Open Game Thread :: Game #15 :: Kansas 11-3 (0-0) @ #8 Michigan State 12-2 (3-0)
Kansas Jayhawks @ Michigan St. Spartans
Before we get to the Race for 4,000, here is a quickie preview of what the Spartans do well and don't do well, just to give a ballpark as to what to watch out for.
What Michigan State Does Well
- Adjusted Offensive Efficiency -- 15th in the country
- Offensive Rebounding -- 14th
- Three-Point Percentage -- 12th
- Defensive Rebounding -- 26th
- Assists/Field Goals Made -- 16th
- Forcing Turnovers -- 219th
- Defending the Three -- 172nd
- Drawing Free Throws -- 249th
- Fouling -- 273rd
The Race to 4,000 begins now...
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First
of many comments. Getting ready to fix my lunch and get settled in for the game.
by Warden11 on
Jan 10, 2009 11:08 AM CST
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I'll be around very, very soon...just wrapping up all the RCT Readers choice posts for next week...
the drive for 4000 is alive
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:21 AM CST
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Lets see
Drawing Free Throws- I bet we help them in that regard.
Forcing Turnovers- Same.
If they truly aren’t good at those two aspects, it should help us.
by Warden11 on
Jan 10, 2009 11:22 AM CST
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Sherron...
should be able to take pretty good care of the ball…
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:23 AM CST
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He should.
Our passing is what worries me. We saw it on inbounds plays last week.
by Warden11 on
Jan 10, 2009 11:31 AM CST
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for sure...
I guess I don’t know how aggressive MSU is with pressure normally.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:32 AM CST
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I'm here.
Today is a wondrous day. Two NFL Playoff Games and, for most conferences, the first day of conference play. Including the Big 12.
Plenty of games on the television, plenty of awesome games, plenty of action.
And a huge, gigantic game for our Kansas Jayhawks. Let’s hope we show up.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:26 AM CST
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Saw Missouri v. Nebraska was on ESPN2 today...
also I think it was Warden that posted ESPN Full court free preview this week includes KU vs. KSU
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:27 AM CST
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Yeah
after I posted that, I noticed that my cable provider doesn’t offer the package at all. So, I don’t even get the free preview.
by Warden11 on
Jan 10, 2009 11:32 AM CST
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DirecTV only I assume
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:33 AM CST
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So what's everybody think of the Kevin Young news??
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:30 AM CST
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Huge get.
Like most people are saying, I think this was a much different situation than the traditional recruit stringing a school along. He got caught up in some rivalry hype the day after Thanksgiving and made a decision. As long as he was all cool about it with Kansas and everything, we’re all good.
And moving on to the floor; awesome stuff. He is probably the best DE recruit we’re bringing in, and could conceivably play this year, I would assume. Especially considering he is an early High School grad, and will be on campus in a week-or-two.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:36 AM CST
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showed a lot of balls on his part to...
make that call to Husker coaches the day before he was supposed to move in…I know the recruitment and fans have been ugly at times, but I’m excited to have him on campus and get an early start…
I guess he’s been training w/former Chief and Husker Will Shields in KC to help his development
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:38 AM CST
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Warden...you need a pic...
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:35 AM CST
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ha...I'm sure it has far more pressing things...
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:39 AM CST
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I don't know why but...
the Big East annoys me.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:48 AM CST
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They are ridiculous this year.
I didn’t know a conference could be so amazing.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:51 AM CST
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I still don't like em'
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:53 AM CST
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My Big 12 Picks
OU over KSU
Baylor over Tech
NU over MU
Texas over ISU
A&M over OSU
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:58 AM CST
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I agree on all of them.
EXCEPT:
MU over NU
OSU over A&M at home.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:59 AM CST
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I probably picked more w/my heart than my head...
I want MU to lose…and Mark Turgeon to win…I’ll stick w/the picks though.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:00 PM CST
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Jayhawks on the front page of ESPN.com's college bball page..."It's That Time" is the headline
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:59 AM CST
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OK, almost gametime...
Anyone else here besides me, Denver and Warden?
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 11:59 AM CST
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where's Labadabba...Hunter, 2.1,...
Saturday games tend to lend themselves to sports bar watching so we might be down a few today.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:03 PM CST
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Going to have our work cut for us
to get to 4,000.
by Warden11 on
Jan 10, 2009 12:04 PM CST
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today just might not be the day...
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:04 PM CST
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I suppose.
Hope we can just get everyone together for some big conference game.
You’re probably right, though, it will probably have to be a weekday game.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:05 PM CST
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I love CBS College Bball in HD...
really an improvement over the local feed
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:01 PM CST
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Already clear...
that this is going to be a more hostile crowd than Arizona as many of us predicted.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:02 PM CST
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East Lansing vs. Tucson
I’d be more hostile in East Lansing, too.
by Warden11 on
Jan 10, 2009 12:04 PM CST
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So True...especially in January
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:05 PM CST
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Oh, I forgot to mention.
KenPom “predicts” Michigan State to win, 75-72. He also gives the Spartans a 62% chance to win (giving us a 38% chance to win, obviously.)
Not bad, I suppose. Thought it would be worse. KenPom’s stats love us though, they always seem to.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:04 PM CST
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If we keep it to that score...
that means we’ve got a shot at the end and i’ll take it
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:05 PM CST
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I'm here.
Just kinda fuzzy after a late night. May have to come off the bench later. Hopefully the Hawks are more awake than I am.
by hunter s. royal on
Jan 10, 2009 12:05 PM CST
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glad you could make it...fuzzy or not
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:06 PM CST
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We've got to be stronger on the boards...
great D by Cole and then they get another crack at it.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:07 PM CST
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That's one on Markieff.
Our D has played great so far, but we can’t let Kieff get stupid fouls like that.
Seriously, though, we keep playing like this and we should be fine.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:07 PM CST
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so far so good
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:08 PM CST
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Another foul.
2 fouls in three minutes.
by Warden11 on
Jan 10, 2009 12:13 PM CST
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Inbounds??
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:09 PM CST
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Well, looks like I was wrong.
Brady IS matched up on Raymar. If I were them, I’d just post him up, but oh well. I suppose Cole would then come over and hel pout.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:10 PM CST
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With Roe and Suton in Brady will have to
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:11 PM CST
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And Brady misses the dunk
after the whistle. Brady, you just can’t do that.
by Warden11 on
Jan 10, 2009 12:11 PM CST
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Nice job by Markieff...
but then he get’s another cheap foul
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:12 PM CST
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I suppose.
And after a great box-out on the defensive end and putback on the offensive end, he picks up his second foul already. Crap.
OK, Marcus, let’s go. Pick up your brother.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:13 PM CST
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went w/Little instead...
interesting
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:14 PM CST
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Trying to get a read
to make the redshirt decision?
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Jan 10, 2009 12:14 PM CST
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yep..
they have to make the decision after today, so they said they’d give it a go and see what he can do.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:15 PM CST
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Can we please learn to rebound
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:13 PM CST
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Set your feet and go up strong Cole...
your too damn big to try and finesse that crap
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:16 PM CST
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Well we all said they had to start strong...
it hasn’t been the best but they’ve made it to the first timeout w/a lead so that would be a good start in my book.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:16 PM CST
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Agree. We're looking awful soft on the boards though.
by hunter s. royal on
Jan 10, 2009 12:17 PM CST
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nothing new there
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:18 PM CST
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I have to say, I don't want to redshirt Little.
He is a really good guy on the boards; does a great job of boxing out.
And his offense should come around, eventually.
I’m fine with the start so far. We aren’t blowing their socks off or anything, but we are going back-and-forth with them, and are sticking with ‘em. We’ve done a pretty good job on Raymar. Lucas is amazing, though. Oh my goodness.
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Jan 10, 2009 12:18 PM CST
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I would agree...
redshirts don’t do a lot of good in Basketball, especially in our program where sometimes you just can’t get enough scholarships for the guys you want.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:19 PM CST
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I'm kind of nervous about giving up a run soon...
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:19 PM CST
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small lineup out there
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:20 PM CST
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crappy possession
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:20 PM CST
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6 offensive rebounds already for MSU..
not going to win if that continues.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:21 PM CST
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Damn it.
My tv feed is all sorts of screwed up. Two Saturdays in a freaking row. It’s 2009, get it figured out.
by Warden11 on
Jan 10, 2009 12:22 PM CST
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We give up too many 2nd chance opportunities...
and we get hardly any, rebounding is a big problem with this group and I’m sure it drives Bill Self up the wall.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:23 PM CST
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Yikes.
They are clearly the better team, thus far.
And a good offensive rebounding team combined with our lack of defensive rebounding is going to be disastrous all day.
I’m not looking forward to it.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:24 PM CST
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But wait, I am.
Hopefully, Marcus can figure stuff out, and learn how to box-out sometime today. If we box-out, and make shots, we’re good. They play tough, physical defense, but it isn’t anything we can’t handle.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:26 PM CST
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uuuugggghhh...
this is going to be stressful
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:25 PM CST
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Second that. This could get rough.
by hunter s. royal on
Jan 10, 2009 12:26 PM CST
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Already have my beer on hand.
If it gets ugly, I’ll just start drinking and sleep until tomorrow.
by Warden11 on
Jan 10, 2009 12:27 PM CST
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Cole looks pretty average so far today...
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:28 PM CST
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at least offensively
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:28 PM CST
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Agreed.
I don’t think he’s a big fan of a lot of contact. He struggled against Zona, too, where Jordan Hill was physical with him.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:29 PM CST
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pretty amazing considering...
he had to practice w/Jackson, Kaun and Arthur all last year…he should be comfortable with contact at this point.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:30 PM CST
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Come on Sherron
that was an awful pass. Then, you hurt yourself.
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Jan 10, 2009 12:29 PM CST
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Collins needs to get under control...
then maybe he won’t ram his nose into people
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Jan 10, 2009 12:29 PM CST
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Bad karma I guess. Do something dumb, get whacked.
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Jan 10, 2009 12:30 PM CST
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Our guys might
need headgear in that case.
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Jan 10, 2009 12:32 PM CST
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offense just looks bad since right before the first TV
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:31 PM CST
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I know he was fouled
but Cole has to make that shot on the black. Use the backboard or dunk the ball.
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Jan 10, 2009 12:33 PM CST
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+1
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:35 PM CST
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Again...great position by Cole...
drew the contact, but just can’t finish…
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:33 PM CST
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Nice pass to Cole, but should have finished.
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Jan 10, 2009 12:34 PM CST
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+1
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:35 PM CST
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and Cole's yip...
earns him 1 more crack to make a free throw
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:34 PM CST
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Happy about KU's point
or the one Denver awarded you?
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Jan 10, 2009 12:35 PM CST
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Dangerous territory right now.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:37 PM CST
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Yikes.
they are knocking down all of their shots, and we can’t get an open one to even take. Michigan State is easily the best defensive team we’ve played all year.
Still, we are playing absolutely terrible, and yet we are still only down 8. We’re not out of this one yet.
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Jan 10, 2009 12:38 PM CST
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Our offense
has been brutal. Cole’s had some decent shots, but he’s missed them. I’m not sure we’ve had a decent look in the last 10 minutes.
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Jan 10, 2009 12:40 PM CST
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not out of it...
but trending toward everything we couldn’t do and still expect to win
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Jan 10, 2009 12:40 PM CST
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Guess we'll see what....
our team is made of
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:41 PM CST
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Wow! Hightower gives us a break!
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Jan 10, 2009 12:42 PM CST
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shocking
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Jan 10, 2009 12:42 PM CST
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There is just absolutely NO...
offense, no one wants to make a play, a lot of standing and waiting and then a whole lot of nothing…Kleinman Sighting
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:42 PM CST
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What the hell is
Kleinman doing in there?
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Jan 10, 2009 12:42 PM CST
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Self is not happy about something...
that’s what a Kleinman appearance means
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:43 PM CST
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The Morris boys
have to be working their way into the doghouse.
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Jan 10, 2009 12:44 PM CST
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They actually own a fairly extensive Time-share...
at the doghouse.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:44 PM CST
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Down payment made on the
air gun incident.
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Jan 10, 2009 12:47 PM CST
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"Yes Finally"
the announcer stole my words
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Jan 10, 2009 12:44 PM CST
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Geez.
How many turnovers do we have?
This is terrible.
Appleton and Quintrell in, now.
Self is quite pissed off, right now.
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Jan 10, 2009 12:46 PM CST
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I'd like to see 2 things...
first Sherron stop forcing things…
second…manage to get this to around 8 by halftime…
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:46 PM CST
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WTF!!!
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Jan 10, 2009 12:47 PM CST
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this is unbearable
i think we’re all seeing just how terrible a defensive team tennessee was
by Danny Satan on
Jan 10, 2009 12:47 PM CST
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oh my god!!!!
it’s Danny Satan…we wondered if you would come back
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:49 PM CST
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in all seriousness...glad to have ya...
your welcome anytime…we weren’t sure if you were in fact a KU fan or not after your last appearance
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:52 PM CST
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as a chicagoan it's not easy finding a place to talk KU hoops
unfortunately, this offense is making me wish i never did
by Danny Satan on
Jan 10, 2009 12:54 PM CST
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what??...you mean we have offense... :D
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:55 PM CST
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Yikes.
Walton usually pretty much sucks on offense, and yet he is torching us.
And we can’t make three straight shots at a layup.
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Jan 10, 2009 12:47 PM CST
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Did anyone catch what Self said there..
the ref was talking about his injury…and Self said “just put his ass in a chair at half court”
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 12:51 PM CST
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Yeah.
Self is incredibly pissed off right now. I don’t think he is in the mood to laugh about a ref’s injury. He sounded almost serious, or like angry at the ref for getting hurt.
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yeah I would agree...
not sure he was joking too much with that one.
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OK, here is our chance to go on a little mini-run.
They are starting to actually miss shots. Nice fast-break bucket by Sherron, now we just need to make some shots on our end.
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that's been much
harder than it should be today.
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Yikes.
Sherron is forcing something just about every time down.
And Tyshawn looks lost.
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I don't even know what to say...
I feel like we’ve really played ourselves out of this one so far, more than MSU beating us this bad…
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Jan 10, 2009 1:00 PM CST
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Down 19 now
that’s what happens when you don’t score.
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+1 We are just not tough enough on offense.
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the good news is...
by the time these guys career are all said and done…Self will either make them tough…or make them quit
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Seeing Izzo
“wired for sound” makes me wonder what percentage of conversation they can use. I know Izzo is pretty intense, but don’t know how colorful his language is.
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I can tell you this much...
Self could never be wired for sound…he has mastered the art of stringing together words that you didn’t know were bad…but are
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And I'd imagine
he will use that ability at halftime.
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hahaha that's about this first time i cracked a smile since in the last 25 minutes
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and as you can tell
this game has already driven me to alcohol
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I guess we should have all anticipated a year like this...
but it doesn’t make it any easier…drinking however does…
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1st half grade...
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Wow.
Michigan State has made just about every single shot, and we can’t buy a bucket.
Seriously, though, what is the upside the rest of the game? Just try to get it close?
We aren’t handling the tight defense very well. I don’t think it is the crowd; the Zona crowd was louder, and I’ve been terribly unimpressed with the Izzone, or whatever it’s called.
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Try and figure out how to get decent looks
is what I want to see in the 2nd half.
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The goal needs to be...
to show some intestinal fortitude…this team needs to be tougher mentally and physically and it needs to start in the 2nd half. If they can do that and come away feeling good about the effort then maybe there is a positive to take into conference play. If we get run out of the building…I’m a little worried about nearly any road game from here on out.
Big 12 fans are going to be foaming at the mouth this year at an opportunity to “beat Kansas.” This team needs to show it has some fight in them on the road.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:07 PM CST
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well put
i want the morris bros to start thrashing people too
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unfortunately Markieff doesn't thrash...
he pokes and picks up cheap fouls…he needs Old Spice Swagger like LL Cool J
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Just turned to KSU/OU
and Bramlage sounds pretty loud. No matter your feelings for K-State, them being good is a great thing for the Big 12 and KU.
(as long as they don’t end up on probation)
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+1.
Agree entirely. Maybe I’m a bad person for this, but I kind of what the North teams to do well this year. And this includes Kansas State and Mizzou.
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K-State I can handle...
Mizzou…sorry, I would be ok if they fell off the earth
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Agreed on Mizzou.
I’ve never liked them and Chase Daniel just made it worse. They can take their visor elsewhere for all I care. Although it’s always fun kicking their ass.
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My Hatred began in basketball with...
Derek Grimm and Jason Sutherland…punks
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Jan 10, 2009 1:15 PM CST
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K-State also plays like
I want KU to play on defense.
That’s an honest statement, how sad is that?
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NU up early 7-0 on MU
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I think I can hear Self yelling at his players: Even in Lawrence.
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He just threw a chair through my window...
In Denver
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Jan 10, 2009 1:09 PM CST
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The high altitude
let it travel farther though. It was aimed at your front yard.
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Wow.
I just flipped over to ESPN for the end of Nova-Ville.
Wow. Just, wow. After a couple of back-and-forth possessions, Louisville made a shot with 8 seconds left to take the lead, 61-60. Villanova gets a breakaway on the in-bounds play, though, and gets fouled with 4.7. The guy misses both free throws, but the rebound is knocked out of bounds by Louisville. Villanova then gets the ball under the basket, and gets a layup. But he misses. Then they get a put-back opportunity; but he misses that, too.
Louisvlle wins.
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so what is an acceptable margin for everyone...
I say get it within 8 or so by the end and I’ll feel good…that wasn’t a good start though
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Jan 10, 2009 1:19 PM CST
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I'll take 15
as acceptable. Within 10 at some point.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:20 PM CST
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i';l; be happy if they score 50 points
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uh oh...a pic...
and maybe 8 is a little too optimistic on my part
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Jan 10, 2009 1:21 PM CST
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And, 4 on Markief.
Yikes. Dude just can’t stay out of foul trouble.
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he's going to develop a bad reputation...and as a freshman it's hard to shake those things.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 1:22 PM CST
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He's going to get to the point
where Self should just let him foul out in the first 5 minutes.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:24 PM CST
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nice start...of course we had a good start in the first half too
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I didn't realize Wake was #4
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Jan 10, 2009 1:24 PM CST
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Hell
I didn’t realize Pitt was #1 until about Thursday.
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dejuan blair
might be the biggest 6’7’’ player i’ve ever seen
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Jan 10, 2009 1:30 PM CST
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he's a beast
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Jan 10, 2009 1:30 PM CST
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Just haven't lost yet. No idea how good they are.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:25 PM CST
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the joys of the non-conference season
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Jan 10, 2009 1:26 PM CST
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No, they are quite good.
They beat Baylor in the 76 Classic out here in Anaheim, and beat BYU in Provo. BYU had like a 56 game home-court winning streak, too.
Probably not #4 in the country good, but they take on North Carolina tomorrow night. Should be a fantastic game.
And with it being in Winston-Salem, I’ll take the Demon Deacons.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:28 PM CST
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good to know...
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Jan 10, 2009 1:33 PM CST
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I like it.
So far, we’ve played pretty well. They’re still getting some open shots, but they are (finally) not knocking them down and we are doing a lot better at blocking out. On offense, it’s the Sherron show, but I can’t say I mind it. We haven’t got much of anything done all day, so we might as well try him out.
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I can handle it so far...
too bad Travis couldn’t flush that one..
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Jan 10, 2009 1:26 PM CST
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So much for that outstanding start.
Although Brady just hit a three.
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one positive to take so far...
is that Sherron has been a true leader… as bad as they’ve played and as dismal as it’s looked, his body language and just his general demeanor has been very upbeat and determined
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OT: but Sounds like we are going to find out the KU defensive line coach today...
and it sounds like it’s going to be a good hire
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just as in the 1st half the TV timeout spells doom
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Please!!! get it to single digits...that would be a victory in itself
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Sherron is fired up...
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Come on, Sherron.
It’s fine to drive, but you had Tyrel wide, wide open. Come on.
It’s fine to try and take everything on your back, I suppose, but don’t do it all on yourself. Still trust your teammates.
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+1
Collins at his best when he can penetrate and kick it out to Reed or Morningstar for open shots.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:37 PM CST
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I agree but...
I think there is some responsibility on Reed and Morningstars part to position themselves for the shot…there have been a lot of opportunities today absolutely…but they also do a fair amount of standing around.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:39 PM CST
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Agree with that Denver. Morningstar & Reed have not really shown up.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:40 PM CST
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They really struggle offensively
because they can’t create off the dribble. As we are seeing this game.
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well...I am becoming less hopeful of single digits...
it’s taking a ton of energy to chip away at this thing and they keep hitting shots that are really demoralizing..
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OK, that's 7 fouls on Michigan State.
And they’re still fouling at a ridiculous pace. If we make our free throws, we could get it close.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 1:38 PM CST
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and that's the easiest way
to get back in a game.
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score points while the clock is stopped...i'll take it.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:40 PM CST
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Got to hit those...
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What?
Was that really a foul? I mean, seriously?
HIghtower is terrible. We’ve gotten some calls too, but seriously. It’s going to turn in to a free throw shooting contest at about the 10-minute mark.
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it just ain't happenin today, too young, too soft and not ready for this type of challenge yet.
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Agreed.
We just aren’t ready yet for this kind of physical, rough-and-tumble team.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:46 PM CST
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I guess that's life in the one and done NCAA...
if you win a championship, you’ve assembled enough NBA ready talent to do so and you can expect an exodus. Look at us, also Florida and OSU the year before…you win, guys are successful and they move on.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:47 PM CST
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fouled out?? good god
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Jan 10, 2009 1:44 PM CST
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Wow! Mario already fouled ? In what, about 6 minutes of playing time?
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Jan 10, 2009 1:45 PM CST
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He must be boys with
Markieff. Trying to attract Self’s attention and take it away from Markieff.
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Oh holy sh**
that was an awful foul call on Morris under the basket by Hightower.
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If this was a close game
I would have been using words that make Bobby Knight blush.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:55 PM CST
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Marcus just got...
Hightowered!!
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Clark Kellogg has been pretty good today on the broadcast today.
Too bad Fox couldn’t find anybody decent for the bowl games. That was awful listening to those clowns in the biggest games of the year.
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You mean the 4 hour Tebowner
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 1:54 PM CST
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+1 on that. The ass kissing was hideous.
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Very similar to
Kornheiser on Favre this year on MNF.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:56 PM CST
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I don't recall the announcer's name but I heard...
he is still sitting in the stadium…Talking about Tebow’s greatness…he just can’t stop, some sort of exorcism might be needed.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:57 PM CST
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Pretty sad. Tebow seems like a good guy, but;
The coronation of the next Pope kind off stuff really gets sickening.
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Jan 10, 2009 1:59 PM CST
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yeah it's doing him more harm than good...
and it’s shocking that he and the announcers can’t figure it out…the act has gotten pretty old.
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Jan 10, 2009 2:00 PM CST
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I do credit Self
for scheduling this game and Tennessee.
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absolutely...just wish we had the team we had last year...would have been a lot of fun today...
we get MSU at home next year don’t we?
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This game sucks.
Not even because of the score, just because of the incredible propensity of fouls.
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Thank everyone's favorite ref...Ed Hightower
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Jan 10, 2009 2:01 PM CST
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Oh well. A national championship helps soothe the pain.
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makes this pill...very easy to swallow...
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Jan 10, 2009 2:02 PM CST
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One thing I think we as Kansas fans are fortunate in is that...
with our recent success in both Basketball and Football and the clear abilities of our coaches, we have learned to trust in the process and the programs ability to put us in a position to be successful. Even when that means taking a step back to move forward sometimes.
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Jan 10, 2009 2:03 PM CST
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And 1.
Yikes. Tyrel is 0-2 from the FT line today. He is usually money, money, money.
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Single Digits???? Please!!!
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either way,
after today KU will still be on a very manageable road to 20 wins and likely a top-8 seed in the tourney. for a rebuilding year, that’s nothing to frown upon
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No I'll take it...
but I hope we aren’t in that 8 seed range…not interested in a 1 seed 2nd round.
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i meant they'll probably be seeded in the top 8 seeds, like 6, 7 or 8
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yeah I know...
and I just mean I would prefer a 6 or 7…for the sake of avoiding a #1
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and I could concievably get my 8 point deficit...
that would be a respectable rally
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Big 12 update...
K-State giving OU a game only down 3 15 to go in the 2nd half…
NU up 36 to 19 on Misery
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good
Hate Mizzou and like Doc Sadler.
Update: KSU down 7 now
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I agree...
not sure what it is about him but I’ve always like Doc…
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Jan 10, 2009 2:11 PM CST
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Same here.
Not really sure why, but I have always loved the Doc. Think he is going to be a really good coach.
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Yeah.
I would much rather Nebraska win these kind of games against Mizzou.
I just want to root for Mizzou against, like, OU and Texas and Baylor. I want a shot to win the Big 12 this year, and we will need some help if we’re going to do anything.
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This game isn't quite over yet.
Tyrel Reed has had a really good second half; I bet he is our third leading scorer after the two big names (Cole and Sherron).
If we get a stop-or-two and can make a shot-or-two on the other side of the floor, we are right back in it.
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Way to keep battling...
never know what can happen at this point, but I’m pretty pumped at the fight some of these guys are showing…
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In other news, UMASS just got a big win.
Beat Dayton, who was previously 14-1.
Makes our loss look just a little bit better.
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all our losses have looked better after the fact accept Arizona...
they fell of a little bit
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should have been except
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I hate it when I do that.
I know someone will read it and automatically think I’m a moron. I may be a moron, but I try to make people work hard to figure that out.
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regardless, my jaw is still on the floor
by Danny Satan on
Jan 10, 2009 2:15 PM CST
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well yeah....
that was a pretty pathetic showing
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 2:16 PM CST
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not to mention it was basically a home game
by Danny Satan on
Jan 10, 2009 2:17 PM CST
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we should never lose in KC...
unless it’s deep in the tourney or deep in the Big 12 tourney…that’s a home game no questions asked.
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 2:17 PM CST
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damn...that could have been HUGE
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by Denverjhawk on
Jan 10, 2009 2:15 PM CST
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Crap.
The Sherron three was a fine idea. That would have gotten it down to six, and would have been gigantic. Instead, the Spartans get a frickin’ three.
Ah, well, we still aren’t out of it.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 2:17 PM CST
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And another terrible call.
This time, it goes for us though, so whatever.
by rockchalk on
Jan 10, 2009 2:20 PM CST
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