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Departing Talent Isn't Necessarily a Bad Thing

All College Football programs have problems of some sort. It is inevitable. Injuries, skirmishes with law enforcement and general sucktitude have a way of hampering each-and-every athletic team, with College Football at the top of the list. Kansas has suffered from all of the above problems, although it has been a long, long time since Kansas has suffered from the 'big-boy' problem: fights over playing time.

Now, to call it a problem is shining it in the most negative light possible. Often, it simply means that you have too much talent on your team (if there is such a thing) and thus, more than one person per position more-than-deserves to start. Still, when these pristine programs are able to recruit a hundred bajillion ESPN 150, Rivals 5-STAR prospects a season, their problems (this side of behavioral) reside solely in the lack of playing time category.

And as quoted by Aqib Talib in one of the better Awards Show Interviews in the history of my viewing life, Kansas has used this "problem" to recruit against some of the better programs in college football. As Talib so eloquently put it (to some effect, that isn't verbatim):

"If you go to LSU, you've gotta sit down for a minute. You go to Ohio State, you've gotta sit down for a minute. If you go to a school like Kansas, you can play right away."

 

When you lined up all of the advantages pre-2007, the only pro in the Kansas/generic-BCS-conferece-fodder category was the playing time section. The only reason, if given the opportunity, to choose a pre-2007 Kansas team over a more tradition-laden, game-winning program such as Aqib Talib's example of LSU would be to get on the field earlier. That is why Talib chose us, although he certainly didn't select us over LSU or other schools of that ilk (at the time of his commitment, IIRC, he only had received a scholarship from Wyoming).

And now, with the recent playing-time-related departures of RBs Donte Bean and Carmon Boyd-Anderson, we are reaching a plateau that has never before been reached at the University of Kansas. Well, that's not exactly true. In fact, whenever I think of an athlete transferring, I think of one man: Bill Self.

Bill Self has had more transfers leave his program in his short, five-year stay at the University of Kansas than Roy Williams had in his entire fourteen-year career. Why? Because Self recruits as much talent as he can get his hands on, piling up the nationally-acclaimed athletes on the bench and letting the best players play. Roy, on the other hand, was more the good-ol-boy who gave 'deserving' over-achievers like C.B. McGrath, Jerrod Haase, Bret Ballard, T.J. Watley, Jeff Boschee and T.J. Pugh way more playing time than they deserved. And so, rarely did a player ever leave Roy's programs. Because more often than not, the players got more PT than they deserved; not less.

The same has happened in our football program for almost its entire existence. We have had 3-STAR prospects come in and instantly been handed a starting gig and told not to screw it up. Now, the 3-STAR Donte Bean, who was recruited heavily by Purdue and Indiana amongst other WAC, MWC and MAC-type programs, is transferring because he was buried way on the depth chart. I'm talking 5th. And Carmon Boyd-Anderson, a back good enough to creep up to #3 at the beginning of last season and see some garbage time in the non-conference games, yet his low place on the depth chart (Angus Quigley and the position-switch of Rell Lewis to RB had him fighting for 4th on the depth chart) has also led him to transfer.

Mark Mangino is more Bill Self than Roy Williams; recruit, recruit, recruit and then let the best players play. And because of that, we are in (arguably) the best place in Kansas football history.

Bring on those problems!

ROCK CHALK!

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Couldn't agree more...

although it probably does create a greater urgency for another RB in the upcoming recruiting class besides Sands.

by Denverjhawk on Aug 13, 2008 9:52 AM CDT   0 recs

Agree.

Our two top guys right now are Brandon Wegher and Toben Opurum. I will be doing some recruiting stuff soon, and they will be talked about then…

Wegher is an Iowa kid who Iowa wants, meaning most are pegging him as a Hawkeye. He is more of a quick RB, more Jake Sharp than Jocques Crawford.

Opurum is being recruited by LSU (and potentially others) as a FB, and would be huge for a RB. Still, he is even quicker than Brandon McAnderson and would be like B-MAC 2.0.

by rockchalk on Aug 13, 2008 1:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm still surprised though...

I definitely agree with what you’re saying. However, I’m surprised that both of them decided to leave. I’m not saying Rell Lewis won’t be great; he may. But Jake and Jocques are both juniors, so CBA and Bean are already been a year younger, plus they likely would have been allowed to redshirt this year, barring injury.

Unless they’re just in such a big hurry to play it just strikes me as odd that they wouldn’t bide their time a bit and then still have two years after Sharp and Crawford are gone?

by hiphopopotamus on Aug 13, 2008 3:49 PM CDT   0 recs

I agree.

Although who knows the talent Mangino is bring in. Sands looks like a big-time small back, if that makes any sense. I’ve seen people compare him to Darren Sproles. And the other RBs we are in on are much higher acclaimed coming out of HS than either CBA or Bean was. So, maybe they saw the writing on the wall and instead of waiting around and hoping for the best, they decided just to get out now.

Also, maybe they really are having some ‘personal issues’, like problems with classes or something, and that is why they are transferring. Who knows.

by rockchalk on Aug 13, 2008 8:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Same story with baseball

Coach Price told me that one of his best recruiting tools is his ability to tell sought after prospects that if they come to KU they will play their freshman year, something they will not hear from Top-25 programs. If I remember correctly this is what he said helped him convince Tony Thompson and Jimmy Waters to come to KU last season. Both of these guys were recruited by other programs. Tony was an everyday player all of last year and Jimmy would have been had he not gotten off to such a slow start.

Hopefully the baseball team will reach the point of having more playing time battles in the next few seasons. The only real battle last year for playing time was between Casey Larson and Nick Faunce in CF. That was more a battle because neither player fully stood out as superior.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Aug 13, 2008 8:56 PM CDT   0 recs

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