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Open Game Thread :: Game #15 :: Kansas 11-3 (0-0) @ #8 Michigan State 12-2 (3-0)

Kansas Jayhawks @ Michigan St. Spartans


Before we get to the Race for 4,000, here is a quickie preview of what the Spartans do well and don't do well, just to give a ballpark as to what to watch out for.

What Michigan State Does Well

  • Adjusted Offensive Efficiency -- 15th in the country
  • Offensive Rebounding -- 14th
  • Three-Point Percentage -- 12th
  • Defensive Rebounding -- 26th
  • Assists/Field Goals Made -- 16th
What Michigan State Doesn't Do Well
  • Forcing Turnovers -- 219th
  • Defending the Three -- 172nd
  • Drawing Free Throws -- 249th
  • Fouling -- 273rd
For those stats, and any others, check out Michigan State's KenPom page.

In simple terms, Michigan State is one of the best teams in the country. They beat Texas in Houston, they crushed Oklahoma State. They lost early on to Maryland in embarrassing fashion, but that was without Goran Suton, and generally in different circumstances. And since then, they only lost, albeit by a substantial margin (98-63), to National Champion favorite North Carolina. They should beat us, and there is a distinct possibility it won't be all that close. However, if the Morris twins play well enough on Raymar, we've got a shot.

I don't think it will be enough, though. Cole will have a monster day, but Sherron will struggle and our freshmen, while handling it better than the game down in Arizona, will still struggle on the road in a hostile environment.

Michigan State 81 Kansas 69

The Race to 4,000 begins now...

 

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of many comments. Getting ready to fix my lunch and get settled in for the game.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 11:08 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll be around very, very soon...just wrapping up all the RCT Readers choice posts for next week...

the drive for 4000 is alive

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 11:21 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lets see

Drawing Free Throws- I bet we help them in that regard.
Forcing Turnovers- Same.

If they truly aren’t good at those two aspects, it should help us.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 11:22 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sherron...

should be able to take pretty good care of the ball…

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 11:23 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He should.

Our passing is what worries me. We saw it on inbounds plays last week.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 11:31 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for sure...

I guess I don’t know how aggressive MSU is with pressure normally.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 11:32 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm here.

Today is a wondrous day. Two NFL Playoff Games and, for most conferences, the first day of conference play. Including the Big 12.

Plenty of games on the television, plenty of awesome games, plenty of action.

And a huge, gigantic game for our Kansas Jayhawks. Let’s hope we show up.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 11:26 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Saw Missouri v. Nebraska was on ESPN2 today...

also I think it was Warden that posted ESPN Full court free preview this week includes KU vs. KSU

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 11:27 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

after I posted that, I noticed that my cable provider doesn’t offer the package at all. So, I don’t even get the free preview.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 11:32 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DirecTV only I assume

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 11:33 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So what's everybody think of the Kevin Young news??

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 11:30 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huge get.

Like most people are saying, I think this was a much different situation than the traditional recruit stringing a school along. He got caught up in some rivalry hype the day after Thanksgiving and made a decision. As long as he was all cool about it with Kansas and everything, we’re all good.

And moving on to the floor; awesome stuff. He is probably the best DE recruit we’re bringing in, and could conceivably play this year, I would assume. Especially considering he is an early High School grad, and will be on campus in a week-or-two.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 11:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

showed a lot of balls on his part to...

make that call to Husker coaches the day before he was supposed to move in…I know the recruitment and fans have been ugly at times, but I’m excited to have him on campus and get an early start…

I guess he’s been training w/former Chief and Husker Will Shields in KC to help his development

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 11:38 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Warden...you need a pic...

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 11:35 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ha...I'm sure it has far more pressing things...

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 11:39 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know why but...

the Big East annoys me.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 11:48 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They are ridiculous this year.

I didn’t know a conference could be so amazing.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 11:51 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still don't like em'

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 11:53 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My Big 12 Picks

OU over KSU
Baylor over Tech
NU over MU
Texas over ISU
A&M over OSU

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 11:58 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree on all of them.

EXCEPT:

MU over NU
OSU over A&M at home.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 11:59 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I probably picked more w/my heart than my head...

I want MU to lose…and Mark Turgeon to win…I’ll stick w/the picks though.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jayhawks on the front page of ESPN.com's college bball page..."It's That Time" is the headline

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 11:59 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK, almost gametime...

Anyone else here besides me, Denver and Warden?

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 11:59 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where's Labadabba...Hunter, 2.1,...

Saturday games tend to lend themselves to sports bar watching so we might be down a few today.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

today just might not be the day...

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I suppose.

Hope we can just get everyone together for some big conference game.

You’re probably right, though, it will probably have to be a weekday game.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love CBS College Bball in HD...

really an improvement over the local feed

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:01 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Already clear...

that this is going to be a more hostile crowd than Arizona as many of us predicted.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:02 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

East Lansing vs. Tucson

I’d be more hostile in East Lansing, too.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So True...especially in January

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, I forgot to mention.

KenPom “predicts” Michigan State to win, 75-72. He also gives the Spartans a 62% chance to win (giving us a 38% chance to win, obviously.)

Not bad, I suppose. Thought it would be worse. KenPom’s stats love us though, they always seem to.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:04 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we keep it to that score...

that means we’ve got a shot at the end and i’ll take it

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm here.

Just kinda fuzzy after a late night. May have to come off the bench later. Hopefully the Hawks are more awake than I am.

by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2009 12:05 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

glad you could make it...fuzzy or not

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We've got to be stronger on the boards...

great D by Cole and then they get another crack at it.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:07 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's one on Markieff.

Our D has played great so far, but we can’t let Kieff get stupid fouls like that.

Seriously, though, we keep playing like this and we should be fine.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:07 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so far so good

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Inbounds??

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:09 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, looks like I was wrong.

Brady IS matched up on Raymar. If I were them, I’d just post him up, but oh well. I suppose Cole would then come over and hel pout.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:10 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With Roe and Suton in Brady will have to

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And Brady misses the dunk

after the whistle. Brady, you just can’t do that.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:11 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice job by Markieff...

but then he get’s another cheap foul

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:12 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I suppose.

And after a great box-out on the defensive end and putback on the offensive end, he picks up his second foul already. Crap.

OK, Marcus, let’s go. Pick up your brother.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:13 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

went w/Little instead...

interesting

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep..

they have to make the decision after today, so they said they’d give it a go and see what he can do.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can we please learn to rebound

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:13 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Set your feet and go up strong Cole...

your too damn big to try and finesse that crap

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:16 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well we all said they had to start strong...

it hasn’t been the best but they’ve made it to the first timeout w/a lead so that would be a good start in my book.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:16 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nothing new there

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have to say, I don't want to redshirt Little.

He is a really good guy on the boards; does a great job of boxing out.

And his offense should come around, eventually.

I’m fine with the start so far. We aren’t blowing their socks off or anything, but we are going back-and-forth with them, and are sticking with ‘em. We’ve done a pretty good job on Raymar. Lucas is amazing, though. Oh my goodness.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would agree...

redshirts don’t do a lot of good in Basketball, especially in our program where sometimes you just can’t get enough scholarships for the guys you want.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm kind of nervous about giving up a run soon...

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:19 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn it

Sherron. Reed was wide open.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:20 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

small lineup out there

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:20 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

crappy possession

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:20 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

6 offensive rebounds already for MSU..

not going to win if that continues.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:21 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn it.

My tv feed is all sorts of screwed up. Two Saturdays in a freaking row. It’s 2009, get it figured out.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:22 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We give up too many 2nd chance opportunities...

and we get hardly any, rebounding is a big problem with this group and I’m sure it drives Bill Self up the wall.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:23 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too much

turning to watch the shot and getting sucked in underneath the basket. The young guys should improve as the season goes. In HS, these guys never had to block out because they could just out jump everyone.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:25 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yikes.

They are clearly the better team, thus far.

And a good offensive rebounding team combined with our lack of defensive rebounding is going to be disastrous all day.

I’m not looking forward to it.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:24 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But wait, I am.

Hopefully, Marcus can figure stuff out, and learn how to box-out sometime today. If we box-out, and make shots, we’re good. They play tough, physical defense, but it isn’t anything we can’t handle.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uuuugggghhh...

this is going to be stressful

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:25 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cole looks pretty average so far today...

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:28 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least offensively

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed.

I don’t think he’s a big fan of a lot of contact. He struggled against Zona, too, where Jordan Hill was physical with him.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pretty amazing considering...

he had to practice w/Jackson, Kaun and Arthur all last year…he should be comfortable with contact at this point.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on Sherron

that was an awful pass. Then, you hurt yourself.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:29 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Collins needs to get under control...

then maybe he won’t ram his nose into people

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:29 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

offense just looks bad since right before the first TV

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:31 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know he was fouled

but Cole has to make that shot on the black. Use the backboard or dunk the ball.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:33 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Again...great position by Cole...

drew the contact, but just can’t finish…

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:33 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and Cole's yip...

earns him 1 more crack to make a free throw

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:34 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dangerous territory right now.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:37 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yikes.

they are knocking down all of their shots, and we can’t get an open one to even take. Michigan State is easily the best defensive team we’ve played all year.

Still, we are playing absolutely terrible, and yet we are still only down 8. We’re not out of this one yet.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:38 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our offense

has been brutal. Cole’s had some decent shots, but he’s missed them. I’m not sure we’ve had a decent look in the last 10 minutes.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not out of it...

but trending toward everything we couldn’t do and still expect to win

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Guess we'll see what....

our team is made of

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shocking

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is just absolutely NO...

offense, no one wants to make a play, a lot of standing and waiting and then a whole lot of nothing…Kleinman Sighting

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:42 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Self is not happy about something...

that’s what a Kleinman appearance means

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Morris boys

have to be working their way into the doghouse.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They actually own a fairly extensive Time-share...

at the doghouse.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Yes Finally"

the announcer stole my words

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:44 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Geez.

How many turnovers do we have?

This is terrible.

Appleton and Quintrell in, now.

Self is quite pissed off, right now.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:46 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Turnovers

do not surprise me with this group.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd like to see 2 things...

first Sherron stop forcing things…

second…manage to get this to around 8 by halftime…

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:46 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WTF!!!

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:47 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is unbearable

i think we’re all seeing just how terrible a defensive team tennessee was

by Danny Satan on Jan 10, 2009 12:47 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh my god!!!!

it’s Danny Satan…we wondered if you would come back

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in all seriousness...glad to have ya...

your welcome anytime…we weren’t sure if you were in fact a KU fan or not after your last appearance

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what??...you mean we have offense... :D

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yikes.

Walton usually pretty much sucks on offense, and yet he is torching us.

And we can’t make three straight shots at a layup.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:47 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did anyone catch what Self said there..

the ref was talking about his injury…and Self said “just put his ass in a chair at half court”

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:51 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah.

Self is incredibly pissed off right now. I don’t think he is in the mood to laugh about a ref’s injury. He sounded almost serious, or like angry at the ref for getting hurt.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah I would agree...

not sure he was joking too much with that one.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 12:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK, here is our chance to go on a little mini-run.

They are starting to actually miss shots. Nice fast-break bucket by Sherron, now we just need to make some shots on our end.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:56 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's been much

harder than it should be today.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yikes.

Sherron is forcing something just about every time down.

And Tyshawn looks lost.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:00 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't even know what to say...

I feel like we’ve really played ourselves out of this one so far, more than MSU beating us this bad…

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:00 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Down 19 now

that’s what happens when you don’t score.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the good news is...

by the time these guys career are all said and done…Self will either make them tough…or make them quit

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seeing Izzo

“wired for sound” makes me wonder what percentage of conversation they can use. I know Izzo is pretty intense, but don’t know how colorful his language is.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:00 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can tell you this much...

Self could never be wired for sound…he has mastered the art of stringing together words that you didn’t know were bad…but are

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I'd imagine

he will use that ability at halftime.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and as you can tell

this game has already driven me to alcohol

by Danny Satan on Jan 10, 2009 1:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess we should have all anticipated a year like this...

but it doesn’t make it any easier…drinking however does…

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow.

Michigan State has made just about every single shot, and we can’t buy a bucket.

Seriously, though, what is the upside the rest of the game? Just try to get it close?

We aren’t handling the tight defense very well. I don’t think it is the crowd; the Zona crowd was louder, and I’ve been terribly unimpressed with the Izzone, or whatever it’s called.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:04 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The goal needs to be...

to show some intestinal fortitude…this team needs to be tougher mentally and physically and it needs to start in the 2nd half. If they can do that and come away feeling good about the effort then maybe there is a positive to take into conference play. If we get run out of the building…I’m a little worried about nearly any road game from here on out.

Big 12 fans are going to be foaming at the mouth this year at an opportunity to “beat Kansas.” This team needs to show it has some fight in them on the road.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well put

i want the morris bros to start thrashing people too

by Danny Satan on Jan 10, 2009 1:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

unfortunately Markieff doesn't thrash...

he pokes and picks up cheap fouls…he needs Old Spice Swagger like LL Cool J

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just turned to KSU/OU

and Bramlage sounds pretty loud. No matter your feelings for K-State, them being good is a great thing for the Big 12 and KU.

(as long as they don’t end up on probation)

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:04 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1.

Agree entirely. Maybe I’m a bad person for this, but I kind of what the North teams to do well this year. And this includes Kansas State and Mizzou.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

K-State I can handle...

Mizzou…sorry, I would be ok if they fell off the earth

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed on Mizzou.

I’ve never liked them and Chase Daniel just made it worse. They can take their visor elsewhere for all I care. Although it’s always fun kicking their ass.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My Hatred began in basketball with...

Derek Grimm and Jason Sutherland…punks

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

K-State also plays like

I want KU to play on defense.

That’s an honest statement, how sad is that?

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NU up early 7-0 on MU

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:08 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He just threw a chair through my window...

In Denver

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The high altitude

let it travel farther though. It was aimed at your front yard.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow.

I just flipped over to ESPN for the end of Nova-Ville.

Wow. Just, wow. After a couple of back-and-forth possessions, Louisville made a shot with 8 seconds left to take the lead, 61-60. Villanova gets a breakaway on the in-bounds play, though, and gets fouled with 4.7. The guy misses both free throws, but the rebound is knocked out of bounds by Louisville. Villanova then gets the ball under the basket, and gets a layup. But he misses. Then they get a put-back opportunity; but he misses that, too.

Louisvlle wins.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:15 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so what is an acceptable margin for everyone...

I say get it within 8 or so by the end and I’ll feel good…that wasn’t a good start though

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:19 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take 15

as acceptable. Within 10 at some point.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uh oh...a pic...

and maybe 8 is a little too optimistic on my part

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

going to have to find something else. It’s tough to find a decent one to work when they are this small.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And, 4 on Markief.

Yikes. Dude just can’t stay out of foul trouble.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:21 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's going to develop a bad reputation...and as a freshman it's hard to shake those things.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's going to get to the point

where Self should just let him foul out in the first 5 minutes.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice start...of course we had a good start in the first half too

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't realize Wake was #4

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hell

I didn’t realize Pitt was #1 until about Thursday.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:25 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dejuan blair

might be the biggest 6’7’’ player i’ve ever seen

by Danny Satan on Jan 10, 2009 1:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's a beast

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the joys of the non-conference season

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, they are quite good.

They beat Baylor in the 76 Classic out here in Anaheim, and beat BYU in Provo. BYU had like a 56 game home-court winning streak, too.

Probably not #4 in the country good, but they take on North Carolina tomorrow night. Should be a fantastic game.

And with it being in Winston-Salem, I’ll take the Demon Deacons.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good to know...

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like it.

So far, we’ve played pretty well. They’re still getting some open shots, but they are (finally) not knocking them down and we are doing a lot better at blocking out. On offense, it’s the Sherron show, but I can’t say I mind it. We haven’t got much of anything done all day, so we might as well try him out.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:25 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can handle it so far...

too bad Travis couldn’t flush that one..

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

one positive to take so far...

is that Sherron has been a true leader… as bad as they’ve played and as dismal as it’s looked, his body language and just his general demeanor has been very upbeat and determined

by Danny Satan on Jan 10, 2009 1:27 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1.

Early on, that wasn’t always there. He has developed plenty of trust in his teammates, though, which is nice. Definitely a good sign for the rest of the season.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OT: but Sounds like we are going to find out the KU defensive line coach today...

and it sounds like it’s going to be a good hire

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:28 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just as in the 1st half the TV timeout spells doom

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:31 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Please!!! get it to single digits...that would be a victory in itself

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sherron is fired up...

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:34 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on, Sherron.

It’s fine to drive, but you had Tyrel wide, wide open. Come on.

It’s fine to try and take everything on your back, I suppose, but don’t do it all on yourself. Still trust your teammates.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:35 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Collins at his best when he can penetrate and kick it out to Reed or Morningstar for open shots.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree but...

I think there is some responsibility on Reed and Morningstars part to position themselves for the shot…there have been a lot of opportunities today absolutely…but they also do a fair amount of standing around.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well...I am becoming less hopeful of single digits...

it’s taking a ton of energy to chip away at this thing and they keep hitting shots that are really demoralizing..

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:37 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK, that's 7 fouls on Michigan State.

And they’re still fouling at a ridiculous pace. If we make our free throws, we could get it close.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:38 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

score points while the clock is stopped...i'll take it.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Got to hit those...

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:42 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What?

Was that really a foul? I mean, seriously?

HIghtower is terrible. We’ve gotten some calls too, but seriously. It’s going to turn in to a free throw shooting contest at about the 10-minute mark.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:43 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it just ain't happenin today, too young, too soft and not ready for this type of challenge yet.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:43 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed.

We just aren’t ready yet for this kind of physical, rough-and-tumble team.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess that's life in the one and done NCAA...

if you win a championship, you’ve assembled enough NBA ready talent to do so and you can expect an exodus. Look at us, also Florida and OSU the year before…you win, guys are successful and they move on.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fouled out?? good god

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:44 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He must be boys with

Markieff. Trying to attract Self’s attention and take it away from Markieff.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:46 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh holy sh**

that was an awful foul call on Morris under the basket by Hightower.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:51 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If this was a close game

I would have been using words that make Bobby Knight blush.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marcus just got...

Hightowered!!

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:51 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clark Kellogg has been pretty good today on the broadcast today.

Too bad Fox couldn’t find anybody decent for the bowl games. That was awful listening to those clowns in the biggest games of the year.

by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2009 1:54 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You mean the 4 hour Tebowner

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very similar to

Kornheiser on Favre this year on MNF.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't recall the announcer's name but I heard...

he is still sitting in the stadium…Talking about Tebow’s greatness…he just can’t stop, some sort of exorcism might be needed.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pretty sad. Tebow seems like a good guy, but;

The coronation of the next Pope kind off stuff really gets sickening.

by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2009 1:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah it's doing him more harm than good...

and it’s shocking that he and the announcers can’t figure it out…the act has gotten pretty old.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I do credit Self

for scheduling this game and Tennessee.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:54 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

absolutely...just wish we had the team we had last year...would have been a lot of fun today...

we get MSU at home next year don’t we?

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 1:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This game sucks.

Not even because of the score, just because of the incredible propensity of fouls.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:00 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank everyone's favorite ref...Ed Hightower

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

makes this pill...very easy to swallow...

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One thing I think we as Kansas fans are fortunate in is that...

with our recent success in both Basketball and Football and the clear abilities of our coaches, we have learned to trust in the process and the programs ability to put us in a position to be successful. Even when that means taking a step back to move forward sometimes.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

KU has 2 great coaches.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 2:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And 1.

Yikes. Tyrel is 0-2 from the FT line today. He is usually money, money, money.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:04 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Single Digits???? Please!!!

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

either way,

after today KU will still be on a very manageable road to 20 wins and likely a top-8 seed in the tourney. for a rebuilding year, that’s nothing to frown upon

by Danny Satan on Jan 10, 2009 2:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No I'll take it...

but I hope we aren’t in that 8 seed range…not interested in a 1 seed 2nd round.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah I know...

and I just mean I would prefer a 6 or 7…for the sake of avoiding a #1

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and I could concievably get my 8 point deficit...

that would be a respectable rally

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Big 12 update...

K-State giving OU a game only down 3 15 to go in the 2nd half…

NU up 36 to 19 on Misery

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:09 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good

Hate Mizzou and like Doc Sadler.

Update: KSU down 7 now

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 2:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree...

not sure what it is about him but I’ve always like Doc…

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same here.

Not really sure why, but I have always loved the Doc. Think he is going to be a really good coach.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah.

I would much rather Nebraska win these kind of games against Mizzou.

I just want to root for Mizzou against, like, OU and Texas and Baylor. I want a shot to win the Big 12 this year, and we will need some help if we’re going to do anything.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This game isn't quite over yet.

Tyrel Reed has had a really good second half; I bet he is our third leading scorer after the two big names (Cole and Sherron).

If we get a stop-or-two and can make a shot-or-two on the other side of the floor, we are right back in it.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:10 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1.

But, whatever. It is Hightower, after all.

And I think he feels the need to call twice as many fouls, because there are only two refs out there.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Way to keep battling...

never know what can happen at this point, but I’m pretty pumped at the fight some of these guys are showing…

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:12 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In other news, UMASS just got a big win.

Beat Dayton, who was previously 14-1.

Makes our loss look just a little bit better.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:14 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

all our losses have looked better after the fact accept Arizona...

they fell of a little bit

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

should have been except

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate it when I do that.

I know someone will read it and automatically think I’m a moron. I may be a moron, but I try to make people work hard to figure that out.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 2:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well yeah....

that was a pretty pathetic showing

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we should never lose in KC...

unless it’s deep in the tourney or deep in the Big 12 tourney…that’s a home game no questions asked.

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

damn...that could have been HUGE

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by Denverjhawk on Jan 10, 2009 2:15 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crap.

The Sherron three was a fine idea. That would have gotten it down to six, and would have been gigantic. Instead, the Spartans get a frickin’ three.

Ah, well, we still aren’t out of it.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:17 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Geez.

Really, Hightower?

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs