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In another effort to draw more traffic to RCT, we're going to try and start having postgame threads.

No analysis or anything, just a place to talk about the game right after it happens. This is to keep OGT numbers purely for the game, and to try and limit those numbers. Also, it gives someone a chance who doesn't want to get to the end of the OGT and just wants to hear general thoughts.

Also, this is where comments about other games (like KSU-Mizzou, tonight) are greatly encouraged.

Seriously, that's all. I want to get this one up tonight, so I'm just going to leave it at that.

Come talk here, now!

I will say, quickly, that this was a huge win. We didn't play all that well, especially in the first half where their D confused the absolute hell out of us, but we played much better in the second half and were able to come away with a huge win. These are the wins that keep teams alive for conference championships; the games so many teams seem to lose. When they hit those two threes, they had every ounce of momentum, and there was no real reason why they wouldn't come back and win. But, they didn't, we were able to stay ahead. So, that's big.

Yeah.

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Definitely.

NIT is my prediction.

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by Warden11 on Jan 28, 2009 9:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Huge win.

Those road worries ought to be out the window. They were either non-existant or the problems have been fixed. The Hawks can and will win on the road. You got a guy scoring 42? No problem, our team will beat your team. You want to throw up 3’s and hack the crap out of us? No problem, we’re tougher and better than you.

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by Warden11 on Jan 28, 2009 9:03 PM CST reply actions  

KSU with a big 3

going into the half. 13 point lead.

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by Warden11 on Jan 28, 2009 9:03 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, I'm definitely rooting for the Powercats here.

I want Mizzou to make it to the NCAAs for the sake of the Big 12, but they should still be good.

by rockchalk on Jan 28, 2009 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn.

K-State up 13 at half.

Holy hell.

by rockchalk on Jan 28, 2009 9:04 PM CST reply actions  

Hey RockChalk...

I’ve got an idea for another postgame feature I’ll start doing beginning with this game. It should compliment your typical player recaps pretty well. I guess my question is you typically have yours up the following morning I think. My thought was I’d do mine later that evening. Other idea is I can probably have mine up first thing the following morning if you would rather have a little more time for yours. Either way I was thinking we could both have a postgame feature for the day after and just space it out between morning and early evening….your thought??

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 9:06 PM CST reply actions  

That'd be awesome.

Yeah, with school and stuff, I won’t get my postgame recap done until tomorrow night. So, if you want them separated, it’d be better to have it ready for the morning.

I also want to do a linkfest tomorrow morning, like this morning’s pregame linkfest, don’t know if that has anything to do with what you want to do.

Wow, that was a terrible sentence. In any case, yeah, that’d be really cool. I’ll do the linkfest for tomorrow morning, and then my traditional recap at night.

by rockchalk on Jan 28, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope that should work...

so going forward why dont we have the postgame plan be…

1st..your linkfest in the mornings

2nd…late morning-early afternoon my feature (more statistical in nature)

3rd…following evening or 2nd morning after your typical feature that includes the player analysis and breakdown

This way we’ve got some consistent features folks can look for regarding a game recap.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

That’s the goal in the future for RCT. To have constant opportunities for people to talk about new things we’re putting up.

It’s like we’re a big boy blog, now!

Yay. We’re moving to the pull ups, folks. Not the muscle-kind; the pee-in-your-pants kind. Diapers are no longer on RCT, baby!

by rockchalk on Jan 28, 2009 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

obviously on...

those sunday to monday turnarounds or tournament time we’ll have to up the turnaround time so we can get previews in as well but as a general rule this should work

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

But yeah, other than those special instances, this schedule should work in general.

by rockchalk on Jan 28, 2009 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah we should also figure out a schedule for our pregame stuff...

your Kenpom and my Nuts and Bolts

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah.

Hit me up with an email, and we can work all of this stuff out.

by rockchalk on Jan 28, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I was going to suggest you guys

trade email addy’s, you know they’re kind of useful for bloggers.

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by Warden11 on Jan 28, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I know.

We have each others, it just looks like there are more comments if we have back-and-forth convos.

Haha.

Seriously, though, whatever.

by rockchalk on Jan 28, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah Warden...

we’re just padding numbers : D

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Going into my actual thoughts on the game....

Feel pretty damn good about this one. I was worried early, I’ve said it before Sadler is a good coach and he will make a tough matchup for us as long as he is in Lincoln.

Cole didn’t have it offensively but he did man up in the 2nd half and find a way to contribute by dominating the boards.

Morris twins while not always pretty did show some great hustle tonight at times.

Sherron is a man

Tyrel…hit a three and talk some trash, love it…

Travis Releford…strong showing early in the game when we needed a lift.

I’m sure there were others but these stood out for me.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 9:14 PM CST reply actions  

Tyrel hit TWO big threes, thanks.

Seriously, though, Tyrel was ginormous in this game. That late pass where he threw it straight to the Nebraska guy was terrible, but other than that, you couldn’t have played any better than Tyrel did.

by rockchalk on Jan 28, 2009 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Sooooo

pretty sure my buddy nearly fried my computer… I got up off the couch to take a leak during halftime. I come back, and there is beer spilled all over my laptop. Got the hair drier out and dried this bitch out, and it seems to be working again.

Sorry I went MIA, guys. Looks like you all had a hell of a night without me, though!

"I just trust what he does. And he has such a great ass..... er... grasp" -Chase "Booger" DanielS on Colt McCoy's "Ass-ets"

by Andy Edwards on Jan 28, 2009 9:16 PM CST reply actions  

we thought maybe you passed out from to much JDaniels

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

No, actually I didn't even drink tonight...

I got an outline for a speech that I’m gonna be burning the midnight oil to do tonight for my 8 A.M. tomorrow.

"I just trust what he does. And he has such a great ass..... er... grasp" -Chase "Booger" DanielS on Colt McCoy's "Ass-ets"

by Andy Edwards on Jan 28, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously.

How the hell did we hit 700+ without you?

I mean, if we get EVERYONE here for a big game, we really could hit four-digits. We’re talking mulitple game threads, and everything.

Crazy stuff, ladies and gentlemen…

by rockchalk on Jan 28, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

We are definitely getting to the point of overflow threads..

at some point we’ll just have to say if we’re at 350-400 by half we should just make a 2nd half one to keep things somewhat orderly

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I was pretty pissed, as you can imagine.

Not only did I miss out on the all-time high OGT, but I almost had to call my mom and explain how I just ruined the laptop SHE bought me…

"I just trust what he does. And he has such a great ass..... er... grasp" -Chase "Booger" DanielS on Colt McCoy's "Ass-ets"

by Andy Edwards on Jan 28, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

didn't you just get that thing....or am I thinking of someone else.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Must be someone else....

I’ve had this since the summer.

"I just trust what he does. And he has such a great ass..... er... grasp" -Chase "Booger" DanielS on Colt McCoy's "Ass-ets"

by Andy Edwards on Jan 28, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Can this win

comment of the day?

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by Warden11 on Jan 28, 2009 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I've been slow all day, so I probably don't deserve it.

Now i’ve got to go back and check out the 500 comments I missed in the game thread.

by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2009 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

In other, site news.

We are now at 10,540 visits for the month; 28,200 page views.

We could really hit 12k and 30k page views. Awesome stuff.

by rockchalk on Jan 28, 2009 9:16 PM CST reply actions  

pretty awesome how much things have grown...

we’re even getting guys to jump out of the shadows in the middle of game threads

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

16 now with 13 minutes left.

damn, K-State can be good when things are going well.

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by Warden11 on Jan 28, 2009 9:36 PM CST reply actions  

Game. Over.

18 point victory. And Frank needs to settle down. Holy hell, Frank, at least give your team some compliments. They are playing out of their freaking minds.

by rockchalk on Jan 28, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions  

did they really win by 18...

i’ve been distracted lately

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Not yet.

Up by 19 with 10 minutes left.

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by Warden11 on Jan 28, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoops.

Sorry. Just meant 18-point lead.

by rockchalk on Jan 28, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd love to see

100 for the Cats tonight. I know I’m supposed to hate them, but they’re like a little brother. They’ll never be as good as the Hawks and they piss me off quite often, but I still prefer them to other Big 12 schools.

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by Warden11 on Jan 28, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Steven St. John

will not be a happy man tomorrow on 810.

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by Warden11 on Jan 28, 2009 9:40 PM CST reply actions  

My impressions

Wow, nice job of recovering in the 2nd half. With Cole in foul trouble, we weren’t as effective. But, he settled down, we got going, and we pulled it out.

Also, Cookie Miller is a punk. I first turned the game on and thought,“could he accessorize anymore?”. And my first impressions were correct. Nice job of our boys to keep their cool.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jan 28, 2009 9:50 PM CST reply actions  

dead bar night

so i came home to watch the Bulls… anybody here?

by Danny Satan on Jan 28, 2009 9:56 PM CST reply actions  

Kind of around...

working on a story for tomorrow

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

North Carolina tied with Florida State, currently, with 18 seconds left.

Damn. This would be a gigantic win for the Seminoles; would probably get them into the NCAAs assuming no bad losses, and save Leonard Hamilton’s job.

by rockchalk on Jan 28, 2009 10:15 PM CST reply actions  

damnit...

I hate UNC..but not as much as Missouri

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

UNC must DIE!

Not really, that would be tragic…but you know, metaphorically or something.

by labbadabba on Jan 28, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions  

all right...

I’m cashing in my chips got to get some sleep…new recap feature OTW tomorrow

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 10:24 PM CST reply actions  

one thing i wanted to ask going into tomorrow

is what your guys’ grade for Ty Taylor would be so far? i know he made that savvy pass before the half, but other than that he was pretty much a non-factor tonight and it seems like he’s kinda gotten lost in the shuffle offensively these past couple weeks.

now it could be due to the progress Little and Reed have made, and obviously there’s only one ball to go around, but i for one really feel like Taylor needs to sometimes just be given the keys to the offense so he can emerge like we all know he can.

by Danny Satan on Jan 28, 2009 10:25 PM CST reply actions  

Freshman...

will go through peaks and valleys. Sometimes the best you can hope for is that they peak at the right time. I think he’s just in a lull right now, he’ll get back at it.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

See:

Russell Robinson, freshman year.

"I just trust what he does. And he has such a great ass..... er... grasp" -Chase "Booger" DanielS on Colt McCoy's "Ass-ets"

by Andy Edwards on Jan 28, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

i don't think it's so much a freshman thing...

as i see it being more a matter of his role in the offense. obviously sherron needs to be the primary ballhandler and playmaker on O (as he should be), but at the same time it feels like a lot of Taylor’s talent is being wasted while he’s off the ball.

one thing i’ll point to is Sherron’s freshman year where he was the sparkplug off the bench; he wasn’t playing off the ball, instead he was given the reigns of the offense and Self allowed him to create. i think Taylor might be better utilized in a role similar to that. let Little start and bring Taylor off the bench to play the point/lead guard, even if it means sometimes moving sherron to the wing (we’ve seen self do this a couple times and sherron went wild).

by Danny Satan on Jan 28, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Main difference here is probably...

the fact that Sherron is going to play 35+ minutes per game for this team all year…when he was coming off the bench the guys he was replacing were not as relied upon and not playing as many minutes I would guess.

Tyshawn even if he’s coming off the bench is not going to handle the ball because he likely wouldn’t be coming in often for Collins. Coach Self trusts Collins hands down and has pretty much given him the team. That might be at the detriment of what Taylor is best at but it’s also probably what’s best for our chances right now.

I do agree with you that it has some to do with the way he’s being used but I do also think it’s a freshman thing to an extent.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 28, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions  

well he was coming in for Robinson and Chalmers that year

on a team that still had Ju Wright, Brandon Rush, Jackson, Arthur and Kaun… so he was given a pretty sizable role as the guy dominating the ball in a rotation where he was the youngest player.

you’re right on with everything you’re saying, i just think he’d benefit from gettin soem more quality time with the rock in his hands. just because sherron plays 37 minutes a night doesn’t mean he has to play all of them as the designated point guard. i forget which game it was, maybe a&m, where they had taylor bring the ball up a ton, with collins coming off curls and shit, and i remember i even posted how much i liked the look of that offense cuz it allowed collins to receive the ball in a position where his defender already was at a disadvantage.

anyways, i like this discussion and obviously, given his youth, we’ve only scratched the surface of what taylor can do, so it’ll be interesting to see how Self develops him (and in what role) going forward.

i’m out

by Danny Satan on Jan 28, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions  

They do this more often than you think...

They did do it against A&M and they did it some last night, and they’ve done it other nights as well dating back at least as far as the Syracuse game. In fact, both Tyshawn and Brady have brought the ball up with a little consistency lately to let Sherron run off a screen or two.

Now, Sherron is going to bring it up on the big possessions, but throughout the game they’ve definitely been mixing it up. I think the biggest reason you won’t see him as the primary ballhandler every game is his 6 turnovers last night. He keeps his head up well, gets to the basket well and distributes decently, but he’s just not smart or strong enough with the ball yet. And for our team to succeed we can’t waste too many possessions.

by hiphopopotamus on Jan 29, 2009 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Really interesting stuff, here, Danny.

This is what the FanPost section is for. Not sure if you want to do a FanPost, but a topic like this is what could drive a bunch of discussion. It is an interesting one, where there really isn’t a real right or wrong answer.

by rockchalk on Jan 28, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

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