation and scholarship limitations, Tuberville was still able to recruit well and keep our team competitive.
That’s the “love” part.
The “hate” part of this dual relationship comes with the way Tubs left. Naturally, we fans loved the guy. Our university administration, in typical fashion, made a series of poor decisions with regards to Tuberville’s needs as a coach. They would not amplify his recruiting budget, improve facilities, etc. Well, whatever we wouldn’t give him, Auburn promised to give him. They hired him right from under our nose. The real bitterness, however, comes with how Tuberville left. After the last game of the season, when Tuberville to Auburn rumors surfaced, he announced in a press conference that he wouldn’t leave Oxford unless he was carried away “in a pine box”—a pine box, of course, being Southern slang for a cheap casket. Two days later, he was moving into his office in Auburn.
Our feelings were hurt, true, but most of us have gotten over it… I hope.
Make no mistake though, if Kansas were to somehow land Tommy Tuberville (I bet he’s holding out for the TAMU job in a season or two, but that’s just me), you’ll soon be competing for Big XII North titles again.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 11, 2009 12:26 PM CST reply actions
While I would love to see it....
Based on the KC article Lew has not given Tommy the time of day and I am wondering why? Is he looking to pay much less this upcoming year because he already blew a lot of the Gridiron budget in having to pay off Mark? If they have not spoken yet then I would think Tommy is not a serious candidate in Lew’s mind. This is not good.
I'm of the thinking that he's being very subtle.
If he has been in contact but is working out negotiations or that he knows Lew wants to play it close he’s probably not going to mention that he’s in direct talks with Perkins.
Me likey Skip Holtz
Damnit, Denver
I was all geeked for Harbaugh, and now I kind of want Tuberville.
http://twinkietalk.com
http://thecollegehockeyblog.com
well don't get too worked up...
my guess is Tuberville is a longshot…Harbaugh on the other hand…
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
I have to jump in...
I have been following this entire process much like Denverjhawk. I have wanted a competitive football team to compliment our basketball program for some time. I did not like the Mangino hire when it went down, wanted him gone before the Orange Bowl, had to keep my mouth shut for two years, and now am loving the search for the next football coach. My thought has always been we need the “Bill Self” of football running the program.
So, I come up with this theory that Perkins is after a guy not on the radar. And he has to hit a home run. Which leads me to believe early in the week that it is going to be Tommy Tuberville. He is charismatic, will bring a high profile and resume to the job, can recruit the South (not just Texas), will certainly help in fundraising/season ticket sales/enthusiasm, etc. And looking at his final salary at Auburn, we are already in the ballpark with Mangino’s last contract.
And then you sell KU to him. You would coach in arguably the second best BCS football conference in the country (nod to the SEC). And it would be in the weaker division. You would coach against CO, ISU, MU, KSU, and NU every year. You would have a great chance every year to compete for the north title and play in the Big 12 championship. You could come in here, and if you were to average 9 wins over 6 years, you would quickly become the all time winning coach in KU history. Stay 10 years and they build a statue of you outside Memorial Stadium.
So, I read the Kansas City Star last night after my third or fourth presentation to Jayhawk brethren as to why I thought KU would be announcing Tommy Tuberville as the next coach. I was dismayed and disheartened to think KU hasn’t even called the guy. I am sitting here in disbelief and shouting “Are you kidding me?” Look at this guy’s resume. And then I did remember his knee-jerk reaction to installing the spread offense. So, I go to bed last night not knowing what to think.
However, a thought struck me this morning as I am reflecting upon all of this. Guess what hits me? Perkins has conducted his search, in the shrouds of cloak and dagger, and no one knows what is going on. We all know this. But this has created a news cycle every day. First Turner Gill, next Houston Nutt, then Brewster. And what happens on Thursday night? He gets the freaking former head coach of AUBURN going public and stating the KU job is very attractive and he wants to be considered for it! This is all in one week. Brilliant!
I am still sitting in the position that Perkins has to hit a home run. But rather than reacting emotionally and thinking this through analytically, there is no way he won’t do so. The search and discussion going on makes the KU job sound as if it is a top 20 job, maybe even top 10. And we finished 5-7, losing the last 7 in a row.
If I am waffling a bit, it might be back to Harbaugh. However, if he does go the Tuberville direction, he is in control getting Tuberville to come to him versus us pursuing him. Looks great and might cost less money that way. And yet if he does go the route of Gill, he establishes even more credibility for a “lesser” candidate as we chose this guy over all these other guys.
As always, I am tuned into “As the Mangino Turns”.
by K-Foz on Dec 11, 2009 2:27 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
K-Foz...a big welcome to the site...
way to weigh in and you should do so more often, great thoughts.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
K-Foz -
Cut and past that into a FanPost. I’m sure other RCT’rs would love to have a discussion thread on your thoughts. Welcome.
Me likey Skip Holtz
Also -
I’d love to know about your Mangino theories? What didn’t you like when he was hired and up through the Orange Bowl? He was on the hot seat coming in to ’07 no question. 2006 was a disappointing year with all the close losses and especially to aTm and OSU.
Me likey Skip Holtz
Theories
Thanks everyone for the welcome. I am heading out the door shortly, but I would love to expand on all of this (as if my novella wasn’t enough; I don’t want to put anyone to sleep). Ironically, I just found this site a few days back when seeking information on the coaching position. So I will be here for a long while as it seems there is a lot in common. And by all means, if anyone wants to cut and paste I would be thrilled.
when you expand...throw it in a fanpost...perfect spot for it...
if you need a quick tutorial…email me.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
it's a slow turn
Sorry, had to get one last Mangino joke in before we have a new coach.
I agree with almost everything you say, K-Foz (oh, and welcome). I, however, didn’t have the foresight with Mangino. But after the Colorado or K-State game, I began to have questions (there’s a great back-and-forth about this here: An Article Calling For The Firing Of Mark Mangino).
We have been all in the dark. Things are starting to come out, though, and it certainly does look like Harbaugh. What I find the most interesting is Harbaugh’s never been asked about the KU job. He was asked about the Notre Dame job, and he said he wasn’t going to Notre Dame. But nobody’s bothered to ask him about KU. If it’s not Harbaugh, I’ll be somewhat surprised. And if it’s Tuberville, I’ll be ecstatic.
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 11, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
WANT.
WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT.

RODD TEESING, my arch-nemesis! Give us back our TODD, you rapscallion!
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Dec 11, 2009 2:34 PM CST reply actions
ah...KG...
you’ve been quiet lately. I thought this guy might appeal to you.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Finals, my man. They really cut down on my blogging time. Jerks.
I haven’t put together a “Top 5” list of candidates or anything because I just have no idea how any of these guys will do in our environment. But I gotta say that Tuberville would be my definite favorite.
You don’t go 13-0 in the SEC by being lucky. You don’t average a 6-3 mark in that conference by coincidence. The only bad thing I’ve heard about the guy so far is that people didn’t like how he handled the transition from Ole Miss to Auburn. KU fans have definitely “been there, done that” with old Roy. But it’s always a difficult thing to handle- fans and alumni have a passionate relationship with their teams, and any time you leave them, there’s going to be hard feelings.
We’ve talked before on here about how even the super power programs are taking a gamble when they hire a new coach- it can end up with them having some really terrible streaks. So if we’re going to gamble with a significant amount of money (and really, probably the fate of the football program hanging in the balance- we either make a push now, or give up and settle for hoops entirely), why not make the safest gamble we possibly can? To me, that has to be Tuberville.
RODD TEESING, my arch-nemesis! Give us back our TODD, you rapscallion!
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Dec 11, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
Screw it, I'm back to wanting Harbaugh again
is he going to leave for the NFL or Michigan after 5 seasons? Maybe. But will our football program be in better shape after those 5 years? I think there’s little question that it will be.
http://twinkietalk.com
http://thecollegehockeyblog.com
Still think he's more of a gamble than Tuberville
Harbaugh’s had one winning season at the D-1 level. Tuberville averages a 6-3 mark over an extended period in the most competitive conference in the country. If everything else is equal, this is a no-brainer to me.
RODD TEESING, my arch-nemesis! Give us back our TODD, you rapscallion!
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Dec 11, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with you
but it doesn’t seem like there’s really any chance of us getting Tuberville.
Also, don’t you think Harbaugh has more upside? I think we know what we’d be getting from Tuberville, and Harbaugh could just keep getting better and better
http://twinkietalk.com
http://thecollegehockeyblog.com
Better than 13-0 in the SEC? Really?
RODD TEESING, my arch-nemesis! Give us back our TODD, you rapscallion!
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Dec 11, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
he only did it one year, correct?
I’ll admit I’m not a huge CFB guy
http://twinkietalk.com
http://thecollegehockeyblog.com
If he can average 6 conference wins a year for us like he did at Auburn, we’d be looking at consistent 9 and 10 win seasons. Isn’t that what we’re looking for? Realistically, how can Harbaugh do better than that?
RODD TEESING, my arch-nemesis! Give us back our TODD, you rapscallion!
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Dec 11, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
The difference is just in deciding...
do you want a guy who is older, has done it and might be able to do it again.
or do you want a younger guy that hasn’t done it, but has shown some fire/hunger and might have the ceiling to do it.
Either way nothing is promised. Both are big time hires, just in different ways. If Tuberville can’t do it he’s looked at as being to old, out of touch and past his time. If he does, Lew hired a proven guy and he showed he still has it.
If Harbaugh does it, he’s young, energetic and one of the great young coaches in the game. If he doesn’t he becomes overrated, didn’t have enough experience and too risky a hire.
You’re taking a chance either way, not everybody is going to be happy…you just have to pick a route and go with it. Based on the other candidates, I’d say Lew is more interested in someone with something to prove still.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Here's the thing though...
Isn’t there only a 10 year difference in age between the two? Maybe it’s just a question of perception.
RODD TEESING, my arch-nemesis! Give us back our TODD, you rapscallion!
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Dec 11, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
yep...
Tuberville 55, Harbaugh 45…perception is that the 45 year old has more to give. At the same time Tuberville looks like a guy that could still coach another 20 years like Bill Snyder.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
I'd have NO problem with Tuberville...
but for a good portion of that run, the SEC wasn’t necessarily the best league in the country.
if nothing else, just look at his perfect season going unrewarded. Wouldn’t even come close to happening these days.
But really, a lot of his winning came during the Zook era in FL, when Bama was just plain down among a few coaches, LSU was bouncing a bit, etc…
Not taking anything away from his accomplishments, but don’t look at it as he consistently averaged 6 wins in this SEC
by hiphopopotamus on Dec 11, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
This matches my thoughts exactly, just didn't get it out as clearly as you did.
Mine sounds more like dumb greed.
I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
Didn't I tell you all from the beginning we should get Tuberville?
Didn’t I mention him before Mangino was threatened with being fired? Didn’t you all make fun of me for suggesting him saying he would have no interest and we’d have no shot at him? Etc etc etc?
Yeah thats right what you all got to say now? Nothing.
Go back to my original Should Mangino be fired article
its all there, especially the Tuberville part.
that thread
might have been my first posts. If I remember correctly, Rivet and I got into it a little bit on that thread.
by DCJayhawk0208 on Dec 11, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions

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