Big changes a comin'?
After watching today's game and listening to HCMM's postgame comments, it seems that there could be big changes on the way for our Hawks...The offense is flaccid right now and it seems that the main problem is the total inability to run the ball. So, are changes coming for the O-line, and if so, who?
Todd Reesing hasn't looked like himself most of the year save for the Iowa St. game and he seems to be regressing. Besides the fact that I think he's hurt, he holds the ball way too long instead of just getting rid of it. Unless he can't go, I can't see him being replaced, but he does need to get rid of the ball quicker and stop taking so many negative plays.
The defense seems to be coming around some, but is it enough? We had a huge turnover advantage earlier in the game and still couldn't really capitalize because the offense was so inept. With the offense the way it is, the defense needs to be lockdown solid to give us a chance to win, and they were for 3 quarters today but they need to do it for the whole game.
Next up is KSU who has been getting better as the season has gone on, while we seem to be getting worse. Can we win in Manhattan? Sure, but if we play the way we've been playing then we're going to get destroyed.
This team just hasn't come together this year like we would have hoped, whether because of injuries or inexperience or coaching. The schedule hasn't helped, and while we could argue that we are only one game worse than we thought we might be at the start of the year, the truth is that this team seems to be miles away from winning a game.
I won't pretend to have the answers, other than taking better care of the ball and improving the running game, what can we do? And what are our goals now? I think the North is all but out for us with the problems we've got, so are we just hoping to squeak out one more win and get to a bowl? Would one win even be enough?
At this point, I think we just hope to beat our rivals and just be happy with a 3-year bowl streak, to send Meier and Reesing out on a high note.
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Haven't had a chance to listen to Mangino's comments....
so I’ll have to do that and comment tomorrow. Any quick summary?
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Listened to the comments...
sounds pretty obvious the o-line will see changes. We saw Wolfe come in for Spikes when Pick came in and I wouldn’t be surprised if that sticks. Also I’d look for Marrongelli to come in as well as he pushed for time early in the year.
I think you are correct that the chances of Todd being removed as the starter are very very slim. Other changes on offense I’m not sure will be seen on the field but Coach does seem like he might be sending a message to both the Offensive and Special Teams coaching staffs with his statements. It’s a pretty drastic decline that this group has taken and it couldn’t have come at a worse time. Coach Mangino has to know that the offense he fielded last year could be 8-0 right now.
K-State lost last night to OU but they fought the entire game, executed a gameplan and made a bit of a comeback in Norman. They definitely had Sooner fans worried which I don’t think we ever did. That game is going to take a big 180 from our team this week if we want to come out of Manhattan with a win and if we don’t it’s bad news. If we do I’d say 8-4 is still on the table but you are probably right that 7-5 beating our rivals and a 3rd straight bowl might have to be considered a good consolation prize if we can even pull that off.
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Kansas has a football team?
I thought that was a circus.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
let's not lose sight
of the fact that mangino has made us relevant for the first time in a long time…hopefully this is just a bump in the road…recruiting has steadily improved over the years…this year’s schedule was very unfavorable and everyone knew that going in…the CU loss and the unexpected play of KSU is really what has everyone worried, IMO. It’s going to suck if we lose to KSU, but hopefully things are still pointed in the right direction in the long run.
"He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it felt...he lives vicariously...through himself- He is the most interesting man in the world"
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Nov 1, 2009 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
I'm focused on a bowl
Get back on track at K-State, then top either Mizzou or Nebraska. I’ll also happily accept a win at Texas.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Nov 1, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
If we can get a win in Manhattan...
and then beat either Mizzou, Nebraska or both…we’ll be 7-5 or 8-4 and go to a bowl…keep the season to season momentum going is what is most important right now.
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A few thoughts:
OC Ed Dubya: This guy was brought in because he was supposed to be a run game expert, after at Illinois his teams boasted potent running attacks. Now? We absolutely cannot run the ball. And I am getting really tired of watching us run an option every other play that loses two yards. It doesn’t work because Todd is not a threat to run it. He runs a few yards laterally looking for a pitch the whole time. A lack of a running game has crippled our offense. Todd was so good the last two years because our running backs were averaging a healthy 4.+ yards a carry.
Defense: Once again our D kept us in it early when the offense sucked. Its good to see progress but our D is only going to hold for so long. The way our D played that first half, if our offense manages TWO drives for a score we are in control of the game.
Future: We have a lot of young players on our team that could benefit from PT this year. In 2006 we let a lot of young guys get beat up on defense and offense and then the next year they played out of their minds on the way to an Orange Bowl win. IF (and God please don’t let this happen) IF we lose to the putty cats in ManHappenin, is it time to thank some veterans for their hard work and let young guys start getting their jerseys dirty? Not so much pulling redshirts this late, but guys who are RS Frosh, Soph, True Frosh that have seen PT, etc.
Briscoe Kid: Can he go pro now? He is seeing less balls, dropping a few of the ones he is seeing this year, etc. Does he come back to improve his stock with a young qb and a more run oriented offense.
Meier: Have teams finally learned how to stop him? Our criss cross routes that freed him and Briscoe seem to have disappeared.
In the end, our play calling and offense hasn’t changed since 2007, except that we run the ball less and run unsuccessfully. I’m not saying change everything and implement a wildcat formation, but eventually you need to spice things up. Yesterday we also could have used a Meier pass or two a la the Insight Bowl and etc, a reverse to Briscoe, an I formation like we used to use with Toben and Jake or Toben and Rell “From Hell” Lewis, a few things when tipped pass, option, pass wasn’t working every three downs. We looked so potent on O against MU and Minnesota to close the year (teams that both had poor defenses) that we decided not to change a thing except add a pistol formation that we haven’t used since the non-con.
couple of responses
Briscoe is still gone, I doubt he will look at this season vs. next and think he has a chance to improve. New QB, young offense all around him…not really a recipe for a huge senior campaign. You never know though.
As far as Meier I think it’s clear that teams just don’t fear his speed downfield. As a result they are content to play off him, give him the 3 yard catches all day long and make the tackle. We just don’t have a speed threat at the moment and it’s allowing defenses to play very soft against us and be very effective. Meier, Briscoe and Wilson were all 4.6-4.7 guys out of HS. McDougald I believe was maybe a little faster but hasn’t shown any sort of breakaway ability in the slot. I just think we lack the athletes and speed necessary to put a defense on it’s heels right now.
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Yes but
Look at that first TD Meier had against Southern Miss. He got a slight step on a corner and Todd lofted him a perfect throw and bam touchdown. While yeah he doesn’t have burning speed, we should at least let him run a few deep routes.
I agree that the lack of a vertical attack is killing us, really haven’t had someone to chuck it deep to since Marcus Henry left. Even without the killer speed though, we still need to take some chances downfield. You’re completely correct in that teams are just sitting 8 yards off the line and waiting for us to run slants, outs, quick hitches, etc. And we still run them every time. Even if they aren’t overly successful, a few deep throws would help us out a lot IMHO.
Couple of disagreements here:
1. We are a better running team this than we were last year.
2. I believe the reason the running game hasn’t been as effective this year is actually because of Reesing. We’re a team that uses the pass to open up the run. Right now, the passing game simply isn’t getting that job done.
And a lot of that has to fall on Todd- he’s indecisive, he’s inaccurate, and he hasn’t shown much leadership at all on the sidelines. When things get tough this year, he always does that thing where he perches his helmet on the top of his head and sulks. I’ve never seen him trying to fire up his teammates like he used to do in the past. And if the rumors about his partying ways are true, then maybe he’s just completely checked out on this season. Hard to get any kind of offensive attack going if your QB doesn’t care.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Nov 1, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Last year it took us a while to get the run game going
But afterwards it was fairly consistent throughout big12 play. This year it started strong, but the last few games it hasn’t been there at all. Look at 2007, McAnderson rushed for well over 1,000 yards and Sharp had something like 700 or so I believe. Throw in Todd’s runs and others and as a team we rushed for over 2,000 yards easily. Looking at the stats this season, the rushing output per game is getting worse, not better. With last year’s rushing improving through the year and this year’s regressing as Big12 play continues, I’d argue the running game is not improved. Just my take.
I think you are probably on target...
Jake came on pretty strong once conference play started last year. This year we were good in the non-con and have regressed since.
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Looking ahead...
Personally, I feel like Kansas Football owes Reesing the chance to play every snap he wants from here on out. Great players come and go, but this guy might be the person most responsible for the development of the program. Without Todd Reesing at QB, do we get the funding necessary for a new practice facility? Do better recruits really start to seriously consider a place that has never been nationally relevant in college football?
But I also understand the argument about getting Pick some real experience, and that if Pick is the guy that gives us the best chance to win now, he should be the one getting the snaps.
Question: What does Mangino “owe” Todd Reesing as far as the rest of this season goes? If we lose next weekend, I think most of us would agree that this season is a lost cause. At that point, do we start building for the future (giving Pick more PT), or do we enjoy the last few games of the great Todd Reesing Era?
I really hope he can get going here and not make this awkward for everyone. But what happens if he can’t?
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Nov 1, 2009 3:18 PM CST reply actions
you play Todd...
provided that’s what he wants to do and you go let him go out on his terms. My $.02.
Although I say we beat K-State so it isn’t a concern
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