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Open Game Thread :: Game #15 :: Kansas 11-3 (0-0) @ #8 Michigan State 12-2 (3-0)

Kansas Jayhawks at Michigan St. Spartans, Jan 10, 2009 12:00 PM CST


Before we get to the Race for 4,000, here is a quickie preview of what the Spartans do well and don't do well, just to give a ballpark as to what to watch out for.

What Michigan State Does Well

  • Adjusted Offensive Efficiency -- 15th in the country
  • Offensive Rebounding -- 14th
  • Three-Point Percentage -- 12th
  • Defensive Rebounding -- 26th
  • Assists/Field Goals Made -- 16th
What Michigan State Doesn't Do Well
  • Forcing Turnovers -- 219th
  • Defending the Three -- 172nd
  • Drawing Free Throws -- 249th
  • Fouling -- 273rd
For those stats, and any others, check out Michigan State's KenPom page.

In simple terms, Michigan State is one of the best teams in the country. They beat Texas in Houston, they crushed Oklahoma State. They lost early on to Maryland in embarrassing fashion, but that was without Goran Suton, and generally in different circumstances. And since then, they only lost, albeit by a substantial margin (98-63), to National Champion favorite North Carolina. They should beat us, and there is a distinct possibility it won't be all that close. However, if the Morris twins play well enough on Raymar, we've got a shot.

I don't think it will be enough, though. Cole will have a monster day, but Sherron will struggle and our freshmen, while handling it better than the game down in Arizona, will still struggle on the road in a hostile environment.

Michigan State 81 Kansas 69

The Race to 4,000 begins now...

 

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of many comments. Getting ready to fix my lunch and get settled in for the game.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 11:08 AM CST reply actions  

I'll be around very, very soon...just wrapping up all the RCT Readers choice posts for next week...

the drive for 4000 is alive

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 11:21 AM CST reply actions  

Lets see

Drawing Free Throws- I bet we help them in that regard.
Forcing Turnovers- Same.

If they truly aren’t good at those two aspects, it should help us.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 11:22 AM CST reply actions  

Sherron...

should be able to take pretty good care of the ball…

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

He should.

Our passing is what worries me. We saw it on inbounds plays last week.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

for sure...

I guess I don’t know how aggressive MSU is with pressure normally.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm here.

Today is a wondrous day. Two NFL Playoff Games and, for most conferences, the first day of conference play. Including the Big 12.

Plenty of games on the television, plenty of awesome games, plenty of action.

And a huge, gigantic game for our Kansas Jayhawks. Let’s hope we show up.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 11:26 AM CST reply actions  

Saw Missouri v. Nebraska was on ESPN2 today...

also I think it was Warden that posted ESPN Full court free preview this week includes KU vs. KSU

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

after I posted that, I noticed that my cable provider doesn’t offer the package at all. So, I don’t even get the free preview.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

DirecTV only I assume

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

So what's everybody think of the Kevin Young news??

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 11:30 AM CST reply actions  

Huge get.

Like most people are saying, I think this was a much different situation than the traditional recruit stringing a school along. He got caught up in some rivalry hype the day after Thanksgiving and made a decision. As long as he was all cool about it with Kansas and everything, we’re all good.

And moving on to the floor; awesome stuff. He is probably the best DE recruit we’re bringing in, and could conceivably play this year, I would assume. Especially considering he is an early High School grad, and will be on campus in a week-or-two.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

showed a lot of balls on his part to...

make that call to Husker coaches the day before he was supposed to move in…I know the recruitment and fans have been ugly at times, but I’m excited to have him on campus and get an early start…

I guess he’s been training w/former Chief and Husker Will Shields in KC to help his development

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Warden...you need a pic...

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 11:35 AM CST reply actions  

ha...I'm sure it has far more pressing things...

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know why but...

the Big East annoys me.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

They are ridiculous this year.

I didn’t know a conference could be so amazing.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I still don't like em'

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

My Big 12 Picks

OU over KSU
Baylor over Tech
NU over MU
Texas over ISU
A&M over OSU

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 11:58 AM CST reply actions  

I agree on all of them.

EXCEPT:

MU over NU
OSU over A&M at home.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I probably picked more w/my heart than my head...

I want MU to lose…and Mark Turgeon to win…I’ll stick w/the picks though.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Jayhawks on the front page of ESPN.com's college bball page..."It's That Time" is the headline

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 11:59 AM CST reply actions  

OK, almost gametime...

Anyone else here besides me, Denver and Warden?

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 11:59 AM CST reply actions  

where's Labadabba...Hunter, 2.1,...

Saturday games tend to lend themselves to sports bar watching so we might be down a few today.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

today just might not be the day...

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I suppose.

Hope we can just get everyone together for some big conference game.

You’re probably right, though, it will probably have to be a weekday game.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I love CBS College Bball in HD...

really an improvement over the local feed

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:01 PM CST reply actions  

Already clear...

that this is going to be a more hostile crowd than Arizona as many of us predicted.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:02 PM CST reply actions  

East Lansing vs. Tucson

I’d be more hostile in East Lansing, too.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

So True...especially in January

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I forgot to mention.

KenPom “predicts” Michigan State to win, 75-72. He also gives the Spartans a 62% chance to win (giving us a 38% chance to win, obviously.)

Not bad, I suppose. Thought it would be worse. KenPom’s stats love us though, they always seem to.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:04 PM CST reply actions  

If we keep it to that score...

that means we’ve got a shot at the end and i’ll take it

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm here.

Just kinda fuzzy after a late night. May have to come off the bench later. Hopefully the Hawks are more awake than I am.

by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2009 12:05 PM CST reply actions  

glad you could make it...fuzzy or not

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

We've got to be stronger on the boards...

great D by Cole and then they get another crack at it.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:07 PM CST reply actions  

That's one on Markieff.

Our D has played great so far, but we can’t let Kieff get stupid fouls like that.

Seriously, though, we keep playing like this and we should be fine.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:07 PM CST reply actions  

so far so good

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Inbounds??

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:09 PM CST reply actions  

Well, looks like I was wrong.

Brady IS matched up on Raymar. If I were them, I’d just post him up, but oh well. I suppose Cole would then come over and hel pout.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:10 PM CST reply actions  

With Roe and Suton in Brady will have to

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

And Brady misses the dunk

after the whistle. Brady, you just can’t do that.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:11 PM CST reply actions  

Nice job by Markieff...

but then he get’s another cheap foul

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:12 PM CST reply actions  

I suppose.

And after a great box-out on the defensive end and putback on the offensive end, he picks up his second foul already. Crap.

OK, Marcus, let’s go. Pick up your brother.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:13 PM CST reply actions  

went w/Little instead...

interesting

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

yep..

they have to make the decision after today, so they said they’d give it a go and see what he can do.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Can we please learn to rebound

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:13 PM CST reply actions  

Set your feet and go up strong Cole...

your too damn big to try and finesse that crap

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

Well we all said they had to start strong...

it hasn’t been the best but they’ve made it to the first timeout w/a lead so that would be a good start in my book.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

nothing new there

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I have to say, I don't want to redshirt Little.

He is a really good guy on the boards; does a great job of boxing out.

And his offense should come around, eventually.

I’m fine with the start so far. We aren’t blowing their socks off or anything, but we are going back-and-forth with them, and are sticking with ‘em. We’ve done a pretty good job on Raymar. Lucas is amazing, though. Oh my goodness.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:18 PM CST reply actions  

I would agree...

redshirts don’t do a lot of good in Basketball, especially in our program where sometimes you just can’t get enough scholarships for the guys you want.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm kind of nervous about giving up a run soon...

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:19 PM CST reply actions  

Damn it

Sherron. Reed was wide open.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:20 PM CST reply actions  

small lineup out there

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:20 PM CST reply actions  

crappy possession

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:20 PM CST reply actions  

6 offensive rebounds already for MSU..

not going to win if that continues.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:21 PM CST reply actions  

Damn it.

My tv feed is all sorts of screwed up. Two Saturdays in a freaking row. It’s 2009, get it figured out.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:22 PM CST reply actions  

We give up too many 2nd chance opportunities...

and we get hardly any, rebounding is a big problem with this group and I’m sure it drives Bill Self up the wall.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:23 PM CST reply actions  

Too much

turning to watch the shot and getting sucked in underneath the basket. The young guys should improve as the season goes. In HS, these guys never had to block out because they could just out jump everyone.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Yikes.

They are clearly the better team, thus far.

And a good offensive rebounding team combined with our lack of defensive rebounding is going to be disastrous all day.

I’m not looking forward to it.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:24 PM CST reply actions  

But wait, I am.

Hopefully, Marcus can figure stuff out, and learn how to box-out sometime today. If we box-out, and make shots, we’re good. They play tough, physical defense, but it isn’t anything we can’t handle.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

uuuugggghhh...

this is going to be stressful

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:25 PM CST reply actions  

Cole looks pretty average so far today...

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:28 PM CST reply actions  

at least offensively

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

I don’t think he’s a big fan of a lot of contact. He struggled against Zona, too, where Jordan Hill was physical with him.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

pretty amazing considering...

he had to practice w/Jackson, Kaun and Arthur all last year…he should be comfortable with contact at this point.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Come on Sherron

that was an awful pass. Then, you hurt yourself.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:29 PM CST reply actions  

Collins needs to get under control...

then maybe he won’t ram his nose into people

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:29 PM CST reply actions  

offense just looks bad since right before the first TV

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:31 PM CST reply actions  

I know he was fouled

but Cole has to make that shot on the black. Use the backboard or dunk the ball.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:33 PM CST reply actions  

+1

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Again...great position by Cole...

drew the contact, but just can’t finish…

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:33 PM CST reply actions  

+1

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

and Cole's yip...

earns him 1 more crack to make a free throw

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:34 PM CST reply actions  

Dangerous territory right now.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:37 PM CST reply actions  

Yikes.

they are knocking down all of their shots, and we can’t get an open one to even take. Michigan State is easily the best defensive team we’ve played all year.

Still, we are playing absolutely terrible, and yet we are still only down 8. We’re not out of this one yet.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:38 PM CST reply actions  

Our offense

has been brutal. Cole’s had some decent shots, but he’s missed them. I’m not sure we’ve had a decent look in the last 10 minutes.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

not out of it...

but trending toward everything we couldn’t do and still expect to win

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Guess we'll see what....

our team is made of

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:41 PM CST reply actions  

shocking

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

There is just absolutely NO...

offense, no one wants to make a play, a lot of standing and waiting and then a whole lot of nothing…Kleinman Sighting

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:42 PM CST reply actions  

Self is not happy about something...

that’s what a Kleinman appearance means

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

The Morris boys

have to be working their way into the doghouse.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

They actually own a fairly extensive Time-share...

at the doghouse.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

"Yes Finally"

the announcer stole my words

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:44 PM CST reply actions  

Geez.

How many turnovers do we have?

This is terrible.

Appleton and Quintrell in, now.

Self is quite pissed off, right now.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:46 PM CST reply actions  

Turnovers

do not surprise me with this group.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd like to see 2 things...

first Sherron stop forcing things…

second…manage to get this to around 8 by halftime…

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:46 PM CST reply actions  

WTF!!!

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:47 PM CST reply actions  

this is unbearable

i think we’re all seeing just how terrible a defensive team tennessee was

by Danny Satan on Jan 10, 2009 12:47 PM CST reply actions  

oh my god!!!!

it’s Danny Satan…we wondered if you would come back

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

in all seriousness...glad to have ya...

your welcome anytime…we weren’t sure if you were in fact a KU fan or not after your last appearance

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

what??...you mean we have offense... :D

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Yikes.

Walton usually pretty much sucks on offense, and yet he is torching us.

And we can’t make three straight shots at a layup.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:47 PM CST reply actions  

Did anyone catch what Self said there..

the ref was talking about his injury…and Self said “just put his ass in a chair at half court”

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:51 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah.

Self is incredibly pissed off right now. I don’t think he is in the mood to laugh about a ref’s injury. He sounded almost serious, or like angry at the ref for getting hurt.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah I would agree...

not sure he was joking too much with that one.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

OK, here is our chance to go on a little mini-run.

They are starting to actually miss shots. Nice fast-break bucket by Sherron, now we just need to make some shots on our end.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 12:56 PM CST reply actions  

that's been much

harder than it should be today.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Yikes.

Sherron is forcing something just about every time down.

And Tyshawn looks lost.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:00 PM CST reply actions  

I don't even know what to say...

I feel like we’ve really played ourselves out of this one so far, more than MSU beating us this bad…

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:00 PM CST reply actions  

Down 19 now

that’s what happens when you don’t score.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

the good news is...

by the time these guys career are all said and done…Self will either make them tough…or make them quit

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Seeing Izzo

“wired for sound” makes me wonder what percentage of conversation they can use. I know Izzo is pretty intense, but don’t know how colorful his language is.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:00 PM CST reply actions  

I can tell you this much...

Self could never be wired for sound…he has mastered the art of stringing together words that you didn’t know were bad…but are

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

And I'd imagine

he will use that ability at halftime.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

and as you can tell

this game has already driven me to alcohol

by Danny Satan on Jan 10, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess we should have all anticipated a year like this...

but it doesn’t make it any easier…drinking however does…

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow.

Michigan State has made just about every single shot, and we can’t buy a bucket.

Seriously, though, what is the upside the rest of the game? Just try to get it close?

We aren’t handling the tight defense very well. I don’t think it is the crowd; the Zona crowd was louder, and I’ve been terribly unimpressed with the Izzone, or whatever it’s called.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:04 PM CST reply actions  

The goal needs to be...

to show some intestinal fortitude…this team needs to be tougher mentally and physically and it needs to start in the 2nd half. If they can do that and come away feeling good about the effort then maybe there is a positive to take into conference play. If we get run out of the building…I’m a little worried about nearly any road game from here on out.

Big 12 fans are going to be foaming at the mouth this year at an opportunity to “beat Kansas.” This team needs to show it has some fight in them on the road.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

well put

i want the morris bros to start thrashing people too

by Danny Satan on Jan 10, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

unfortunately Markieff doesn't thrash...

he pokes and picks up cheap fouls…he needs Old Spice Swagger like LL Cool J

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Just turned to KSU/OU

and Bramlage sounds pretty loud. No matter your feelings for K-State, them being good is a great thing for the Big 12 and KU.

(as long as they don’t end up on probation)

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:04 PM CST reply actions  

+1.

Agree entirely. Maybe I’m a bad person for this, but I kind of what the North teams to do well this year. And this includes Kansas State and Mizzou.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

K-State I can handle...

Mizzou…sorry, I would be ok if they fell off the earth

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed on Mizzou.

I’ve never liked them and Chase Daniel just made it worse. They can take their visor elsewhere for all I care. Although it’s always fun kicking their ass.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

My Hatred began in basketball with...

Derek Grimm and Jason Sutherland…punks

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

K-State also plays like

I want KU to play on defense.

That’s an honest statement, how sad is that?

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

NU up early 7-0 on MU

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:08 PM CST reply actions  

He just threw a chair through my window...

In Denver

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

The high altitude

let it travel farther though. It was aimed at your front yard.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow.

I just flipped over to ESPN for the end of Nova-Ville.

Wow. Just, wow. After a couple of back-and-forth possessions, Louisville made a shot with 8 seconds left to take the lead, 61-60. Villanova gets a breakaway on the in-bounds play, though, and gets fouled with 4.7. The guy misses both free throws, but the rebound is knocked out of bounds by Louisville. Villanova then gets the ball under the basket, and gets a layup. But he misses. Then they get a put-back opportunity; but he misses that, too.

Louisvlle wins.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:15 PM CST reply actions  

so what is an acceptable margin for everyone...

I say get it within 8 or so by the end and I’ll feel good…that wasn’t a good start though

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:19 PM CST reply actions  

I'll take 15

as acceptable. Within 10 at some point.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

uh oh...a pic...

and maybe 8 is a little too optimistic on my part

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

going to have to find something else. It’s tough to find a decent one to work when they are this small.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

And, 4 on Markief.

Yikes. Dude just can’t stay out of foul trouble.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

he's going to develop a bad reputation...and as a freshman it's hard to shake those things.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

He's going to get to the point

where Self should just let him foul out in the first 5 minutes.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

nice start...of course we had a good start in the first half too

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

I didn't realize Wake was #4

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

Hell

I didn’t realize Pitt was #1 until about Thursday.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

dejuan blair

might be the biggest 6’7’’ player i’ve ever seen

by Danny Satan on Jan 10, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

he's a beast

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

the joys of the non-conference season

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

No, they are quite good.

They beat Baylor in the 76 Classic out here in Anaheim, and beat BYU in Provo. BYU had like a 56 game home-court winning streak, too.

Probably not #4 in the country good, but they take on North Carolina tomorrow night. Should be a fantastic game.

And with it being in Winston-Salem, I’ll take the Demon Deacons.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

good to know...

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I like it.

So far, we’ve played pretty well. They’re still getting some open shots, but they are (finally) not knocking them down and we are doing a lot better at blocking out. On offense, it’s the Sherron show, but I can’t say I mind it. We haven’t got much of anything done all day, so we might as well try him out.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:25 PM CST reply actions  

I can handle it so far...

too bad Travis couldn’t flush that one..

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

one positive to take so far...

is that Sherron has been a true leader… as bad as they’ve played and as dismal as it’s looked, his body language and just his general demeanor has been very upbeat and determined

by Danny Satan on Jan 10, 2009 1:27 PM CST reply actions  

+1.

Early on, that wasn’t always there. He has developed plenty of trust in his teammates, though, which is nice. Definitely a good sign for the rest of the season.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

OT: but Sounds like we are going to find out the KU defensive line coach today...

and it sounds like it’s going to be a good hire

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

just as in the 1st half the TV timeout spells doom

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:31 PM CST reply actions  

Please!!! get it to single digits...that would be a victory in itself

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

Sherron is fired up...

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:34 PM CST reply actions  

Come on, Sherron.

It’s fine to drive, but you had Tyrel wide, wide open. Come on.

It’s fine to try and take everything on your back, I suppose, but don’t do it all on yourself. Still trust your teammates.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:35 PM CST reply actions  

+1

Collins at his best when he can penetrate and kick it out to Reed or Morningstar for open shots.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree but...

I think there is some responsibility on Reed and Morningstars part to position themselves for the shot…there have been a lot of opportunities today absolutely…but they also do a fair amount of standing around.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

well...I am becoming less hopeful of single digits...

it’s taking a ton of energy to chip away at this thing and they keep hitting shots that are really demoralizing..

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:37 PM CST reply actions  

OK, that's 7 fouls on Michigan State.

And they’re still fouling at a ridiculous pace. If we make our free throws, we could get it close.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

score points while the clock is stopped...i'll take it.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Got to hit those...

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:42 PM CST reply actions  

What?

Was that really a foul? I mean, seriously?

HIghtower is terrible. We’ve gotten some calls too, but seriously. It’s going to turn in to a free throw shooting contest at about the 10-minute mark.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:43 PM CST reply actions  

it just ain't happenin today, too young, too soft and not ready for this type of challenge yet.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:43 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed.

We just aren’t ready yet for this kind of physical, rough-and-tumble team.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess that's life in the one and done NCAA...

if you win a championship, you’ve assembled enough NBA ready talent to do so and you can expect an exodus. Look at us, also Florida and OSU the year before…you win, guys are successful and they move on.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

fouled out?? good god

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:44 PM CST reply actions  

He must be boys with

Markieff. Trying to attract Self’s attention and take it away from Markieff.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:46 PM CST reply actions  

Oh holy sh**

that was an awful foul call on Morris under the basket by Hightower.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:51 PM CST reply actions  

Marcus just got...

Hightowered!!

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:51 PM CST reply actions  

Clark Kellogg has been pretty good today on the broadcast today.

Too bad Fox couldn’t find anybody decent for the bowl games. That was awful listening to those clowns in the biggest games of the year.

by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2009 1:54 PM CST reply actions  

You mean the 4 hour Tebowner

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Very similar to

Kornheiser on Favre this year on MNF.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't recall the announcer's name but I heard...

he is still sitting in the stadium…Talking about Tebow’s greatness…he just can’t stop, some sort of exorcism might be needed.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty sad. Tebow seems like a good guy, but;

The coronation of the next Pope kind off stuff really gets sickening.

by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah it's doing him more harm than good...

and it’s shocking that he and the announcers can’t figure it out…the act has gotten pretty old.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I do credit Self

for scheduling this game and Tennessee.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 1:54 PM CST reply actions  

absolutely...just wish we had the team we had last year...would have been a lot of fun today...

we get MSU at home next year don’t we?

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

This game sucks.

Not even because of the score, just because of the incredible propensity of fouls.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:00 PM CST reply actions  

Thank everyone's favorite ref...Ed Hightower

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

makes this pill...very easy to swallow...

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

One thing I think we as Kansas fans are fortunate in is that...

with our recent success in both Basketball and Football and the clear abilities of our coaches, we have learned to trust in the process and the programs ability to put us in a position to be successful. Even when that means taking a step back to move forward sometimes.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

KU has 2 great coaches.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

And 1.

Yikes. Tyrel is 0-2 from the FT line today. He is usually money, money, money.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:04 PM CST reply actions  

Single Digits???? Please!!!

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:06 PM CST reply actions  

either way,

after today KU will still be on a very manageable road to 20 wins and likely a top-8 seed in the tourney. for a rebuilding year, that’s nothing to frown upon

by Danny Satan on Jan 10, 2009 2:06 PM CST reply actions  

No I'll take it...

but I hope we aren’t in that 8 seed range…not interested in a 1 seed 2nd round.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah I know...

and I just mean I would prefer a 6 or 7…for the sake of avoiding a #1

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

and I could concievably get my 8 point deficit...

that would be a respectable rally

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Big 12 update...

K-State giving OU a game only down 3 15 to go in the 2nd half…

NU up 36 to 19 on Misery

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:09 PM CST reply actions  

good

Hate Mizzou and like Doc Sadler.

Update: KSU down 7 now

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree...

not sure what it is about him but I’ve always like Doc…

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Same here.

Not really sure why, but I have always loved the Doc. Think he is going to be a really good coach.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I would much rather Nebraska win these kind of games against Mizzou.

I just want to root for Mizzou against, like, OU and Texas and Baylor. I want a shot to win the Big 12 this year, and we will need some help if we’re going to do anything.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

This game isn't quite over yet.

Tyrel Reed has had a really good second half; I bet he is our third leading scorer after the two big names (Cole and Sherron).

If we get a stop-or-two and can make a shot-or-two on the other side of the floor, we are right back in it.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:10 PM CST reply actions  

+1.

But, whatever. It is Hightower, after all.

And I think he feels the need to call twice as many fouls, because there are only two refs out there.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Way to keep battling...

never know what can happen at this point, but I’m pretty pumped at the fight some of these guys are showing…

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:12 PM CST reply actions  

In other news, UMASS just got a big win.

Beat Dayton, who was previously 14-1.

Makes our loss look just a little bit better.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:14 PM CST reply actions  

all our losses have looked better after the fact accept Arizona...

they fell of a little bit

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

should have been except

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate it when I do that.

I know someone will read it and automatically think I’m a moron. I may be a moron, but I try to make people work hard to figure that out.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

well yeah....

that was a pretty pathetic showing

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

we should never lose in KC...

unless it’s deep in the tourney or deep in the Big 12 tourney…that’s a home game no questions asked.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

damn...that could have been HUGE

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:15 PM CST reply actions  

Crap.

The Sherron three was a fine idea. That would have gotten it down to six, and would have been gigantic. Instead, the Spartans get a frickin’ three.

Ah, well, we still aren’t out of it.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:17 PM CST reply actions  

So...

Offense was worse than I had expected. Fought hard at the end, don’t see much else to be happy about. Get the Big 12 show started.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 2:21 PM CST reply actions  

only thing I'll take away was...

we didn’t quit and got some experience…other than that you’re right, we need to be tougher and our offense has to find something earlier

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Not a terrible showing in the second half. Definitely some learning experiences to be had, and hopefully we are a better team because of it.

In any case, I still think we could win plenty of the Big 12 games. 11, max?

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

road games are going to be where it's decided....

how well does this team play on the road???

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm still not sure if we know.

Michigan State is just better than us. I’m not sure if this would have been different in Lawrence.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Eh.

I think we would have played a lot better in Lawrence. Probably still have lost, but it wouldn’t have been as depressing.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Not much from Taylor today

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:24 PM CST reply actions  

Seriously.

I have not been that impressed with TyTay these past 5 games-or-so.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

What is

Mich St’s free throw % this game?

by labbadabba on Jan 10, 2009 2:25 PM CST reply actions  

he returns...

to answer your question though…no idea, better than ours though

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

74%

but it sure doesn’t feel like it – we’re shooting 60%

by labbadabba on Jan 10, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

WAY too many fouls called in this game.

We’re at like 17 each this second half. Ridiculous.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:26 PM CST reply actions  

Hightower

is my LEAST favorite ref. He calls everything off the ball. He has the biggest ego of any ref out there. He makes every effort to influence the game as a ref. If you recall, he reffed the KU/Mizzou game and the National Championship game

by labbadabba on Jan 10, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah I was pretty certain we wouldn't win the NC game..

when I saw he was officiating.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn...

our insistence on fouling is going to blow the opportunity to have this within a respectable score

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:26 PM CST reply actions  

This is probably earlier in the thread

but what do you think about Little? Redshirt or no? I think he gets the redshirt

by labbadabba on Jan 10, 2009 2:29 PM CST reply actions  

He might, but...

I think most of us were in agreement that we’d rather he not…probably more useful to the team now rather than later

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

But he's kinda sucky

I mean – he’s better than me but I just seem’s like he’s too slow on everything. I don’t know if that’s his knee or that he’s playing with a freaking cast but I just seems he’s always out of position and looks general lost out there.

by labbadabba on Jan 10, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Part of the reason I don't want a redshirt for him...

no reason to tie up a scholly if he isn’t going to pan out…I’m not a huge fan of JUCO bball players but sometimes you have to have em.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn Cole...

can’t even make the dunk after the whistle

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:29 PM CST reply actions  

That's the

third time a ball hit off the top of the backboard and there is no call……

by labbadabba on Jan 10, 2009 2:29 PM CST reply actions  

Morningstar

comes up with a hustle basket – where has THAT been all game?

by labbadabba on Jan 10, 2009 2:31 PM CST reply actions  

alright gentlemen

gotta get ready and go open the bar… bad game, good discussion though

by Danny Satan on Jan 10, 2009 2:33 PM CST reply actions  

Had a good laugh when he joined in...

and he has confirmed he is a KU fan, lives in Chicago and looking for some good discussion about the hawks…

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Well as a recap...

the drive for 4000 came up short again but that’s ok…surpassed 300 for the second time and again really appreciate everyone coming out…

RockChalk, Hunter, Warden, Labbadabba (better late than never), and of course who could forget Danny Satan…agree with you on that Bad game good conversation…

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:33 PM CST reply actions  

Would have joined up earlier

but we had a guest over at the apt. I had to cash in some chips just to be able to watch the game on the HDTV in the living room. I have to pick and choose my battles with my wife. I will always choose to battle when it comes to KU.

by labbadabba on Jan 10, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

no worries...

I can promise I won’t be at every thread, but whoever is around is welcome and can carry the torch.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, not the best performance in the world by our Jayhawks.

But not the worst, either. We played pretty well in the second half, and if Collins’ three would have gone down to get it to 6, it would have been an entirely different game.

In any case, there are definitely some learning opportunities that we can take from this game. And another solid outing from the RCT community. We got more than 300 comments in, which is always nice.

Maybe we can get 4000 if we get a night slot for the NCAAs. In any case, thanks to everyone who showed up. It was nice.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:34 PM CST reply actions  

The second half

was encouraging – but the 1st half was one of my most excruciating halfs of ball I’ve seen as a Kansas fan

by labbadabba on Jan 10, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry I didn't jumpin

But my TV isn’t in the same room, and I was glued to it. I’ll be more active when I can’t watch. :)

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jan 10, 2009 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

well the good news is...

a good chunk of the remaining games will be nationally televised so while we may miss out on your thoughts around here…you won’t have to miss watching the Jayhawks too often.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the thread and posts Rockchalk & Denver.

I think Mr. Satan has inspired as a bit. Now I just need a cup like Warden’s holding full of beer to forget this one.

by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2009 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

I'll stick around for the rest of the Big 12 games to finish.

Right now, NU is winning 46-42 against Mizzou with 6:44 left. Oklahoma is up 16 against KSU with under 4 left. Baylor is up 7 with 3:30 left.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:39 PM CST reply actions  

could be close

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

wow Mizzou rallied...

OU finally took control and as far as Baylor that’s about what I would have expected so far.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:40 PM CST reply actions  

Another bucket by Baylor (layup by Jerrells)

and then a TTU charge pretty much ends it.

It ain’t all over yet, but I bet Baylor wins. And now they just got an alley-oop.

Game over.

Baylor looks really dangerous. I would bet a lot of money they beat us when we head down there. Hopefully (and probably, really, given our early conference schedule) it will be our first conference loss, though.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:41 PM CST reply actions  

yeah Baylor was going to be a tough one for us this year...

what’s worse is Big 12 fans are going to be drooling at the chance to beat us, even though we are in a down year.

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Labbadabba...

what does that mean???

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:41 PM CST reply actions  

I was searching for an e-mail handle

about 10 years ago. I tried to come up with something memorable, so I went with body parts – like elbow, or knee, or shinbone, etc – they were all taken. In a moment of exasperation I simply uttered, labbadabba. I tried it and it worked. Its been my handle ever since. But as far its meaning, sorry to let you down there…

by labbadabba on Jan 10, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Mizzou still down 3

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:43 PM CST reply actions  

In other action...

Duke is destroying Florida State. Seton Hall is only down three @ Notre Dame. A Notre Dame loss would give us the longest homecourt winning streak, after BYU losing a week ago and Tennessee losing to Gonzaga Wednesday night.

The Big East is crazy good; Seton Hall is probably like the 11th best team in the conference, yet they are talented enough to potentially win on the road against a Top 10 team.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:44 PM CST reply actions  

One point game in Lincoln.

Moving screen called on Mizzou. Yikes, they’re calling that a bunch this season.

5 minutes to go.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:45 PM CST reply actions  

NU-MU is on ESPN2, by the way.

In case anyone didn’t know and wants to watch…

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

Its not on HD

what’s up with that? You can bet if this were and ACC game it would be in HD. Stupid ESPN

by labbadabba on Jan 10, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

OT: Bill Miller...

named the new D-Line coach at Kansas…

Linebackers coach at Louisville, strong connections to Kansas and Oklahoma areas

profile...

I like it…

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:48 PM CST reply actions  

Also...

Linebackers coach at Florida a few years, looks like he might have some recruiting connections down that way..

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

looks like he has some extensive experience as..

a d-coordinator as well and was recently named to that spot at Louisville

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

This is a big game for the Big 12 North.

Really, there are no standout teams. K-State, NU and MU all appear to be decent. And while we are still likely the Big 12 North favorite, we haven’t done anything to really set that in stone, yet. So, if Mizzou could win IN Lincoln, that could go a long way in the North standings.

The North teams are going to have to hold serve at home, particularly against other North foes. And considering MU didn’t score the first 5 minutes of the game, this is a bonus game for the Tigers.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:50 PM CST reply actions  

road wins will be tough to come by as balanced as the north looks minus CU

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Baylor wins at home against Tech.

Oklahoma wins on the road in convincing fashion against K-State.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:53 PM CST reply actions  

so far so good w/my picks...

really hoping the Huskers hang on

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

NU MU Tied

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:55 PM CST reply actions  

Big possession coming up for Doc Sadler and the Huskers

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:56 PM CST reply actions  

Yep.

A basket would go a long way.

Missouri has had plenty of chances late to make a big bucket, and every time they’ve failed. Well, except the long two Tiller just hit. That was the one exception.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Great rebounding there by Missouri.

Wow. That’s a killer.

That could cost them the game, right there.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 2:59 PM CST reply actions  

Have I mentioned I hate Missouri

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 2:59 PM CST reply actions  

I always thought it was normal...

but thanks for the assurance

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Notre Dame pulling away. They're gonna win.

And Florida State is coming back, down only 11 now. They were down like 25 just 10 minutes ago.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 3:00 PM CST reply actions  

uh oh

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:01 PM CST reply actions  

Huskers got this one

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:02 PM CST reply actions  

Wow.

Missouri got an oustanding shot at a three. Not really sure why the entire Nebraska defense collapsed in when they needed a three to tie. Just stupid basketball, right there.

But Mizzou misses the three, and all is well. Except the whiners think that legal screens aren’t allowed. Holy hell, was that a hard screen. All legal, though.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 3:03 PM CST reply actions  

for a football school...

you’d think they would be ok w/a little contact…

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess your right...

Nebraska is probably a baseball school or something at this point.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

was that a grizzly bear in a husker cheerleading outfit

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:04 PM CST reply actions  

you mean additonal therapy besides the fact that...

they will grow up in a world where Husker football is not King

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I want another destruction of NU in Lawrence next year....

and I hope Pelini chokes on his gum

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow. Indiana is just absolutely terrible.

Losing by 25 at HALFTIME to Illinois.

Holy hell.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 3:10 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah

Sampson f’d them over bad.

by Warden11 on Jan 10, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

saw Sampson wandering around Denver a few weeks back...

not sure why, maybe he’s a street performer

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks again for your work Rockchalk & Denver.

I am signing off to become one with the couch as the playoffs come on. Have a good weekend.

by hunter s. royal on Jan 10, 2009 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

Sounds good.

I’m going to do something similar. A great day for sports, all around, despite the disappointing showing from the Jayhawks today.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I think I'm out too....

time for some football…when you all get a chance though…Wrigleyrocker threw up a fanpost that could make for some good discussion at somepoint

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

well at this point we have to, don't we?

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Playoff predictions anyone?

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:17 PM CST reply actions  

I've got Baltimore and Carolina today.

And Pittsburgh and Philly tomorrow.

I think Philly is the hottest team right now, and has a reasonable shot to win it all a la the New York Giants last year.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm with you on the other four...

but I’m taking the Giants…the one thing I’ll be interested to see is how their defensive gameplan goes considering the Scott Spanuola world tour has been going on ever since the end of the regular season

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm

I’ll take Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Who’s even playing in the NFC? I’ll take Giants and Cardinals, the only ones I know that are playing.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jan 10, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Tennessee will come out arrogant and unprepared, and Baltimore will hit them in the mouth. Pittsburgh because SD is really weak. Take away the run, which is the Steelers’ forte, and you beat the Chargers.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jan 10, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

The thing about Tennessee is...

I’m not sure if they’ll come out arrogant or fired up since the entire country seems to be picking against them.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I can have hope can't I?

Anyway, I wouldn’t be upset if SD won, because it’d show that the AFC West isn’t that awful. And it’d give Norv another opportunity at a mega choke.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jan 10, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

hey you could still be right...

they could come out arrogant, they’ve got some personalities on defense

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

+1.

Baltimore’s D is ridiculous, and Kerry Collins is going to choke. Big time.

Pittsburgh is a much better team than San Diego, and they can contain Sproles. Without a running game, Rivers forces throws, which leads to turnovers, which leads to losses. Pitt by 2 TDs, even if Big Ben doesn’t play.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I would be ok w/Kurt Warner...

winning another Superbowl…as long as I don’t have to hear about him working at HyVee as a grocery bagger again.

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

He's why I want them to win

He just seems like a guy you can’t really root against.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jan 10, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah he's a pretty good guy...

I lived near St. Louis when he won it there

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I want the Eagles to win, actually. Have loved Donovan since he came out of college.

I wouldn’t mind it if the Panthers, Cardinals or Ravens won it all, though. Anyone else and I’m pissed.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

+1..

to Donovan getting one before he’s done…guy takes a lot of heat

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

396...

Let’s hit the magic 4-oh-oh before the Playoff game starts. Because after that, I’m out.

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 3:26 PM CST reply actions  

me too...(cheap attempt at raising the number by me)

Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.

by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

#400...peace, I'm out

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by Owen Kemp on Jan 10, 2009 3:27 PM CST reply actions  

So am I.

Again, thanks goes to all of you for reaching 300 in actual game time, and 400 including some post game discussions.

ROCK CHALK!

by rockchalk on Jan 10, 2009 3:28 PM CST reply actions  

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