Kansas Football Notable Quotables 10.27.09
This week Coach Mangino once again steps in front of the mic to discuss Oklahoma, Texas Tech, parity in the North, slow offensive starts, turnover woes and the youth movement at Kansas.
On the player side of things Todd Reesing, Jake Sharp and Daymond Patterson round out a smaller than normal group for this weeks presser. Also of note, there is no offensive player of the week this week. Perhaps a message is being sent.
Players of the Oklahoma Game
Defense: Jake Laptad
Special Teams: Jacob Branstetter
Scout Team Defensive Player of the Week: Josh Richardson
Scout Team Offensive Player of the Week: Jacob Morse
Head Coach Mark Mangino
Recap of last weekend's game vs. Oklahoma:
"We had mistakes early in the game that set us back and put us ‘behind the eight ball' so to speak, and we just could not recover from them [mistakes]. We played decent on defense or at least much improved. We needed a couple stops in the third quarter and we did not get that, so ultimately, we were not able to overcome a good football team when spotting them 14 points early in the game."
On this week's game vs. Texas Tech:
"This week we travel to Lubbock to play Texas Tech. Texas Tech is 5-3 and as always, they bring a high-powered offense. They are the No. 1 passing team in the country in Division I. They throw the ball well and catch it well. They have used three different quarterbacks this year, and all three have been effective at various times. I am not sure who exactly will play this week, but I don't believe they will change anything drastic in their system, so whoever they play at quarterback will do the same things that have been good for them for a long time. They have a lot of good receivers in Detron Lewis, Alex Tores, Tramain Swindall, along with others who can catch the ball. They have very good ball distribution. If you watch their tape and look at their statistics, they have thrown passes to a lot of people and spread it out very, very well. They run the ball well. That is something that is not thought of when you think of Texas Tech's offense, but they do run the ball well, if you give them the opportunity. Baron Batch is just a very, very good running back. He is strong, powerful and quick, and also has a couple guys behind him who are pretty good as well. They are a team that is known to put up big numbers. They have had some ups and downs this season, but who hasn't in the Big 12? Probably Texas is the only team that has not. We are looking forward to getting down to Lubbock. We need to get back on the winning track and we are looking forward to it."
On Texas Tech's defensive strategy this season:
"One of the things that Tech has done on defense, that as you coach you kind of admire, is they are not real fancy. They play some basic coverages and fronts, but they do an excellent job of teaching fundamental play. Their kids are seldom out of place. Their secondary does a good job of keeping the ball in front of them. They have always played the run relatively well. It is kind of a situation where I think they took command of the game against K-State, which probably was a major factor. Texas A&M came in with a good game plan and did run the ball well, but Tech traditionally plays the run well. They have a philosophy where they keep it pretty simple and let their kids play. They look for execution and don't try to fool you. I think Ruffin McNeil has done a great job there with the defense. His work is often overlooked because their offense is so potent."
On the parity in the Big 12 this season:
"Every season takes on its own character. I think the league is getting better. Some people see this parity as a sign of weakness, but I see it as a sign of strength. I think teams are improving. Good teams are still good, average teams have gotten better. There is not a team in the league that you can just show up and say ‘oh there is a pretty good chance we will win this game if we show up and just don't screw up too badly'. It is really a dog fight every week, which I see as a strength. Some folks may not see it that way, but that is the way I see it."
On KU's slow starts offensively:
"We are doing everything we can to prevent it. We have studied this thing inside and out. We just have to make plays early in the game. There is no reason for making as many mistakes as we have early in the last couple ball games. One of the guys who has made some of the mistakes is one of the most reliable guys on our team, so it is hard to figure out. I have faith in him. I am not going to make any drastic changes in anything that we do. Our offense has proven in that last couple years that they can play well, they can put up numbers and win a lot of games. We have just hit a couple of rough spots is the way I see it. You have to have confidence in your players and I really do. I believe in our kids. I believe that those mistakes are correctable and we will get them corrected. But, it is nothing to panic about. They players understand and the coaches understand that we need to get it changed and just be sharper."
On the importance of turnover margins in a game:
"I don't know if it is the biggest stat, but I think it is important. Usually good football teams at the end of the year have a pretty good turnover margin ratio. That is not always the case. There have been some teams that have been sloppy with the ball and still had big years. But, there is usually a correlation between give-a-ways, take-a-ways and where you end up at the end of the year. You are talking about a dramatic change of field position. It [bad field position] is hard for any defense to overcome and any offense that gets a chance to get a turnover, especially down in the opponent's end of the field, is a chance to get points on the board quickly."
On Jacob Branstetter's career-long kicks this season:
"I have always had confidence in him. I am not going to budge in that I think his range, when there is no wind factor, is around 48-49 yards. But, when you have a 15-mile per hour gust of wind behind you, I will give him another 10 yards, which he proved he could do that. I am not going to say that I was on the sidelines saying ‘well here is three easy points, let's get inside' but he is fairly accurate if he can get the help. There was stiff wind behind him. I knew that if he hit it accurately, he would have enough on it, because he does have a strong enough leg to get it up in the air and with the wind, I thought he had a chance. Did I think he would get it? I don't know, but I figured it was worth a shot because we had nothing to lose. We had the clock run down to about two seconds, so we thought ‘hey, lets give him a shot'. And it worked out."
On the performance of the young players on defense:
"I am really encouraged by what I see on defense. We had some young kids that we had to bring along, who were not ready at the beginning of the year. We had some upperclassmen that we were counting on to be full-time players. Now, what we are finding is that maybe a couple of those upperclassmen are maybe more effective as part-time players. It is a combination of less reps, less thinking, more playing, not putting them in tough spots and not making things too difficult for them. These young kids are really coming along. I am really pleased with what I see, but we still need our veteran guys to play. We still need to get 25-30 snaps a game out of those guys. We will be tested this week. This will be a good test for our defense on how to play the ball and how to compete one-on-one with guys. I think it will be good for them."
"I think the young guys are really talented young guys, who are playing early in their careers, where we would have liked to bring them along a little later, but did not have that choice. There are things that they do not know, but they are really playing hard and really playing smart football. What we are asking them to do, they are able to do. I think they are hard-nosed kids. They are tackling people, they are getting them on the ground and they are playing their assignments well. It is not perfect. We have some busts out there, but that is going to happen. I mean, we have had busts with veteran players. I think what they have done is pushed the veteran guys a little bit. I think some of those guys [the veterans] have caught on that the young guys will knock them off the field if they don't pick it up and get going. So, I think we are getting better with the veteran guys, but in some areas, they have not stepped up in the way we would have liked at this point and the young kids are ready to play. And you know my philosophy: the best players go on the field, whether you are a true freshman or a fifth-year senior."
Senior Quarterback Todd Reesing
On Texas Tech's defense:
"They have continually improved over the years. It's a team that's got a lot of talent and a lot of athleticism on the defensive side of the ball. They keep a more simple outlook, but at the same time, you never know what they're going to do. You never know how they're going to come out and play us. We have to get ready for it. We had some trouble against them last year, it wasn't our best game. I'm sure they're looking to build on that. This is a rebound game for both teams, so I think there's going to be a lot of focus and hard work this week getting ready for Saturday."
On feeling a sense of urgency:
"We know we need to get this thing back on the right track and we need to do it in a hurry. I think this week is very important for us to come out and try and get better and have a great week of practice and see if we can't bounce back on Saturday. With the group of seniors that we have, we're not going to give up. We're going to come out and work even harder and we're going to get this team going in the right direction."
On forgetting about bad offensive games:
"You can't let one game affect your mindset. This is the world of sports, you can't go out and put up big numbers and score a lot of points every week. You have to realize that you have to bounce back from tough games. We're still a talented football team. On offense, we still have a lot of guys who are great playmakers. We're not going to let one bad game set us back. All the guys have all the confidence in the world. We're not going to change that and we're not going to lose that confidence or that swagger. We're just going to rebound. We're going to bounce back and go back to work."
Senior Running Back Jake Sharp
On how to improve the run game:
"I think we just need to keep getting fundamentally better. There are things that we're doing in practice and maybe we're not converting it on the field as far as what our coaches want. I think it's just as simple as having the attitude that we need to go out ready to play at the start of the game and get the offense established early. Once the running game gets established, then the passing game opens up and that gets things rolling for us."
On feeling a sense of urgency this week:
"Every week there's a sense of urgency. We want to win every game, there's no question. Anytime you go on the road in the Big 12, it's not going to be easy. It's going to be a tough venue to play at. We definitely have a strong sense of urgency to get things back on track."
Sophomore Cornerback Daymond Patterson
On seeing improvement in the defense the last two weeks:
"I think we really have seen improvement in the defense. I think we get to the ball a lot faster. I think more people are filling their right gaps and making more plays on the ball. I think we still have a ways to go but we are going in the right direction."
On facing Texas Tech's offense:
"Being a defensive back, you really have to be excited to face Texas Tech's offense because you know they are going to throw the ball so much. You know you're not going to have to come up as much for the run. You know you're going to get a lot of chances to get your hands on the ball and make plays out there, so it really is exciting to play them."
On slowing Texas Tech down:
"Of course when you throw the ball like Texas Tech, you're going to complete passes and get yards. The biggest key is to just make sure that you are assignment sound and just know what you're seeing out there. One play, if there is a missed assignment, there could be a receiver running down the field and that's six points. That can be prevented by just making sure you're communicating with each other."
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this week is must win
It’s make or break in terms of competing for the North title. I think 9-3 gets us to dallas for sure and 8-4 is a bit iffy but doable if other teams continue to falter. It would be galling to see KSU get the this year…
Wait. Sarah Palin's in Hong Kong? But who's watching Russia?
9-3 definitely get's us there at this point...
because it means we’ve managed to beat K-State, Missouri and Nebraska. That’s assuming K-State loses to OU of course. If K-State beats OU, then all bets are off.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
This has been a crazy season...
but K-State will not win in Norman.
9-3 gets us there for sure. And probably even 8-4, as long as we sweep the North.
by hiphopopotamus on Oct 28, 2009 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't see it that way
It would be good to get this win, no doubt.
But to call it a “must win” game? Nah. 4-4 in conference could still win us the North division and a chance at another spanking by the Longhorns.
Sawin' wood
On an unrelated note -
I still can’t stand Bowen.
Tell me this…I’ve railed on his soft coverage for 2 years now, I absolutely abhor it. My understanding is that our DB’s need time to read the routes and don’t want to get burned deep. I disagree but at least there’s some logic there. HOWEVER, WTF are doing when playing 10 yards off the ball when the ball is on our own 15 yard line? I watched the game on Saturday, the telestrater guy even circled the match-up. 5 seconds later, touchdown Oklahoma. The WR ran a quick little 15 yard in route which back our DB even farther back and was all alone underneath for probably the easiest pitch and catch (outside of training camp) that he’s had all year. I’m so effing sick of it.
I didn’t want to make another fan post because I feel like a broken record but I just wish something would change…
Wait. Sarah Palin's in Hong Kong? But who's watching Russia?
by labbadabba on Oct 28, 2009 9:49 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I know exactly the play you are referencing...
and Beshears was completely out of position because of the set. I don’t know what else to say at this point but I will say I’ve seen more than one other fanbase in the Big12 complain about the same thing. It must be the thing to do as a D-Coord
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
It's the thing to do when you don't have cover corners
And I don’t understand why people don’t understand this: we don’t have anyone on the roster that can be a consistent cover corner. There are NO Aqib Talib’s on this roster. A Charles Gordon and Aqib Talib are a rare occurence for teams such as KU that don’t get the premier talent.
Sawin' wood
yes but on the play he's mentioning...
OU was on about the 10 yard line and Beshears was set about 3 yards deep in the endzone. That’s pointless.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
It's a true freshman
being taught to cover the ball 10 yards back. I’m sorry, cover corner or no, we’re playing 5 DB’s. We play a deep cover zone with our safties, we have a safety net if they go deep on us. What is killing us is under routes. Quick slants, quick ins/outs, curls, screens, etc. Until we prove we can stop those plays we’ll continue to be burned by them; and at a much higher percentage than deep bombs.
Me no likey Clint Bowen.
Rivet...quick question...
You think Beshears was told to line up that way because he’s a true freshman? or Beshears made an error in judgement because he was a true freshman and lined up that way?
Either way, when facing a spread offense that makes calls at the line…why would you play a few yards deep in the endzone when the other team is in within striking distance of a touchdown?
There’s two ways to get beat on this. Soft coverage as we saw allowing a quick slant and two steps for a score, or you can press and try to fight off the fade. Either one creates problems for a true freshman without a doubt but I guess I’d rather take my chances against the fade.
Now in the middle of the field I see your point, but in this specific situation I’m not completely sure I agree. Hopefully I don’t come off as an ass here, but I’m just not seeing it in every situation. I completely agree that lockdown corners are tough to come by but we’ve got to at least try in certain situations don’t we?
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
Lost - not just a TV show....also a KU DB
I think DJ made an error in judgement. I honestly believe he wasn’t aware of how close to the endzone OU was and they were in hurry up which didn’t help. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he was more concerned about getting a PI penalty when defending a fade (and who could blame him?……seems anymore that any DB in the Mangino era who gets a PI penalty ends up seeing the bench almost immediately….see Davis and Rubles for recent examples) than letting the WR catch the quick slant.
I would agree with you that fighting off the fade would be a better choice. However, I really think that DJ just got caught naping (thinking too much…not just reacting…but who can blame a true freshman who just six months ago was more concerned about how to get his prom date’s bra unsnapped with one hand than covering OU WRs?)
Like it or not, I think the Bowen philosophy with the current defensive talent is to hold and hope. Hold them to as little gain as possible (yes, concede a gain). And hope they eventually make a mistake (a fumble, a pass batted at the line, a holding penalty, anything).
If we press with our current DBs here’s what happens: they get burned and the other team scores in 1 or 2 play 80 yard TD drives consisting of 1 minute 10 seconds (including extra point).
If we give a 10 yard cushion, that offense has to execute 7 or 8 plays. And that’s 7 or 8 time where they can make a mistake…..which is better than the 1 or 2 times if we press.
Hold and hope.
Again, this is all dictated by the talent/experience we are able to put on the D. If we ever end up with another DL that can pressure, maybe we can press a bit more. But we don’t, so anytime our DBs take a step forward….its a roll of the dice. So I agree, with no other options, we do have to gamble a bit and that would have been a good time to try.
Sawin' wood
This is exactly right...
I’m not saying I agree with it and i wish more than anything we’d start showing this, but then looking to jump routes. But this is their philosophy: we don’t have the players to outright stop them how we want to, so we’re goign to make them work to beat us. We’re betting that teams won’t be able to sustain enough long drives against us to keep up with our offense. Problem lately is that our offense hasn’t held up their end of the bargain.
by hiphopopotamus on Oct 28, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
great points and thanks...
I have to agree that Mangino at times seems a bit quick with the trigger finger after a mistake and that goes back to last year when we saw Corrigen Powell briefly before he ran into the bermuda triangle of the Kansas defensive backfield depth chart.
I’m “hoping” that the recent focus in recruiting athletic DB’s eventually pays off and we don’t have to rely on a hold and hope defense. Truthfully I’m not sure I wouldn’t put the blame on the front 7 or in our case 6 for making the hold and hope necessary. Unfortunately it seems our DB’s typically take the brunt of the punishment.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
But the chance of failure is not equal...
I completely understand what is being said, however, I think the degree of difficulty of the two types of plays is being overlooked. Without going all stats on everyone, let me put it very generally. If the chance of getting 5 yards or more on a short pass with our current coverage is 3 out of 5 plays(which I would argue is a conservative estimate), then the other team will get a first down somewhere around 65% of the time if they try all short plays. If we could knock that success of 5 yards down to 2 out of 5, then they would get half as many first downs on short plays. So supposing that a typical big pass play we would start giving up is 30 yards, we could give one up every 3rd set of downs and STILL be doing as well, not to mention the general better field position, less time of our defense on the field, etc. Given the difficulty of completing longer throws and reading coverages, etc., I would think this would easily be doable. If someone wants me to really work out scenarios, I can, but I think my point is made. Let me know if it is not, I will try to clarify.
While I agree
with Rivet that there’s logic behind the decision to run this soft cover scheme, I’m not debating that there is a reason only that it isn’t a good reason.
I simply don’t understand why with 5 DB’s that we can’t let at least one CB press on occasion. I’ve used this example before because it was a good one. When we needed a stop on 3rd down at the end of the ISU game to save the win, both our corners pressed.
What happened? ISU planned on throwing the same quick slant that had been working all day. The WR was jammed at the line of scrimage which threw off the route’s timing, our pass rush had an extra half second to get a little closer to the QB which caused him to throw a wounded duck on a timing route. Result: Ball falls harmlessly to the turf.
I know this is an isolated example, and it is that simply because this is the ONLY time I can remember Bowen calling for his DB’s to play press coverage.
I’m not saying that we should throw out the entire scheme but I am saying that we need to change things up in the secondary. We need to disrupt all those quick timing routes or Big XII offenses are going to continue having a field day.
Tell me, what’s scarier?
1) A QB and WR take advantage of blown coverage and complete a deep ball on occasion
or
2) An offense that continually converts their 3rd and long downs, marching down the field seemingly untouched to a score.
Me no likey Clint Bowen.
Everyone saw that play
I watched the game with a bunch of opera singers and even THEY were like, WTF?
Me no likey Clint Bowen.
I agree completely Labba.
I would rather give up 1 big play on a great deep throw then all of these short dink and dunk passes. Plus, if they are up close, maybe they could actually jump a route! We haven’t seen a DB do that in YEARS!!!
Our corners should be able to play up close
because Darrell Stucky has returned to form lately. The past couple weeks he has made huge breaks on the ball when a corner might be a bit deep or needed help to break up passes. With a top notch safety back there, you’d think our corners could play tighter coverage more, especialy when D-Stuck isn’t up in the box or on a blitz.

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