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Self, Collins and Aldrich from Big 12 Media Day

Kansas head coach Bill Self took the podium Thursday for a question and answer session at the annual Big 12 Basketball Media Day at the Sprint Center.

A few things really standout to me from Coach Self's comments.  First his comments on freshman Thomas Robinson's intensity in practice and how that has stepped up the overall competitiveness in practice.  I don't think anyone can over exaggerate the impact that the competition in the program is going to benefit this years team and those moving forward.

Secondly, coach really gives some high praise to Cole Aldrich and it's just fun to watch a guy like Cole come in as a wide eyed freshman who really made his presence known once in a big way, but now is developing into a leader and a potentially dominant player with the program.

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PETER IRWIN: Coach Self, welcome. Your opening comments, sir.

COACH SELF: I know I can probably speak for everybody that we're all very excited to be here this morning. This early. No, it's an exciting time. Of course, everybody's optimistic this time of year, and rightfully so. I really like our team. I think we have a chance to be a special group. We'll have to be very special because I think the league is the best since I've been in it, and I think it's the best it's going to be since the inception of the league. We've had success in the league the last few years, and certainly it will be much more difficult to maintain that because of the quality of teams in the league.

PETER IRWIN: Okay. We'll take questions. When you ask a question, we'll get a microphone to you.

COACH SELF: I wonder if Mike Jones will ask the first question.

PETER IRWIN: He always does, Coach.

Q. Let's get this out of the way, Bill. How did the events of the recent past affect the image of your program and the chemistry of your team, if at all?

COACH SELF: I'm sorry, Mike. Would you elaborate on that? I don't know what you're talking about. You know, for a short term, I do think it probably hit us from an image standpoint, you know, especially with the fight. But from a long-term standpoint, I don't think it's going to hurt us from an image standpoint. I think it's one of those things that people deal with and move forward. As long as you don't have major hits after it. You look around the country, and all programs have had something at some point in time. Unfortunately, it was a distraction we had to deal with. Fortunately, it was a distraction we dealt with before the season started. In my mind, I can say, that was the off-season; now the season is a fresh start. I'm not real happy with our guys for those events that took place. But if we were that undisciplined and irresponsible that selfish motives could get in the way of something so insignificant as that at that point in time, then we weren't obviously disciplined or responsible enough to win big. So, if anything, I think we'll be more disciplined. We'll be more responsible. And if you have that combination along with good players, I think that can make for some fun. I see it as being a positive over time, and certainly it was a negative in the short term.

 

Q. Coach, I know practice is just a week old. Can you talk about how your guys are developing and maybe if anybody has stood out or any -- a couple guys?

COACH SELF: Probably the guy that's been the most -- it's not really a surprise, but the most pleasant surprise, you know, from what I thought the day we were recruiting was Thomas Robinson. Thomas is a good player, and he'll impact his team immediately. His motor is different than what we've had, so he's definitely raised the level of -- not the - the level of effort may be the right word, from the twins. Thomas has changed practice more than anybody else. Xavier is a guy that's going to be really good. He's kind of finding his way right now. As he gets more comfortable, he's a thinker now instead of a reactor. As he gets more comfortable, I really think the ceiling is so high for him. Those two have been the two most pleasant surprises. Withey's been nicked up. He's hurt right now. He's going to be out a significant amount of time with the bum knee. And Elijah Johnson's come along nicely. It's just going to take some time. C.J. Henry has been in and out with injuries, but he's going to be a nice player too. I'd say Thomas has been the most pleasant surprise we've had so far.

 

Q. Bill, when you look at the First Team Preseason All-Big 12 picks, how many of those guys do you put on an All-American list, maybe Player of the Year, National Player of the Year candidate?

COACH SELF: You know, if I recall correctly, I think there's six. Is that right? They all deserve to be on the first team. And I think you have six pros there, not just good college players. I think you have six pros. I also think there are a couple others that may emerge to be in the top six players or seven players in our league that hadn't even been mentioned yet. So that tells you the depth - the quality of players. You know, I think Brackins is deserving of All-American mention without question. I think Damion James. I think he's terrific. I think he's very deserving. I think Willie Warren is as good as any guard in the country, especially a combination of strength and scoring and all those things. And James Anderson, to me, is a guy that could get -- you know, could get 30 any night. Those four have gotten a lot of attention. Then there's several newcomers, and you throw in R2, who I think Sherron is about as good a league guard, if not the best guard in the country. And I think Cole's the best big man. So you could make a case that you could have guys fighting each other in the league not only for Player of the Year honors but for big-time national honors also, I agree.

 

Q. Bill, you think there's any kind of common denominator. There's been an influx of freshmen that make for the top ten in some lists. Just a bunch of guys. Any reason in particular why so many teams are getting so many good players?

COACH SELF: I think the staffs, the respective staffs all know what they're doing. The League is a good recruiting league too. I also think you talk about our league, and primarily the state of Texas being the proximity of players, but schools are going outside their area also and bringing in some really good talent. But when Durant plays at UT, and then when Beasley plays at K-State, and Griffin plays at Oklahoma, how could young kids not be interested in going to a league which has produced, you know, the premier player in America the last three years. So that's kind of how I see it. All those guys were the best players in the country the last three years. They may not have won all the awards, but they impacted the game more so than anybody else. So I think recent success. You know, this may sound like we're patting ourselves on the back, but I think one thing that the Big 12 hadn't had happen prior to '08 was, as great a league as it was, they haven't been able to crown a champion. Maybe that and the combination of Durant and Beasley and Griffin and coaches that know what they're doing. Maybe that's all been a bonus because the league is going to continue to get good players.

 

Q. Bill, two years ago you lost some great players. Could you have imagined rebuilding this quickly?

 COACH SELF: You know, recruiting is a weird deal in that sometimes you don't get what you deserve, and a lot of times you get what you don't deserve. I would have had no idea. I had no idea Cole would be what he's become. I knew Sherron was a good player, but we went into last season thinking we had one good player, and Cole emerged to be outstanding, and then our young guys really developed as the season went on. You know, the way we got Tyshawn Taylor was because of a coaching change. We didn't deserve that. That kind of fell in our lap. So we've been fortunate in that regard. You know, one thing about our guys, you know, they expect to have success, and they play at a place every day where there's pressure on them to perform. I think in a lot of ways that forces the development more rapidly with our young kids than maybe what it would some other places just because they feel that every day that they wake up.

 Q. Bill, there's been a pretty good coaching turnover the last, I guess, three or four seasons. Has the style of play in the Big 12 changed much in your time there?

COACH SELF: Yeah, it probably has. But I think the league, if anything, it may be playing a little faster. I think having Mike at Missouri kind of helps create that image because they do play fast and really pressure. And the thing about it is there's been a lot of turnover coaching-wise, and I think some people probably questioned whether or not the turnover -- we were losing such experienced guys, that the turnover would be able to measure up to those guys. I think what people have shown already, in that these coaches in our league, they're getting it done. I mean, the programs, if they haven't been elevated, they're real close to being on the verge of being elevated in a short amount of time. So I think there has been a lot of smart ADs, to be honest with you, that have made some hires that were very good and represented their university very well.

 Q. Bill, from what you can tell around college basketball, how unique is Cole as a true post man?

COACH SELF: I think you have -- we've had some true post men in college, going back to Oden, although just one year, that was a true five. But the game's getting smaller in that he knows who he is. We have a couple of true fives in our league that -- you know, Pittman obviously at Texas -- they're true fives. You don't have to pacify them in any way other than this is what your job is, this is what you do. At this time, all fives want to be fours, all fours want to be threes, all threes want to be twos, and these guys want to be fives. I'd say it's unique. There's probably more out there than what's called attention to. But as far as -- you know, Cole has a chance, in my opinion -- a lot depends on what kind of year he has, obviously. He could be the best true big man Kansas has had since Wilt. You start and think about the true big man. Danny wasn't a center and Raef wasn't a center. But you really look at it, that's a pretty big statement for 50-plus years that he could be the best true big guy. I'd say not common, but certainly not totally unusual to have a guy like Cole that knows who he is. Most -- there's just not very many guys out there that do that. Most guys feel like they've got to be something else, and he doesn't feel that way at all.

 Q. Back to Cole, you talked about he became something you didn't expect right away. Was it just the fact that he had -- he was able to have that playing time extensively last year?

COACH SELF: I don't think so. I think that, obviously, when you get playing time and experience, you've got a chance to get better. You know, in recruiting, most guys - I shouldn't say most guys, but the majority of guys that we deal with, and I'm sure the majority of guys that guys in this league deal with, they look at your roster, and they say how can I play immediately? It's a quick fix. I want to go somewhere that I can impact it right off the bat or have a chance to start. The best thing for Cole was that didn't register with him. He went to a place that he wanted to be at first and foremost, and then style and playing time and all that was way secondary. And the fact -- what got him better prepared more than anything was getting his butt beat every day by Sasha and Darnell and Shady. That prepared him. Cole played eight minutes a game as a freshman, and four of the minutes don't count because they were mop-up minutes. So he probably averaged four minutes a game as a freshman and got better every day in practice and used practice as his vehicle for getting better. And then at the end of the year, obviously, he had the one good game, and you can kind of see what it was -- what was getting ready to happen. To me, I don't think it was last year's experience, I think it was him having the right attitude his freshman year when he went getting experience is what allowed him to be pretty good last year.

PETER IRWIN: Coach, thank you.

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I’ve tried really hard to get into KU football and I’ve followed a lot more than I have in the past. Don’t have that problem with hoops.

I used to work with an old man that told me. Son, every workplace has a dumbass, if you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.

by Warden11 on Oct 22, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm with you, Warden

I dig KU football big time now, but I LIVE for KU Hoops. This is gonna be a ridiculous year.

It's rather ironic that people will actually have to pay money to see Michael Moore's new Anti-Capitalism film, don't you think?

by Bensa on Oct 22, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

no college basketball at all?

Or just NBA, for which I wouldn’t blame anybody.

It's rather ironic that people will actually have to pay money to see Michael Moore's new Anti-Capitalism film, don't you think?

by Bensa on Oct 23, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wish I could rec that more than once

Once for the football comment (I find basketball boring, and watching the last 3 seconds of any game in really frustrating…..timeout city)

Once for the NHL comment. Ole Melrose would have some really funny chit come out of his mouth sometimes.

Sawin' wood

by Rivethead on Oct 23, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Problem I have with a lot of NCAA basketball games

Is there is absolutely no need to watch anything but the last 5 minutes in 95% of the game. Most games, going to the last 5 minutes, its close enough that anything can happen.

Look at the NCAA tourny. I love it, and they just start games a few minutes after each other, so you can see game A, then the end of game B, game C, etc etc.

I still like hoops though, but football is my first love.

by KU Grad 08 on Oct 23, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you can say that for any sport unless you're watching your team

I don’t really want to watch anything but the 4th quarter of some random football game, why watch anything but the 9th inning of a baseball game? I think the argument holds for most sports unless it’s your team

by I need more Esteban on Oct 23, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel like its more severe in basketball

I mean the tourny for example, 4 out of every 5 games are within a 5 point game going into the last 4-5 minutes. Football it seems like more games get wrapped up earlier and leads are safer towards the end of a game. Same in baseball (although my perspective may be warped from watching the royals).

by KU Grad 08 on Oct 23, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clement and Thorne

also my favorite broadcasting team in the NHL on those awesome old ESPN games. Do miss.

I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Oct 23, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

totes they were great together

Sometimes I watch orioles broadcasts just to hear gary thorne.

Wait. Sarah Palin's in Hong Kong? But who's watching Russia?

by labbadabba on Oct 23, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've done that, too!

I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Oct 23, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love the coverage

but definitely still in football mode. Ever since the Orange Bowl year I’m never quite ready for basketball until football is totally out of it. Once we get into December, though, I’ll be fully enthraled.

by I need more Esteban on Oct 22, 2009 7:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm the same way...

don’t miss a basketball game don’t get me wrong, but I’m still in football mode until after Thanksgiving at least.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Oct 22, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

well we got 2 Denver

let’s see who else we can get on board

by I need more Esteban on Oct 22, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I LIKE EM BOTH!

KU Sports is not a zero sum game for me. But then again, I have no life, so…there’s that.

Have you guys seen the youtube video of the warmup dunks from Midnight at the Phog? Here’s a bit of a surprise- one of the best dunkers on the team? Tyrel Reed!

Check it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyhRJ6SipuA

BONUS: Sherron proves he can still throw down at one point. Boo yeah.

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Oct 22, 2009 10:57 PM CDT reply actions  

fanshot that brother

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Oct 22, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds mysterious

It's rather ironic that people will actually have to pay money to see Michael Moore's new Anti-Capitalism film, don't you think?

by Bensa on Oct 22, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw a video from a different angle

and T2 had a SICK reverse 360 (also shown on the video above). Well worth checking out. FYI, we’ve got some very athletic kids on this team.

It's rather ironic that people will actually have to pay money to see Michael Moore's new Anti-Capitalism film, don't you think?

by Bensa on Oct 22, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about this nugget in this morning's KC Star..

“Self and Texas coach Rick Barnes both said they have had informal discussions about adding a second KU-Texas game to the schedule that would be considered a nonconference meeting. They are interested in bringing more attention to the league’s premier matchup. They said the nonconference game would take place in Dallas when the league game was at KU and in Kansas City when the league game was at Texas.”

No idea how soon this would begin, if it ever does, but I think that would be great for both schools. You know that nonconference game would be nationally televised.

I posted this same thing on Burnt Orange Nation so I’ll be curious to get UT fans’ take on it. Hard to see anyone being against the idea.

by KU_Lew on Oct 23, 2009 8:15 AM CDT reply actions  

WOW!

I LOVE this idea. Those matchups are always epic no matter who comes out on top. It would get so much attention just because it’s unprecedented.

In general, I would like to see KU toughen up its non-con schedule more. I just feel like some of the games we play (Cornell? Really?) are just a waste of time, and nothing is really gained from them.

Good luck getting much of a reaction on a basketball story over there, BTW.

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Oct 23, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

cornell is going to be pretty good this year

http://twinkietalk.com
http://thecollegehockeyblog.com

by fetch9 on Oct 23, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

cornell is a tournament team

any tournament team you play is never a waste of time, never

by I need more Esteban on Oct 23, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do like it and think it would really take what has become a bit of a rivalry to the next level...

at the same time I do think Kansas has less to gain from adding this to the schedule and it doesn’t really solve the unbalanced Big12 schedule argument which is where I believe this whole idea initially came about.

This is Bill Self has clearly shown he’s willing to play some marquee non-con matchups so I’m sure if Lew and Bill can find a way to make this a fairly lucrative annual event it could well be done.

Here’s a quick question on it though. This game would obviously be played early in the year during the non-con slate. I’ve always been of the opinion that it’s tough to beat a team twice in a season when you are talking about this level of program. Doesn’t this maybe give the losing team in the non-con portion a bit of a chip and extra motivation in the conference portion? Just a thought….I just think the tune would change if Kansas was consistently beating UT in the non-con game but losing in the conference game.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Oct 23, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more, Denver

KUSports.com had a bit about this topic and Self basically said he didn’t really think it would happen because, when it comes right down to it, Texas is on the same level as, say, Villanova, or another big-time conference team. Self really questioned whether or not it would benefit KU to schedule this other game. He also mentioned that, more often than not, the two teams meet in the Big XII Tournament anyway, so we usually get 2 games out of it.

Personally, I’m of two minds about it. I do think this is a great rivalry for the Big XII, and it’s a shame they only play one time a year. BUT, that one game usually means all the more to each team simply because it IS only played once during the year. People compare it to if UNC and Duke only played once a year, and I understand the comparison (it’s quite flattering, actually), but unless they’re both conference games, I just don’t see it really benefiting KU all that much. I’d rather see another game with a marquee opponent from another conference, but that’s just me.

It's rather ironic that people will actually have to pay money to see Michael Moore's new Anti-Capitalism film, don't you think?

by Bensa on Oct 23, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think KU should play one of the traditional powerhouses once every year

i.e.

Duke
UNC
UK (uck)
UCLA
Indiana (if in name only)

If no other reason other than to simply assert our dominance over the other handful of ‘elite’ teams.

Wait. Sarah Palin's in Hong Kong? But who's watching Russia?

by labbadabba on Oct 23, 2009 10:29 AM CDT reply actions  

well you can cross...

UNC off that list, Roy isn’t going to schedule Kansas. I could see both UK and UCLA becoming real possibilities but I don’t know if Duke would go for that either.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Oct 23, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've heard

Lew Perkins has been in talks with Duke, but that was a couple years ago. Maybe they’ve tabled that discussion for now.

I like Labba’s list a lot, though, save maybe Indiana. I’d like us to play a Gonzaga or Butler-type team every once in a while too.

It's rather ironic that people will actually have to pay money to see Michael Moore's new Anti-Capitalism film, don't you think?

by Bensa on Oct 23, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

eh...

I don’t like the Gonzaga/Butler type games. We really have nothing to gain there.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Oct 23, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I admit it's not full of positives

but at least it gives us a prep for the upstart mid-major in March. That’s all I’m thinking there.

It's rather ironic that people will actually have to pay money to see Michael Moore's new Anti-Capitalism film, don't you think?

by Bensa on Oct 23, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thought about it

but I don’t want to dignify that program with the ‘Elite’ status title.

Wait. Sarah Palin's in Hong Kong? But who's watching Russia?

by labbadabba on Oct 23, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indiana may be in name only now, but give Crean a few years.

They’ll be back.

I used to work with an old man that told me. Son, every workplace has a dumbass, if you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.

by Warden11 on Oct 24, 2009 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

DO NOT DICOUNT INDIANA

Until KU has won 5 NCAA Titles, I would not discount Indiana!

by SPARTANGREEN on Oct 27, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's completely irrelevant...

don’t get me wrong I’m not discounting Indiana in the long term because I imagine eventually they’ll get back on track, but your reasoning is stupid.

Does that mean that anyone with less than two titles should automatically hold the utmost respect for the mighty San Francisco basketball program that is insignificant in today’s game. Or perhaps those who have yet to get over the hump and win a title should fear the mighty City College of New York, the La Salle Explorers, UTEP or the Cowboys of Wyoming simply because they were able to win a championship back in the 50’s.

I know I’m going extreme here but make a better argument. We aren’t discounting Indiana right now for any reason other than they’ve been in the shits lately.

No offense intended, just don’t agree with this in the least.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Oct 27, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Elite opponent

The Big12 has the standing arrangement with the Pac10 for conf-conf mathups similar to Big10-ACC. Why not have another conf-conf set of matchups? BigEast? SEC? Big10? ACC?

The mid’s have the bracket buster weekends, but are likely to really scream if the big 6 conf’s started doing something like this.

by dagger108 on Oct 23, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Remember 2008?

Watch the 2008 NCAA CHAMPS!
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by BIG12FAN on Oct 28, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions  

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