An Article Calling for the Firing of Mark Mangino

Sorry if I gave that impression. I just think it’s such an incredibly bad idea, so that’s my feedback on it.

I always wonder about “talent,” too- how much of our “improvement” in talent is due to these ranking services giving MM more credit after his success in 2007? Those star ratings get messed with all the time based upon what teams are after them.

McDougald, Tharp, and Opurum seem like the real deal, but we still haven’t found anyone with potential in the secondary, or really on the defensive line. By Kansas standards, the young talent we have right now is probably pretty great. But for a big-name coach, I doubt it’s anything spectacular.

but whether Kansas can. What would the buyout be? and with the Gridiron club likely already hurting with the uncertainty surrounding things at the moment, is Lew Perkins willing to take another huge monetary gamble.

I’m not sure what side of the debate I fall on with this thing, but truthfully I’m not even sure it’s feasible if we wanted to. College coaching salaries kind of have universities by the balls right now. You have to back up the brinks truck if you want to keep em, then you can’t afford to get rid of em. That’s the issue Colorado is facing right now, and their guy never even won anything.

I love the passion from both of you as it relates to KU football.

That was one thing that stood out to me being back this weekend as well. Our fanbase still has a ways to go but being in that game for the better part of 4 quarters gave a little more fire to the fanbase. I got the feeling that even the old folks surrounding me were starting to realize the impact the fans have on a team and a program.

I honestly remember sitting down at the beginning of the game and thinking I don’t want to lose by a lot and I don’t want to win by a lot. I want to win in a great game so these fans stand in these seats for four quarters and show this team and these seniors some support.

There are certainly frustrations and I think I’m done with silver linings but it felt good to see our fanbase grow a little more this past weekend.

I think he was referring to the style of runs we use Toben for which I tend to agree with. It seems like every option and outside run Toben loses two yards and every smash up the middle he gains 5-6 with a chance for more because he is so tough to bring down with a full head of steam going downhill. The brutal coaching aspect is we continue to run the options outside, which according to a friend of mine who hates it so much as starting keeping track since the Colorado game, is averaging literally 0.4 ypc.

2010 is a make or break year for Mangino. While you bring up he is breaking in a new quarterback, the fact is he had his old qb/offense from the past two years and failed miserably this season. If he can’t get it done with the old reliables from the past (Reesing, Sharp, Meier, Briscoe, Stucky, Thornton, Harris, etc), I mean kids that have been here and contributed since they were all freshman/sophomores then he has to get it done with the new kids he has recruited, plain and simple. Couple this with an easier big 12 slate, I would see why a season like this one next year would put him on a very hot seat.

I think the big issue isn’t talent its putting it all together. I mean our offense obviously has talent and showed that the past two years. Its there. On paper, our D should be better and has improved throughout the year IMO. We don’t need someone to come in and recruit better, I feel like our coaches have done a heck of a job recruiting and starting to bring some good talent in. Its just we aren’t necessarily seeing it on the field.

Maybe it is too early for some of these higher level recruits to really be making an impact, which is why I said we need more time.

I think the overall issue is trying to figure out where it went wrong this year. I think our players could have played better and our coaches could have coached and schemed better. I think blame should be placed everywhere and not just on one. But it might take us way too long to dissect everything. Unfortunately what the article points out is that often blame (fairly or unfairly) gets placed at the top.

I was simply using NU as an example. When the wins come not because the team is better but because the competition is worse, you have to worry. And I’m posing just that scenario, using what happened in Lincoln as a comparison. Had they fired Solich the year before, they would have been in better shape to land a better coach. Since they waited, it was a much worse PR situation.

I’d argue that it’s unfair to compare KU to Snyder’s KSU program (1st go). Remember, Snyder was able to recruit prop 48 players, fly them on private jets to Manhattan, and sign them up and play them. These were good football players…..but horrible student athletes.

Times have changed. No prop 48. No private jets. Academic standards. It’s a world of difference. Mangino tried to play that game early on (Monroe Weekly) and look where it got us.

they are doing one on one’s with some current players as well.